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ffs - were you studying anesthesiology?!

No, I disagree, stay in your seat. If it comes to you its yours. Karen shouldn't be expected to wage a battle in her seat area from some clown running through the stands to get a ball. Following the "rules" you state and its no wonder there was a confrontation. I think he knew he was wrong that's why he surrendered the ball.

We've done that for ages and then submitted the videos to Bob Saget, granted there were far less cameras around. But now we track them down and determine every single thing right down to their blood type. It's probably best to avoid public gatherings at this point, heaven forbid someone takes a picture and catches you mid-blink so it looks like you're sleeping during the national anthem. She probably is a miserable human being, but I don't care.

Yep. Everyone has their worst moments in life. None of us need them recorded and uploaded to the Internet for all to see. EDIT: Except the Flyers.

I wonder how much games like this really mean to the guys who have been in the system for a while. Those 4th line guys mentioned earlier are playing to catch attention. These “vets” have eyes set on a completely different finish line. Some might want to use that to question heart, but I can’t get to that point. These games are so small in the big picture.

The story is ancient at this point. But anyway, she’s a complete moron, but like you said, she shouldn’t have been subjected to the online Spanish Inquisition. Every single video these days, there’s this quick rush to figure out who the person is so we can shame them. Yet another example of why I hate the internet.

1. Ballpark rules. Who grabs the ball, gets the ball. That's it. There are no territorial limits. She should have been quicker if it was so close to her. 2. I agree that she should not have been subjected to social media exposure. She also shouldn't have been so "country" but without the O and R about the whole situation. 3. Wasn't this like two weeks ago?

I suspect he has virtual hell coming for him from the mother of those kids....

"Mom, did you really mean to buy two can openers for our emergency kit?"

Kid projects to be a minor leaguer this season and peak as a Ryan McLeod. He played 3 games, got one goal, was his team’s most noticeable forward. 🤷

Imho, the only hope for a shift is for people to get outside their safety bubbles, educate themselves, know the difference between information and opinion, and avail themselves to the numerous honest news sources that are readily available on that same internet.

the fact that Östlund didn't light sh1t up is very concerning to me. (i've heard and read - and even saw a little - about he was dynamic ... but the absence of tangible results in a prospects tourney is concerning.)

EAP's do a lot of good for a lot of people. Anyone? There are lots of public and semi-public careers/professions where an aggravated DWI can cost someone their job (or in the case of certain professions, your license). Yeah - complicit is a good word choice. I had not thought of this. I'm thinking about it now. I really do hope he gets straightened out. Separately, do I care whether or not he continues to work in player development for the Sabres? I'm not sure. Given the team's recent history, I would not presume that he adds value to the franchise's competitiveness. But I have no idea -- maybe he does a great job with the work he does.

Seems high to be honest. Where is the seat? I'd expect to pay under 20 to sit up top.

It might be related that Bills tix are shockingly (but not surprisingly) more expensive this year. The cheapest ticket for week four against the Saints in the upper bowl is $300. Taking my family to this game blows out my ticket budget for a while.

As a fan we loved the game Mair played. The aggression, the big hits, the fights, the physical intimidation. With the recent transparency over hockey and CTE and the type of game Mair played, I don’t feel I have room to judge him at all. I cheered on his aggressive game. I cheered on the fights. Even the ones where he got his head handed to him, and there were alot of those. Given what we know about the game, CTE, and the depression, anxiety, and substance abuse that goes along with it, I can’t help but feel a level of complicity. (Is that the right word here?) Adam, I don’t know you from Adam, but I know you played the way I wanted you to play, and the aftermath likely contributed to where you are today. I hope the help he gets is effective. And I hope this doesn’t ruin his life. It was a scary lesson. Hopefully its a lesson learned.

She yells that it was in her hand and he took it away from her hand. That it hit her hand before bouncing to the row below hers is immaterial to who should actually end up with the ball. Balls and pucks that go into the crowd very often end up going home with the 2nd or even 3rd person to have an actual crack at them. Is what it is. But she did not have it in her hand when he took it. IF she did, would say she has a case. And the guy didn't come from another section. He came over from about 10 seats away (which happened to be the nearest occupied seat in his row to where the ball was) to a ball rolling around in HIS row. You can say it was in HER area because of its horizontal position relative to her and him; but you could also say it was in HIS area because it was in his row with its vertical position relative to him and her. AND it was way easier and way safer for him to get to it based upon where it was when he got the ball. For her to get to it without jumping over a seat she needed to walk to the end of her row down 2 steps and then traverse essentially the same distance within that row as he travelled from his seat to get to it. IMHO, after having watched the exchange between the 2 from a couple of different angles, fully expect that had the ball bounced closer to the guy while staying in his row after bouncing out of her hand then she would've still run over claiming he stole HER ball.

Tix on the resale market are NOT moving. Might be making a lot more weeknight games than expected. Not sure how much Pegula "saved" by essentially bringing back the entire FO and coaching staff; but uniess they get out of the gate REALLY quickly expect that'll have been a negative NPV decision by the end of October at the latest.

Im surprised it took this many years for tickets, even for a home opener, so be so far behind the rest of the league. Lets see, at $33 per ticket (I'm assuming no taxes/fees on that?) If I wanted to go with one other person, wife, kid..whoever. $66. Add in parking (is that up to about $20 now?) Lets assume not much in the way of concessions and certainly no full meals, but maybe one drink and one snack per person. At arena prices that is another $30-$40 for 2 people? So, for the team that hasn't made the playoffs in a decade-and-a-half, in one of the 'worst' arenas in the league, getting some of the worst seats in the house and having some pretty undesirable food, I might still be looking at $150 per night or more? On a weeknight/worknight/schoolnight? When I could watch it at home for free and if the game is awful tune into the Thursday nigtht NFL game instead? I'm not a person that goes to games anymore, but even if I was, between the quality of the team, the quality of the Arena/Arena experience, they would have to give me SOMETHING for me to spend any money to support them.

I agree. This is a natural byproduct I think of the Internet. Not that I've studied things but it seems logical that throughout history when there is an invention that brings large groups of people together who, until then, had been separated the difference of cultural norms will cause great friction. The Internet opened most of the world to instant communication as it has evolved. It is easier than ever to find people who agree with you or be influenced by others so that you agree with them. The traditional societal norms are not there to inhibit that behavior as it might have done in the past. Tack on perceived anonymity and certainly the safety of distance between those attacking and being attacked and it sets the stage for the behaviors we see today. Because corporations reflect the desire of the people they pick up on it and it snowballs. So, we have sensationalistic marketing, news, etc. That grows into even worse behaviors and here we are. I just hope there is a shift because the escalation is ramping up exponentially.

This doesn't sound good for Ostland and Rosen https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/buffalo-sabres-pittsburgh-penguins-2025-prospects-challenge-recap-highlights

What's shocking about it?

It is strange because people spend more time looking at what everyone else does wrong versus spending that energy on critically analyzing themselves. It's easier that way I suppose. That said, mistakes have varying degree of significance and that's where the debatable line occurs. In this case it's not like he a registered a .08. He registered a 2.0. That's not accidentally overdoing it, that's blatantly going all out. Sure, I'd love for him to get help, but he should have gotten it before this happened. People around him should have taken a stronger stand if they knew it was going on. But it didn't happen and now he very much has to deal with the situation. He's in charge of player development, players who are routinely going into their legal drinking age. It's not a good sign to have the person overseeing that demonstrating a reckless drinking behavior. It's even worse to do it with his kids in the car. If he's willing to do it with his kids then I am sure a 19 year old player might be less of an obstacle. Overall that's the way it is. We are held accountable for our actions. He'll be held accountable for his. We'll see what happens.

I don't know Adam Mair or what is going on with him. You sometimes see this in sports. Time away from family support systems and life on the road can contribute to this kind of problem. Just because professional athletes make a lot of money or are better known to the general public than engineers, accountants, factory workers, service industry employees, etc., does not mean they do not deserve a chance to fix their problems. They are not above problems that the rest of us have. It was good fortune that the police were on the spot and did their job. The best case scenario was he got caught and no one was hurt. Next, its to try to fix the problem. Simply discarding him is more likely to lead to a repeat offense that could have a worse outcome the next time.