Trade : Conor Timmins and Isaac Belliveau from the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for Connor Clifton and the 39th overall pick in the 2025 NHL Draft.

[Trettioåtta]

If he played with Karlsson, do we see him as our support for Dahlin?

[Sidc3000]

1 minute ago, Scottysabres said:

Yes he is, 2 to 4 times a season depending on which team he signs with 😉

[Scottysabres]

Just now, Sidc3000 said:

One can hope, but honestly, I concur. Maybe Ehlers? If we give Ehlers a big fat raise over what others offer?

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, Trettioåtta said:

If he played with Karlsson, do we see him as our support for Dahlin?

Possible. Or Power with Kesselring playing with Dahlin. We have options... weird.

[Trettioåtta]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Possible. Or Power with Kesselring playing with Dahlin. We have options... weird.

Do the fancy stats suggest he could actually support Dahlin? Rather than just be a plug Dahlin drags around the ice?

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Trettioåtta said:

Do the fancy stats suggest he could actually support Dahlin? Rather than just be a plug Dahlin drags around the ice?

He was decent with Karlsson so yes. I assume you mean Timmins.

[Mr. MVP]

33 minutes ago, Eleven said:

Picks in the upper level of the second round have about a 30% chance of playing 100 NHL games.  The fact that some of them "hit" does not make the numbers game any different.  The Sabres traded a 30% chance for a 100% chance (since Timmins already has played 100 games). 

So 30% chance?  I mean, at that rate, why even take a chance at drafting?  
I guess hockey shooting percentage is usually around 10%?  Why even take a shot?  
Baseball hitting rate would be great at 30%. But, but you might not as well even swing the bat.  
You can go out there in free agency and find guys that have played 100 games to play for your team for almost nothing.  That’s all Timmons is.  There’s players like him on the streets.  The guy is garbage.  At least not worth a 2nd round pick. 
Take a shot.  At least try to draft the next Peterka.  Don’t throw it away for guys like Malenstyn and Timmons.  

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

So 30% chance?  I mean, at that rate, why even take a chance at drafting?  
I guess hockey shooting percentage is usually around 10%?  Why even take a shot?  
Baseball hitting rate would be great at 30%. But, but you might not as well even swing the bat.  
You can go out there in free agency and find guys that have played 100 games to play for your team for almost nothing.  That’s all Timmons is.  There’s players like him on the streets.  The guy is garbage.  At least not worth a 2nd round pick. 
Take a shot.  At least try to draft the next Peterka.  Don’t throw it away for guys like Malenstyn and Timmons.  

He played 2nd pairing minutes last year... so

[dudacek]

I got nothing

[mjd1001]

I think I was one of the few people on here who liked Clifton's game.  However, I always got the impression he regretted signing in Buffalo big time.

[LGR4GM]

"Kevyn Adams needs to trade picks and get bigger and tougher!" Sabres fans

"What!? He traded a 2nd round pick! Why!?!?" Also Sabres fans

[Brawndo]

There is a few instances later in the season where Dahlin was looking to move the puck and Samuelsson was wide open to receive the pass.  Dahlin chose an alternate option in almost every case 

[mjd1001]

So, was Timmins a guy who would 'want to be here', from St. Catherines so he's 'coming home' and maybe grew up a Sabres fan?

[Wyldnwoody44]

Meh, still not enough for this team to get over the hump. I'll keep waiting patiently and hope to not be disappointed. 

[ponokasabre]

1 minute ago, Brawndo said:

There is a few instances later in the season where Dahlin was looking to move the puck and Samuelsson was wide open to receive the pass.  Dahlin chose an alternate option in almost every case 

Ya he has got to go

[Scottysabres]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

"Kevyn Adams needs to trade picks and get bigger and tougher!" Sabres fans

"What!? He traded a 2nd round pick! Why!?!?" Also Sabres fans

True

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Wyldnwoody44 said:

Meh, still not enough for this team to get over the hump. I'll keep waiting patiently and hope to not be disappointed. 

I won't disagree. I will say this team has an entirely knew rhd core to start 2025 with Docker, Kesselring, and Timmins

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, SabresBillsFan said:

No, Adams is ***** terrible and Pegula is too much of a fan boy.  He’s the Jerry Jones of hockey who is in way over his head. Hire a proven GM and move Lindy Ruff upstairs!

This thread regarding this trade is not really the place for this tantrum.

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Scottysabres said:

True

Ftr, I'm not complaining about those fans. We've been in an abusive relationship for years

 

[Scottysabres]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Ftr, I'm not complaining about those fans. We've been in an abusive relationship for years

 

Also true.

every off season I’m hopeful the moves made work. It really is a shame it hasn’t thus far.

[Mango]

Everything this off-season has been "fine". It's almost always "fine" it's just never enough or good.

[Eleven]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said:

So 30% chance?  I mean, at that rate, why even take a chance at drafting?  
I guess hockey shooting percentage is usually around 10%?  Why even take a shot?  
Baseball hitting rate would be great at 30%. But, but you might not as well even swing the bat.  
You can go out there in free agency and find guys that have played 100 games to play for your team for almost nothing.  That’s all Timmons is.  There’s players like him on the streets.  The guy is garbage.  At least not worth a 2nd round pick. 
Take a shot.  At least try to draft the next Peterka.  Don’t throw it away for guys like Malenstyn and Timmons.  

I want you at my poker table.

[mjd1001]

Any chance that Timmins is the guy who ends up skating most of the time with Power?

[elijah]

We’re complaining about this trade too? 

A big RHD that’s strong analytically, a need on the team, for us to dump Clifton’s cap and attach a 2nd? Adams made a solid trade here but I guess there’s just no winning when you’re staring down year 15

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Any chance that Timmins is the guy who ends up skating most of the time with Power?

Sure. Who knows how they'll run the defense. There's 3 new rhd on this team.