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I agree with this part 100%, and it is also why I am so flabbergasted by your insistence upon strictly limiting who you are willing to move to get the team winning right away. Your understanding that losing is driving players wanting to leave, and players refusing to come here, is incongruent with your stance on refusing to move certain players to drive immediate improvement.

I'm happy if he's happy ☺️ I still have a skewed view of marriage in general on the whole, but that's not a discussion for this time or place. Can the regular season just start soon.

Back in the ‘70s there was a Rochester band called Buzzo’s Bandits. Was at the Penny Arcade one night and they had a heavy set lead singer who came out for the second set all wrapped up in tin foil and went into Iron Man. Hilarious.

I wonder what his relationship was with the other players, especially the veteran players like Zucker and Tuch? Did they try to counsel him on the importance of playing a more responsible defensive game? There was a game on TV in which Rob Ray commented on a play where the other team scored. The Sabres were stuck in the defensive zone with the opposition controlling the puck. Peterka was nowhere near the forward he was supposed to be covering. He was off wide along the sideboard when the player went to the net and put in a rebound shot. Rob Ray replayed that play a couple of time and pointedly noted that the scorer was his responsibility. I liked JJP and wanted him to stay a Sabre. And from what I read so did the GM. However, he was determined to get out, as have a number of our better players. It just seems that persistent losing can be dispiriting causing more players to want a change of scenery.

So we’re outraged that he got married? What on earth is going on in here right now? The offseason sucks.

I’d say Paranoid is top 10 rock song all time. Maybe best metal song ever. It’s certainly in the conversation.

I have a dramatically different take on the area hockey market. It is a fertile hockey market that has been laid to waste by an owner who has crushed its potential due to hideous incompetency. The fan base has steadily been shrinking because of his foolish stewardship for a generation. Fans who are unwilling to spend money on a lackluster team/product are the ones who are showing good judgment.

If you believe I’m a supporter of KA, you have grossly misread my posts about him. I’m almost as contemptuous of him as I am of the big boat owner.

they could push Pegula to sell the team ... personally I don't believe the Sabres in WNY are salvageable. i don't see how it can work. and I do not see another rich guy with WNY ties who will buy it. the franchise burned through Golisano and Pegula, I don't see who is next players don't want to be there. period. you can "Mario Williams" them and throw a pile of $$ at them, but that will get you 4 or 5 good players. then the money runs out.

I don’t mean to cause offence, although I probably should have anticipated that I might. I’m just calling it like I perceive it: Power and Thompson seem somewhat unusual relative to their peers — or at least relative to how I’ve generally perceived pro hockey players. Sociologically speaking, anyway. I haven’t. I’ll keep an eye out for it.

I don't think Norris will play more than half the season but maybe I'm just too pessimistic. Peterka on the other hand I think will have a great year as that Mammoth top 6 looks like a really solid group that should fit together nicely. You never know though. He could sit back and just enjoy his new contract.

Wouldn't Peterka also be part of that battle cry, yet now we have to count every one of his goals missing from the total? So you think Norris will perform about the same for the Sabres as he did last year?

McLeod and Zucker had great seasons to reach 106 combined points, but if Mitts had remained a Sabre at his scoring pace (.758 ppg would've gotten him to 60 points), he'd have made up the 7-point difference of Skinner's shortfall. Offensively, those two pairs were a push. (But McLeod and Zucker offer much more to the team overall. Though it could've been nice to have another non-rookie center in the lineup last year from the get-go.) Norris has outscored Cozens in points per game. That's good. But while Mitts/McLeod stay healthy and ppg could be reliable, with Norris it's not a useful measure. Because of his health, Norris has never outscored Cozens. His average season is well below Cozens' offensive output and his best season is 13 points shy of Cozens' high; even if you combine Norris' 8-game season with his best season it's shy of Cozens' 68-point campaign. It's why Ottawa wanted Cozens for the playoff push: he plays night-in and -out, despite his well-documented flaws. Kulich has not matched Olofsson… yet. Kulich has the potential to outdo anything Olofsson ever did (VO's shot, center, all-around game, 1st round talent) -- but last season he did not replace the offense. When Olofsson skates 14:00+/game as Kulich did last season, he's been a 40-point player. Kulich should get to .5 ppg this year, especially if he's going to skate with TNT or Tuch at 5-on-5, but last season he was .39 ppg and only 29 points.

Didn’t you watch American Primeval? You have the Mormons all wrong.

Huh? I’m unsure how to even compute this. Most hockey players are going to fall on the more conservative side of beliefs and are going to be more likely to have more traditional relationships since they’ll be the breadwinner 99.9% of the time and if they have children the mother will almost certainly stay at home. Why would that have any impact on the team? If they tend to have a more traditional relationship how is that a bad thing? As I said their playing career effectively pidgin-holes them into a more traditional role set up. Otherwise they can’t have children. And sorry if this might be controversial but if a baby is born; at very least one parent should be a primary caretaker for the child. Last I checked players don’t retire upon becoming fathers so there you go. Frankly there’s a reason traditional roles have been used for centuries; it works well. And it’s not as if the wife has a gun to her head to have babies and stay home 24/7. That “regressive” statement really gets my blood boiling. They like to make it sound like traditional roles requires a nigh 1930’s or earlier style of behavior and that it’s automatically a negative.

Yeah it was poor taste

Crazy Train will always be a sporting event staple that I know him from. He was the odd MTV guy by the time I was old enough to understand stuff but I’ve come to really like some his bigger hits like Mama, I’m coming home, Flying High again and Paranoid. (Iron Man and a few others are also great) Plus he seemed like an alright kind of guy.

i didn’t get it directly from them (i actually quite dislike them) — but their “reporting” on the silver on silver logo was everywhere.

Really? This is what you choose to put in a tribute thread the day after he dies? Wow. just wow. A favorite song of mine by 2 (now gone) legends of old school hard living rock and roll.

Totally agree. There was one thing on that Sabres embedded draft edition that struck me. Karmanos was the one who seemed very critical of everybody’s take on the first round pick, at least the clip that was shown. He seemed to have a vision of what should be and was actually holding his colleague’s feet to the fire, despite the fact that he’s essentially the one heading up the farm team. Moreover, his moves for Rochester are superior in team building. The current structure is baffling to say the least.

A legend. Both Sabbath and his solo career were a highlight he participated in of my music wheelhouse as a kid to adult time. RIP Ozzy

Well there's nothing and no one that makes you say they are perfect as is. Not the management, not the coaches, not the players. We have no character, no identity, no future. It is the most inept sports franchise in North America.

With such a credible name like Trainwreck Sports who would have thunk? 🤣

You sound like Adams. So much belief in Quinn. He hasn't shown that at all. He might do that, but he also might do next to nothing. Yes I would trade Dahlin if I could make the team better. I have no interest in trading Dahlin for the sake of trading but if I can get better I trade anybody. Nothing and no one on this team has shown themselves to be so brilliant they are a cornerstone. There's nothing to be a cornerstone of. Honestly, if I could, I'd trade the entire roster and start over like an expansion team. Teams are still looking to make moves. Many teams around the league are actually trying to win. I know, it's an odd concept Sabres fans aren't used to.