Chad D: expect a Byram trade at or around the draft

[ponokasabre]

20 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

FWIW….likely not much haha

a rumor on X  has

Byram for Parayko, Bolduc, 3rd

If this was real I would cry, it’s about as perfect as possible which makes it not possible lol

[Warriorspikes51]

8 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Love Parayko but that trade would be really strange as we'd suddenly have 4 new RHDs as of the deadline and a huge question mark at forward in general 

it could make sense if we were able to land Ehlers? Or someone similar via trade? 

[Thorny]

19 minutes ago, dudacek said:

As the roster currently stands, the biggest crying need is a playmaking top-six forward.

On the free agent front, i was thinking Patty Kane might be a good one, but he had just 17 primary assists. Best bets are Mikael Granlund with 31 (17th in the league) while Ehlers had 27

Other guys potentially available:

• Necas: 32
• Zibenajad 31
• Danault 28
• Rust 23
• Rossi 22

If Byram's gotta go and the Kings are interested, Danault is somebody I'd be looking at.

Only 21 NHL forwards had 30 primary assists

Jason Zucker(!) led the Sbres with 24. Never would have guessed that.

Not sure it's a stat I'd want to invest in heavily looking at the league leaders, but interesting and relevant.

 

Ehlers would be really good. Sure he’s a diver, but for all their talk this offseason about wanting to “decrease skill in favour of grit” or whatever, it would be nice to add a guy who simply really fast and good and really good at passing 

[CTJoe]

23 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

If this was real I would cry, it’s about as perfect as possible which makes it not possible lol

No way STL would give up that much for Byram, UNLESS STL thinks the 4 years left on Parayko's contract isn't going to age well?  It probably doesnt age well, and the fact he's a RHD doesn't make that much sense in a trade for Buffalo

[Rasmus_]

I notice there's not been many credible source updates.  Other than teams are interested.  KA is so pathetic. 

[CTJoe]

7 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

I notice there's not been many credible source updates.  Other than teams are interested.  KA is so pathetic. 

Byram's being traded after thing shake out, sometime after the initial part of UFA when teams re-access needs.

[tom webster]

54 minutes ago, dudacek said:

As the roster currently stands, the biggest crying need is a playmaking top-six forward.

On the free agent front, i was thinking Patty Kane might be a good one, but he had just 17 primary assists. Best bets are Mikael Granlund with 31 (17th in the league) while Ehlers had 27

Other guys potentially available:

• Necas: 32
• Zibenajad 31
• Danault 28
• Rust 23
• Rossi 22

If Byram's gotta go and the Kings are interested, Danault is somebody I'd be looking at.

Only 21 NHL forwards had 30 primary assists

Jason Zucker(!) led the Sbres with 24. Never would have guessed that.

Not sure it's a stat I'd want to invest in heavily looking at the league leaders, but interesting and relevant.

 

I’ve thought about Kane and Drouin for the play making forward.

[ponokasabre]

8 minutes ago, tom webster said:

I’ve thought about Kane and Drouin for the play making forward.

Rust seems like the defacto option if we dont get one in the Byram deal. His no trade is gone tomorrow, we have been rumored to want him and Pitt has openly said they want picks and prospects for there veterans so we could easily do that

I could live with a Byram for a physical stay at home dman for Dahlin and then Rust for picks and prospects.

Rust has had a bit of an injury bug lately but he is still an elite forward that does all his damage around the net. I dont know enough about him to say if he is physical or not, id hope hes like Zucker. And Zucker would know him well as he has played with Pitt in the past. The biggest question is has he hit that post 30 wall and how inflated are his numbers playing with Crosby

[CTJoe]

19 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

Rust seems like the defacto option if we dont get one in the Byram deal. His no trade is gone tomorrow, we have been rumored to want him and Pitt has openly said they want picks and prospects for there veterans so we could easily do that

I could live with a Byram for a physical stay at home dman for Dahlin and then Rust for picks and prospects.

Rust has had a bit of an injury bug lately but he is still an elite forward that does all his damage around the net. I dont know enough about him to say if he is physical or not, id hope hes like Zucker. And Zucker would know him well as he has played with Pitt in the past. The biggest question is has he hit that post 30 wall and how inflated are his numbers playing with Crosby

Rust would be a nice idea, but Rust is a RW and Rust was -21 last year playing WITH crosby

[Mr. MVP]

1 hour ago, ponokasabre said:

If this was real I would cry, it’s about as perfect as possible which makes it not possible lol

Doesn’t Parayko have a NMC? 

[dudacek]

38 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

Rust seems like the defacto option if we dont get one in the Byram deal. His no trade is gone tomorrow, we have been rumored to want him and Pitt has openly said they want picks and prospects for there veterans so we could easily do that

I could live with a Byram for a physical stay at home dman for Dahlin and then Rust for picks and prospects.

Rust has had a bit of an injury bug lately but he is still an elite forward that does all his damage around the net. I dont know enough about him to say if he is physical or not, id hope hes like Zucker. And Zucker would know him well as he has played with Pitt in the past. The biggest question is has he hit that post 30 wall and how inflated are his numbers playing with Crosby

Is it possible the Timmins trade was half a deal?

As in Pit wanted the pick, but couldn't move Rust until tomorrow?

So there's a Rust for ??? coming soon that would make that deal make a little more sense?

[Warriorspikes51]

41 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

Rust seems like the defacto option if we dont get one in the Byram deal. His no trade is gone tomorrow, we have been rumored to want him and Pitt has openly said they want picks and prospects for there veterans so we could easily do that

I could live with a Byram for a physical stay at home dman for Dahlin and then Rust for picks and prospects.

Rust has had a bit of an injury bug lately but he is still an elite forward that does all his damage around the net. I dont know enough about him to say if he is physical or not, id hope hes like Zucker. And Zucker would know him well as he has played with Pitt in the past. The biggest question is has he hit that post 30 wall and how inflated are his numbers playing with Crosby

Elite?  Lol.    Good yes.  

[Mr. MVP]

3 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Is it possible the Timmins trade was half a deal?

As in Pit wanted the pick, but couldn't move Rust until tomorrow?

So there's a Rust for ??? coming soon that would make that deal make a little more sense?

Realistically what would we have to give up?   I would hate if it was one of our better prospects line Henlius or Östlund.  Someone like Rosen might not be enough.  
But I don’t think Rusty is that good.  I think he just got to clean up a lot of Crosby’s chances.  

[CTJoe]

6 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Is it possible the Timmins trade was half a deal?

As in Pit wanted the pick, but couldn't move Rust until tomorrow?

So there's a Rust for ??? coming soon that would make that deal make a little more sense?

Sure, but would be more believable if he wasn't a RW.  Tage, Tuch are you top 2 RWers.  Granted you could move Tage back to center and Kulich to LW but that's a lot of moving for him and Tage is betetr at RW and Kulich at center

[The Jokeman]

At this point I would take anyone of the following for Byram:

1. Quinton Byfield

2. Dawson Mercer 

3. Dmitri Voronkov

4. Jordan Kyrou

5. Jason Robertson

Yet knowing Kevyn Adams none of them are coming here. 

 

[Mr. MVP]

14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

At this point I would take anyone of the following for Byram:

1. Quinton Byfield

2. Dawson Mercer 

3. Dmitri Voronkov

4. Jordan Kyrou

5. Jason Robertson

Yet knowing Kevyn Adams none of them are coming here. 

 

Some of those would be so good but so unlikely. 

[thewookie1]

No interest in Mercer but the rest aren't bad.

[CTJoe]

20 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

At this point I would take anyone of the following for Byram:

1. Quinton Byfield

2. Dawson Mercer 

3. Dmitri Voronkov

4. Jordan Kyrou

5. Jason Robertson

Yet knowing Kevyn Adams none of them are coming here. 

would have to add signicantly to get a lot these guys just for Byram

[kas23]

3 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

Love Parayko but that trade would be really strange as we'd suddenly have 4 new RHDs as of the deadline and a huge question mark at forward in general 

I mean, Bolduc potted 19 goals last season at played at 0.5 PPG pace, all at the age of 22. No way we would get both Bolduc and Parayko. Maybe Parayko is a salary dump. Cap hit $6.5M. 

[The Jokeman]

4 hours ago, ponokasabre said:

If this was real I would cry, it’s about as perfect as possible which makes it not possible lol

Yeah no way KA could land this but if he did I'd give him a job well done.

[sabremike]

I get the feeling he gets a poison pill laced offer sheet.

[inkman]

11 minutes ago, sabremike said:

I get the feeling he gets a poison pill laced offer sheet.

What’s a poison pill for a team with $20 mill in cap space? 

[LGR4GM]

I don't think I've said it here but, if adams doesn't spend near the cap and let's Byram go and just has millions in unused money, he's a giant fraud and a con. Spend to make this team more competitive and if convincing players to come here is too hard for you, quit because you're incapable of doing your job.

Just now, inkman said:

What’s a poison pill for a team with $20 mill in cap space? 

With Adams around, probably anything over 6 million. 

[krakensabr56390]

1 minute ago, inkman said:

What’s a poison pill for a team with $20 mill in cap space? 

Yeah there’s no way to poison pill it - people do that by making a qualifying offer the second year super high… He’s UFA after second year. Therefore it’s useless.

[The Jokeman]

38 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I don't think I've said it here but, if adams doesn't spend near the cap and let's Byram go and just has millions in unused money, he's a giant fraud and a con. Spend to make this team more competitive and if convincing players to come here is too hard for you, quit because you're incapable of doing your job.

With Adams around, probably anything over 6 million. 

He'd rather keep Samuelsson than pay Byram makes no sense.