Sabres recall Noah Ostund and Zac Jones

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, inkman said:

 

 

It’s probably coincidence and not causation but the boys played tough Saturday. Maybe it had nothing to do with Geertsen but I’d like to see if it’s a thing. He’s not good at hockey buts he’s a big boy that knows his role.  Maybe it makes the Quinn’s and Power’s of the lineup more confident to stand up for themselves and their teammates. Something is different. Not sure if it’s Doan, Timmons or some of the other new guys but they are sticking up for each other like we haven’t seen in a long time.  

This has always been the way it is. Players take less liberties if they know they will have to answer the bell and your team will play tougher knowing there is a guy to support them if things go that way. Eventually, if you get a tough team by committee these guys become less important and maybe even unnecessary. They sit in the stands in the playoffs as well, but right now, with all the kids and some softer players we need that guy. 

I suspect anyone who doesn't get this has either never played hockey or learned their hockey from video games and computer stats. 

[inkman]

2 hours ago, Jorcus said:

Who gets to fight Xhekaj if the need comes up?

Easily to coolest name in all of sports. Especially because it’s pronounced Jack-eye.  

[LGR4GM]

34 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

This has always been the way it is. Players take less liberties if they know they will have to answer the bell and your team will play tougher knowing there is a guy to support them if things go that way. Eventually, if you get a tough team by committee these guys become less important and maybe even unnecessary. They sit in the stands in the playoffs as well, but right now, with all the kids and some softer players we need that guy. 

I suspect anyone who doesn't get this has either never played hockey or learned their hockey from video games and computer stats. 

You're right, Zach Benson feels empowered now because Geertsen is on the bench. 

[kas23]

33 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

This has always been the way it is. Players take less liberties if they know they will have to answer the bell and your team will play tougher knowing there is a guy to support them if things go that way. Eventually, if you get a tough team by committee these guys become less important and maybe even unnecessary. They sit in the stands in the playoffs as well, but right now, with all the kids and some softer players we need that guy. 

I suspect anyone who doesn't get this has either never played hockey or learned their hockey from video games and computer stats. 

And yet it took Ruff coming to Buffalo for our FO to figure this out. Granted, it is run by a few computer nerds and a “Banker” (Google “Karmanos Sabres” and Google identifies him as a “Banker”), our GM who is a former NHL player should’ve been able to figure this out. 

[LGR4GM]

Just now, kas23 said:

And yet it took Ruff coming to Buffalo for our FO to figure this out. Granted, it is run by a few computer nerds and a “Banker” (Google “Karmanos Sabres” and Google identifies him as a “Banker”), our GM who is a former NHL player should’ve been able to figure this out. 

Lol we've reached just absurd levels of revision and ***** around here. 

[Porous Five Hole]

39 minutes ago, inkman said:

Easily to coolest name in all of sports. Especially because it’s pronounced Jack-eye.  

I like Perbix

[LGR4GM]

10 minutes ago, Dryballs said:

Right…. What’s the matter with us. Just because hockey is a fast, high intensity, violent sport, that’s no reason to have fast, intense, highly physical players. Just because what is being suggested has always held true, that’s no reason to accept it as fact. 

Geertsen is not fast or high intensity. I don't even think he's that physical, probably because he's not fast enough to be that. 

Further the guy plays 4 shifts total a night. Meanwhile Zach Benson is just staring y'all in the face along with Doan... but nah, Geertsen is the key. 

Edited 6 hours ago by LGR4GM

[kas23]

18 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Lol we've reached just absurd levels of revision and ***** around here. 

You called me out. Adam Nightingale played in the ECHL and was a college HC coach. Sam Ventura is still a computer nerd and Karmanos was a banker. 
 

I’m not on the Geertsen is the difference bandwagon, but you can’t deny the team has become a bit tougher over the past 2 years. And the Amerks is suddenly full of veteran bruisers after perennially getting bounced from the playoffs by bigger, tougher teams.

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, kas23 said:

And yet it took Ruff coming to Buffalo for our FO to figure this out. Granted, it is run by a few computer nerds and a “Banker” (Google “Karmanos Sabres” and Google identifies him as a “Banker”), our GM who is a former NHL player should’ve been able to figure this out. 

Agreed. I've wanted this for a long time. Sure, I'd rather have somebody more talented than Geertson in that role but for now he will do. I think they failed to address this for years because Pegula doesn't believe in it. Pegula is like @LGR4GM who just thinks in terms of stats, numbers, and wants fast skilled (virtually) no contact hockey. 

A team is a composite, and we also don't know about locker room influence on Geertson. He might be in there telling people he has their back. It matters. 

[mjd1001]

2 hours ago, kas23 said:

And yet it took Ruff coming to Buffalo for our FO to figure this out. Granted, it is run by a few computer nerds and a “Banker” (Google “Karmanos Sabres” and Google identifies him as a “Banker”), our GM who is a former NHL player should’ve been able to figure this out. 

Great, now later this year or next year, find a guy who can fight just as well but is a bit better at the actual "hockey thing."

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Agreed. I've wanted this for a long time. Sure, I'd rather have somebody more talented than Geertson in that role but for now he will do. I think they failed to address this for years because Pegula doesn't believe in it. Pegula is like @LGR4GM who just thinks in terms of stats, numbers, and wants fast skilled (virtually) no contact hockey. 

A team is a composite, and we also don't know about locker room influence on Geertson. He might be in there telling people he has their back. It matters. 

Go lie about other people. Sick of you lying about me. I truly think you're one of the worst posters on the board. Constantly proven wrong and constantly pretending you're not. It's not 1985 anymore, I'm sorry your glory days are gone. 

1 hour ago, kas23 said:

You called me out. Adam Nightingale played in the ECHL and was a college HC coach. Sam Ventura is still a computer nerd and Karmanos was a banker. 
 

I’m not on the Geertsen is the difference bandwagon, but you can’t deny the team has become a bit tougher over the past 2 years. And the Amerks is suddenly full of veteran bruisers after perennially getting bounced from the playoffs by bigger, tougher teams.

Do you like Zach Benson? Tell me honestly. 

[PerreaultForever]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Go lie about other people. Sick of you lying about me. I truly think you're one of the worst posters on the board. Constantly proven wrong and constantly pretending you're not. It's not 1985 anymore, I'm sorry your glory days are gone. 

My glory days are maybe just beginning again thanks to Ruff playing Geertson.. Told you before you are free to ignore me. My assessment of you isn't a lie, it's my assessment of you based on what you post. 

[LGR4GM]

Just now, PerreaultForever said:

My glory days are maybe just beginning again thanks to Ruff playing Geertson.. Told you before you are free to ignore me. My assessment of you isn't a lie, it's my assessment of you based on what you post. 

You're a liar. You lie about what I've advocated for because you're a lying hack.

[LGR4GM]

@PerreaultForeverwhat's your next lying nonsense about me? 

Let's see list... 

doesn't want tough players (lie)

doesn't understand and never played team sports (lie)

Only wants soft small players (lie)

Doesn't believe in toughness (lie)

I mean *****, is there anything about my position on players you've gotten right? ... yea actually you liked Peterka over Quinn. I was wrong. Of course I wanted Rossi or Jarvis so

 

[shrader]

28 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Go lie about other people. Sick of you lying about me. I truly think you're one of the worst posters on the board. Constantly proven wrong and constantly pretending you're not. It's not 1985 anymore, I'm sorry your glory days are gone.

All you had to say was bruin fan. 

[Flashsabre]

What the $&@k is happening in here?😂

[inkman]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

You're right, Zach Benson feels empowered now because Geertsen is on the bench. 

It’s not Benson or Doan that have changed.  It’s Power, Quinn, Samuelsson.  The guys that needed to change.  We are all probably looking way too far into this.  I’m just gonna enjoy it, maybe the underlying reasons will come to light.  It’s just nice to watch the Sabres behave like an actual NHL franchise. 

[Dryballs]

46 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Go lie about other people. Sick of you lying about me. I truly think you're one of the worst posters on the board. Constantly proven wrong and constantly pretending you're not. It's not 1985 anymore, I'm sorry your glory days are gone. 

Do you like Zach Benson? Tell me honestly. 

Yeah… Hey man. I’m sure you’re a fine person but it’s obvious you just wanna argue. Might be a good idea to get outside for some fresh air and exercise. 

[Flashsabre]

41 minutes ago, inkman said:

It’s not Benson or Doan that have changed.  It’s Power, Quinn, Samuelsson.  The guys that needed to change.  We are all probably looking way too far into this.  I’m just gonna enjoy it, maybe the underlying reasons will come to light.  It’s just nice to watch the Sabres behave like an actual NHL franchise. 

I guarantee it has much more to do with Ruff getting in their faces and telling them to change theirngame.

[Dryballs]

20 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

I guarantee it has much more to do with Ruff getting in their faces and telling them to change theirngame.

Ruff has been doing that since he got here.. Change in the team character and performance happen because of pier pressure, challenge and wanting to be part of it because of your ego and love of the game.  And of course, seeing results…. yeah, I’m glad Lindy is back even if only for that reason. 

[shrader]

19 minutes ago, Dryballs said:

Ruff has been doing that since he got here.. Change in the team character and performance happen because of pier pressure, challenge and wanting to be part of it because of your ego and love of the game.  And of course, seeing results…. yeah, I’m glad Lindy is back even if only for that reason. 

If I’m being pressured by a pier, I’d be worried about drowning. 

[DarthEbriate]

5 hours ago, Jorcus said:

A turtle hug is not going to do it if he cheap shots one of our guys. I don't really expect that kind of game out of these two teams but if they got a guy we need a guy. If he takes out one of our guys we take out one of theirs. That's what  Lindy said after the Thompson incident last year. 

But that guy is not Geertsen. No one cares that the Sabres have a guy who can't play at this level. Xhekaj can play. Tom Wilson can play. Noesen can play. They just also happen to be willing to take liberties. If someone takes a cheapshot, you want everyone on the ice addressing him. And after they jump him initially, you can have a staged fight from Kesselring, Greenway, Zucker, maybe Doan, etc.

Because so far, we've seen nothing from Geertsen to believe that he's willing to take liberties toward the opposition. And he couldn't skate well enough to catch up to them anyway.

[shrader]

25 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

But that guy is not Geertsen. No one cares that the Sabres have a guy who can't play at this level. Xhekaj can play. Tom Wilson can play. Noesen can play. They just also happen to be willing to take liberties. If someone takes a cheapshot, you want everyone on the ice addressing him. And after they jump him initially, you can have a staged fight from Kesselring, Greenway, Zucker, maybe Doan, etc.

Because so far, we've seen nothing from Geertsen to believe that he's willing to take liberties toward the opposition. And he couldn't skate well enough to catch up to them anyway.

It’s pretty much impossible to take liberties from the bench. 

[Dryballs]

38 minutes ago, shrader said:

If I’m being pressured by a pier, I’d be worried about drowning. 

….. ooooomannnnnn……………… was pretty bad

Edited 2 hours ago by Dryballs

[PerreaultForever]

4 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

You're a liar. You lie about what I've advocated for because you're a lying hack.

Admins?

This is considered acceptable?