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Kesselring: DNP If they can start getting some return there, the deal really looks that much better.

I will believe it as soon as Terry Pegula sits in front of a podium and says "Jerry Forton and Kevyn Adams no longer have any job in any capacity with the Bills, Sabres, Harbor Center, etc. Him nor Adams are on my payroll in any capacity."

Right, if Lindy really wants that role, Dunne is a better fit. But do you keep him up over a Rosen or Östlund? edit: Hey @SDS, if we are going to have that filter on Östlund, how about one to put the accent on the "e" in Rosen?

JJ Peterka: 6g, 7a, 13pts, +1 in 19games Josh Doan: 5g, 7a, 12pts, -4 in 19games

Right, and people who think they have all/most of the answers are generally the ones who make the worst hiring decisions. I have found that people who have an honest inventory of their own strengths/weaknesses generally do a better job solving problems than those that don't. Terry considers himself a "hockey man". I would much rather any organization (professional sports or otherwise) be run by somebody who is wildly successful in a different industry to come in and go "holy shnykies, I don't know anything about this, let me assemble a group of qualified people who do".

Östlund is a pure centre. Kulich is the one that should move to the wing when he returns. Tage Norris McLeod Östlund Kozak is a very good Centre spine.

Some things I didn't mention after watching the Oilers game: One of the best games of the season, up there with the Florida game. Ellis - keep riding him. There is no reason not too. Right now he is playing the best of the 3. I like they way he comes out and challenges the shooter. He talks about anticipation, he made several big timely saves. Oilers - they did look tired or lazy or something. They are in the middle of a 7 game road trip. Draisaitl seemed to be very pissed at Tage at the end of the game but he never came out for the final shifts. Anyone know what happened? Home games - it is important that the Sabres keep winning and get the home crowd back. They are still last in the conference and they need a big winning streak as they have to pass 8 teams just to get to the last WC spot . They must avoid another Blues like performance against the Flames on Wednesday.

According to this it was not mutual but I am unclear on what that means. Makes it sound like the Sabres didnt have interest but the player expected to get an offer. https://sabrenoise.com/3-prospects-the-sabres-no-longer-have-rights-to-01jwvtenp7pw "This one was a confusing one for the Sabres as they have a 22-year-old center, with almost three years of professional hockey experience, who they didn’t want to bring over to the AHL or ECHL, as this was not a mutual parting of ways."

I noticed that on the Amerks roster they list Dunne as a center, and Östlund as a LW.

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I generally agree here, but I'd say to Power's credit there has been some steps forward this season. He is a little more willing to take the body and has definitely shown an increased willingness to block shots. I also like how Lindy is using his size and reach to clog passing lanes on the PK. He is still terrible 5 on 5 defensively where he is more easily caught out of position than on the PK. As to why we shouldn't keep both, Samuelsson is playing his way to being Dahlin long-term partner. However that leaves Power and Byram to anchor the 2nd and 3rd pairings. I don't see the Sabres wanting to pay 8+ a season for a 3rd pairing D long-term.

Spooner, you have your own Fire Adams thread.

Byram is playing better than Power IMO. Byram is faster and can log a lot of minutes. Even though he is smaller than Power he is much more fiesty. The illusion of Owen Power is still there though.

Yes, the league suggested Botterill; but the other finalist to replace Murray was Zito. It's no different than when the Bills were looking for a new coach and it came down to Ryan and McDermott; Pegula (at the suggestion of Brandon) chose Ryan. The parallel goes so far as to Zito sitll being available when Botterill was canned, just like McDermott was. Unfortunately, that's where the parallel ends. But still, he has options to rectify the current mistake, and one of them is already in the buidling.

I hear you, but Lindy has to know by now that he is not filling this role with Geertsen. Dunne actually plays and contributes.

Am I losing my mind or were there stories during the summer that Marjala chose not to sign?

Wait, didn't Beck get his 1st of the season last night? Given what we have seen from our forwards and callups what does our best lineup actually look like? The spine should be Tage, Norris, McLeod and Kozak The top wingers are Benson, Doan, Zucker and Tuch Who are the other 4? The choices are plentiful. Greenway, Malenstyn, Krebs, and Quinn are the guys who opened the season in the lineup. However Östlund has come on after a slow start (3g 2a in his last 7 games +2) and Rosen has been solid since he was recalled (3g 3a in 8 games -1). Krebs (5a in 19 games) and Quinn (3g 5a in 19 games) haven't out played the two kids. Don't forget limited utility Dunne and Geertsen are still hanging around. Knowing the Sabres they'll take the easy way out and demote Östlund and Rosen, but I'm not sure that's what is best for the team. Benson Tage Zucker Doan Norris Tuch Quinn McLeod Rosen Greenway Kozak Krebs (Malenstyn) I'd waive both Dunne and Geertsen.

If they get a bunch of returns, they’re going to have to though. They’ll need the roster spot. Geertsen goes and then they’ll need to cast off a goalie. Even after that, they’re still need one more spot if they suddenly have Norris, Zucker, and Benson. A player currently dressing will have to be sent back down. Dunne seems like the obvious choice, but I could see him handed the Geertsen role that Lindy clearly wants on the team.

IF they can find a partner that works for/with Byram (besides Dahlin), would expect LT getting an extension on him and trading Power when/if necessary would be the better play. And maybe now Timmons can be that guy; they played very well together yesterday but were absolute trash in Detroit together; didn't pay that close attention to the matchups they were getting but 1 game being home and the other being on the road say that matchups could've been a huge factor in that. If not, keep Power. Byram's highs have been better than Power's, but his lows have been even worse. And there's a bigger risk of getting bad Byram than getting bad Power IMHO because his play seems to be so partner dependent. Though with the cap going up as much as it will soon, and with Byram showing he ISN'T a 1 or a 2, not completely convinced they can't keep them both. Mrkta will be on an entry level contract for 3 years when he finally arrives; Muel is locked up for a while and being a defensive 1st guy won't likely be getting much of a raise. Timmons is what he is. The only wildcards salary wise are Kesselring and Byram himself but Byram keeps playing himself to lesser deals down the road. That could change, and hopefully they do find a guy he works with very well (again, besidee Dahlin) but hasn't so far.

What I see: Kozak is a 4C and he can be a true shut down center. Being defensively responsible is a natural part of his game. He is one that helps you protect a lead, seal a game, he takes opportunities away from the opponents. Krebs is more like a guy that can't make it as a 2/3C and that is willing to do the dirty work of a 4th line center or wing.

The opposite can be said too. Greenway doesn’t add anything that Malenstyn can’t do, but for cheaper. And he can play more than half the season.

Personally, I think his biggest value is as a trade chip, but the waiver eligibility doesn’t guarantee full time NHL play. He’s going to have to earn that time here or anywhere else and could very easily wind up as a journeyman bouncing around all over the place. … or he pulls the Pominville right now and claims his spot. I really have no idea what to expect here.

Lindy doesn't like to change the lineup if they're winning. I think this current roster sticks until they lose again.

Can we trade both? Half joking, half serious. Ras is the only D that we have seen that truly affects play. These two are higher priced, elite JAGs. If we can get a top 3 and another Defensive D man, I’d be open. If I had to keep one it’s Power, only bc the contract certainty. $8.25m will look like a bargain in a few.