Time to trade Peterka

[dudacek]

7 minutes ago, Thorny said:

The sabres don’t seem to negotiate or convince when a player has concerns it sounds like they just give up errrrr revert to “we only want players who want to be here.”

Who are you thinking of?

[Thorny]

2 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Who are you thinking of?

Eichel, Reinhart, O’Reilly, Peterka were floating through my head when I typed it out 

Edited Tuesday at 09:51 PM by Thorny

[Taro T]

45 minutes ago, Thorny said:

The sabres don’t seem to negotiate or convince when a player has concerns it sounds like they just give up errrrr revert to “we only want players who want to be here.”

And the mofo's running the show don't seem to be smart enough to ask these guys who've all said they WANT to be here in the past (most of them multiple times as they've had multiple end of season interviews with coaches and management) what THEY (management) need to do to get them to continue to feel that way.

IF your metric and a key factor in what players you want is a player WANTING to be a Sabre; well wtf are YOU (management and ownership) doing to KEEP these guys wanting to be here PLUS getting other players that aren't here to have the opinion that Buffalo IS a good place to play hockey and those other pleyers would wear the sweater WITH PRIDE?

45 minutes ago, Thorny said:

The sabres don’t seem to negotiate or convince when a player has concerns it sounds like they just give up errrrr revert to “we only want players who want to be here.”

And the mofo's running the show don't seem to be smart enough to ask these guys who've all said they WANT to be here in the past (most of them multiple times as they've had multiple end of season interviews with coaches and management) what THEY (management) need to do to get them to continue to feel that way.

IF your metric and a key factor in what players you want is a player WANTING to be a Sabre; well wtf are YOU (management and ownership) doing to KEEP these guys wanting to be here PLUS getting other players that aren't here to have the opinion that Buffalo IS a good place to play hockey and those other pleyers would wear the sweater WITH PRIDE?

[LGR4GM]

5 minutes ago, Taro T said:

And the mofo's running the show don't seem to be smart enough to ask these guys who've all said they WANT to be here in the past (most of them multiple times as they've had multiple end of season interviews with coaches and management) what THEY (management) need to do to get them to continue to feel that way.

IF your metric and a key factor in what players you want is a player WANTING to be a Sabre; well wtf are YOU (management and ownership) doing to KEEP these guys wanting to be here PLUS getting other players that aren't here to have the opinion that Buffalo IS a good place to play hockey and those other pleyers would wear the sweater WITH PRIDE?

And the mofo's running the show don't seem to be smart enough to ask these guys who've all said they WANT to be here in the past (most of them multiple times as they've had multiple end of season interviews with coaches and management) what THEY (management) need to do to get them to continue to feel that way.

IF your metric and a key factor in what players you want is a player WANTING to be a Sabre; well wtf are YOU (management and ownership) doing to KEEP these guys wanting to be here PLUS getting other players that aren't here to have the opinion that Buffalo IS a good place to play hockey and those other pleyers would wear the sweater WITH PRIDE?

Adams isn't smart. 

[Thorny]

24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Adams isn't smart. 

Ya he’s a mofo

[Pondslider]

Adams doesn’t want to know because he might have to tell Terry that he’s the problem and Adams is all about self-preservation. It’s easier to just say they don’t want to be here because what can you do? They’ve made up their mind they want to leave.  

[dudacek]

2 hours ago, Thorny said:

Eichel, Reinhart, O’Reilly, Peterka were floating through my head when I typed it out 

Ah, further back.

Agree with Sam. I always thought they worked to keep Jack, but were unsuccessful, and ROR was more about the Sabres wanting to dump him than the other way around.

But that entire COViD team was largely them happily sending those players out the door: McCabe, Montour, Hall, Risto, Staal… I guess they tried on Ullmark.

Curious what will come out of the Peterka situation once the dust settles as to the whys and the spin.

But all that really matters to me is the result.

 

Edited yesterday at 12:27 AM by dudacek

[Archie Lee]

I was listening to a couple of Leaf podcasts this week. On the Dangle Podcast they were referring to the Thompson interview as a cry for help; they also think Adams should be fired and that it is crazy the Sabres are entertaining offers for Peterka. On The Leaf Report, they had Dom  L. on (he’s the Athletics’ analytics guru). He was discussing the Leafs’ pending loss of Marner and how they will be down to 2 star players (Nylander and Matthews) and having to compete with the Panthers who have 3 stars (Barlow, Tkachuk, Reinhart) on more team friendly contracts.

Also, there seem to be a lot of teams interested in Peterka.

Also as I pointed out earlier, Peterka had more points in his D5 year than two of the stars referenced above (Nylander and Reinhart). 

You need stars to win in the NHL. You also need depth and grit and leadership. But you need 2-4 elite level offensive players. Thompson is one of the best goal scorers in the NHL. Dahlin is an elite defenceman. It is not a certainty that Peterka is that just yet, but who do we have on the roster or coming up that is more likely to be a star? I see nobody.

If Peterka is traded then it needs to be a big franchise altering deal that everyone who knows hockey looks at and says: “the Sabres are now a playoff team, it’s your move Lindy Ruff”. Short of that, I’m hoping for a Peterka extension, and I will hold-out for Adams to be fired. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Archie Lee

[LGR4GM]

11 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

I was listening to a couple of Leafs podcasts this week. On the Dangle Podcast they were referring to the Thompson interview as a cry for help; they also think Adams should be fired and that it is crazy the Sabres are entertaining offers for Peterka. On The Leaf Report, they had Dom  L. on (he’s the Athletics’ analytics guru). He was discussing the Leafs’ pending loss of Marner and how they will be down to 2 star players (Nylander and Matthews) and having to complete with the Panthers who have 3 stars (Barlow, Tkachuk, Reinhart) on more team friendly contracts.

Also, there seem to be a lot of teams interested in Peterka.

Also as I pointed out earlier, Peterka had more points in his D5 year than two of the stars referenced above (Nylander and Reinhart). 

You need stars to win in the NHL. You also need depth and grit and leadership. But you need 2-4 elite level offensive players. Thompson is one of the best goal scorers in the NHL. Dahlin is an elite defenceman. It is not a certainty that Peterka is that just yet, but who do we have on the roster or coming up that is more likely to be a star? I see nobody.

If Peterka is traded then it needs to be a big franchise altering deal that everyone who knows hockey looks at and says: “the Sabres are now a playoff team, it’s your move Lindy Ruff”. Short of that, I’m hoping for a Peterka extension, and I will hold-out for Adams to be fired. 

Zach Benson. 

But your point still stands. 

[The Jokeman]

35 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

I was listening to a couple of Leafs podcasts this week. On the Dangle Podcast they were referring to the Thompson interview as a cry for help; they also think Adams should be fired and that it is crazy the Sabres are entertaining offers for Peterka. On The Leaf Report, they had Dom  L. on (he’s the Athletics’ analytics guru). He was discussing the Leafs’ pending loss of Marner and how they will be down to 2 star players (Nylander and Matthews) and having to complete with the Panthers who have 3 stars (Barlow, Tkachuk, Reinhart) on more team friendly contracts.

Also, there seem to be a lot of teams interested in Peterka.

Also as I pointed out earlier, Peterka had more points in his D5 year than two of the stars referenced above (Nylander and Reinhart). 

You need stars to win in the NHL. You also need depth and grit and leadership. But you need 2-4 elite level offensive players. Thompson is one of the best goal scorers in the NHL. Dahlin is an elite defenceman. It is not a certainty that Peterka is that just yet, but who do we have on the roster or coming up that is more likely to be a star? I see nobody.

If Peterka is traded then it needs to be a big franchise altering deal that everyone who knows hockey looks at and says: “the Sabres are now a playoff team, it’s your move Lindy Ruff”. Short of that, I’m hoping for a Peterka extension, and I will hold-out for Adams to be fired. 

Levi might but the next great one but thus far he hasn't shown it in the NHL. That said we need a legitimate 2nd line player besides bring back JJP that. Moving him isn't going to help unless we get someone equal or better to him back. Yet we also don't have any tough guys, Greeenway has size but I mean he isn't what I think as gritty. As need a Vaclav Varada/Matthew Barnaby type for the 3rd line. The 4th line is non existent in that can't score or defend so that needs improvement. Our defense is a mess outside of Dahlin. Power got paid way too early in his career and same with Samuelsson. Clifford looks like he was a product of Boston's system and was a bad signing. At Goalie UPL regressed last year and have nobody to pair with him. Yet guys like Norris and Levi give us some hope but still need that top 6 forward and top 4 RHD and legitimate 40 game goalie to pair with UPL until Levi can be a consistent player in the NHL to take a step up just to be a playoff team but so much more to expect to do anything in the playoffs. 

[JohnC]

29 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Zach Benson. 

But your point still stands. 

I don't want to trade JJP. But if you gave me the choice of trading either JJP or Benson, I would deal JJP. There is a tenacity to his game that this team desperately needs more of. What is his scoring upside? You are more upbeat about his production numbers than I am. For me, his importance to the team goes beyond the goal numbers. We need a couple more Zucker/McCleod/Benson types to this loose/soft roster makeup. 

[That Aud Smell]

On 6/17/2025 at 6:40 PM, Taro T said:

And the mofo's running the show don't seem to be smart enough to ask these guys who've all said they WANT to be here in the past (most of them multiple times as they've had multiple end of season interviews with coaches and management) what THEY (management) need to do to get them to continue to feel that way.

It's a terrible cycle we're stuck in:

KA: "We want players who want to be here."

KA: [Does a dozen things that make players not want to be here.]

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, Archie Lee said:

I was listening to a couple of Leaf podcasts this week. On the Dangle Podcast they were referring to the Thompson interview as a cry for help; they also think Adams should be fired and that it is crazy the Sabres are entertaining offers for Peterka. On The Leaf Report, they had Dom  L. on (he’s the Athletics’ analytics guru). He was discussing the Leafs’ pending loss of Marner and how they will be down to 2 star players (Nylander and Matthews) and having to compete with the Panthers who have 3 stars (Barlow, Tkachuk, Reinhart) on more team friendly contracts.

Also, there seem to be a lot of teams interested in Peterka.

Also as I pointed out earlier, Peterka had more points in his D5 year than two of the stars referenced above (Nylander and Reinhart). 

You need stars to win in the NHL. You also need depth and grit and leadership. But you need 2-4 elite level offensive players. Thompson is one of the best goal scorers in the NHL. Dahlin is an elite defenceman. It is not a certainty that Peterka is that just yet, but who do we have on the roster or coming up that is more likely to be a star? I see nobody.

If Peterka is traded then it needs to be a big franchise altering deal that everyone who knows hockey looks at and says: “the Sabres are now a playoff team, it’s your move Lindy Ruff”. Short of that, I’m hoping for a Peterka extension, and I will hold-out for Adams to be fired. 

I'm the guy who started this thread and still think this is a great post.

The Sabres need a blockbuster trade where they give up skill, speed and potential in exchange for discipline grit and results; Peterka is their best chip to do that.

But it has to be value in, value out. It can't be for pieces.

Really, the model needs to be Mogilny for Peca and McKee, with Peca and McKee already developed.

Doubtful we can pull it off.

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I'm the guy who started this thread and still think this is a great post.

The Sabres need a blockbuster trade where they give up skill, speed and potential in exchange for discipline grit and results; Peterka is their best chip to do that.

But it has to be value in, value out. It can't be for pieces.

Really, the model needs to be Mogilny for Peca and McKee, with Peca and McKee already developed.

Doubtful we can pull it off.

The fault in this as time we did that had guys like Audette, Dawe, Plante, Holzinger and eventually Satan to come in that chip in 20 or more goals a piece and we might have 2 guys besides JJP that can do that. Toss in a goalie/defense who gave up only 2.5 goals a game so we didn't need as many goals on offense. I agree we need grit but also can't go lose scoring either.

[Gatorman0519]

Peterka is going to be a really good player in this league. And he will do it mostly on another team (joining many other former Sabres to do so).  Sabres are a developmental squad for contenders. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Gatorman0519

[dudacek]

3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

The fault in this as time we did that had guys like Audette, Dawe, Plante, Holzinger and eventually Satan to come in that chip in 20 or more goals a piece and we might have 2 guys besides JJP that can do that. Toss in a goalie/defense who gave up only 2.5 goals a game so we didn't need as many goals on offense. I agree we need grit but also can't go lose scoring either.

I think we might, assuming gains defensively from the trade.

I think Quinn, Kulich, Benson, and Cozens/Norris all have the capacity to score more goals, particularly given some of Peterka's opportunities.

[LGR4GM]

Just saying...

 

 

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Just saying...

 

 

Peterka, 9 (or the pick from Byram's exit), and a prospect (hopefully likely a Rosenesque one, not necessarily a Helenius) really does seem to be a realistic package for Robertson.  Because it makes sense for both sides.

[steveoath]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Just saying...

 

Jarmo needs to do some Jarmoing. 

2 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Peterka, 9 (or the pick from Byram's exit), and a prospect (hopefully likely a Rosenesque one, not necessarily a Helenius) really does seem to be a realistic package for Robertson.  Because it makes sense for both sides.

Agree. I’m not giving them Helenius. But can stomach Rosen, ***** even Quinn at this point - conceding that I think he will be a very good scorer when healthy. 

Edited 2 hours ago by steveoath

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, steveoath said:

Jarmo needs to do some Jarmoing. 

9, Peterka, Rosen, Quinn, Östlund, 39, Clifton, Samuelsson would all be players you could use for some kind of deal. 

[French Collection]

Just now, steveoath said:

Jarmo needs to do some Jarmoing. 

We know KA doesn’t take advantage of cap space or other teams who need it.

This is where the adult in the room has to speak up or knock some sense into KA andTP.

[ponokasabre]

8 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Peterka, 9 (or the pick from Byram's exit), and a prospect (hopefully likely a Rosenesque one, not necessarily a Helenius) really does seem to be a realistic package for Robertson.  Because it makes sense for both sides.

Peterka for Robertson just makes so much sense, as they could then bridge Peterka saving money overall

I wonder if a Quinn for Marchment kind of deal could be worked out as well? That would save them a ton of space too

For us we would need to buy out Sammy, move Cliffton and Lafferty likely to do a move like that, but man would it be exciting

[steveoath]

24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

9, Peterka, Rosen, Quinn, Östlund, 39, Clifton, Samuelsson would all be players you could use for some kind of deal. 

Exactly my thoughts. 

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, dudacek said:

I think we might, assuming gains defensively from the trade.

I think Quinn, Kulich, Benson, and Cozens/Norris all have the capacity to score more goals, particularly given some of Peterka's opportunities.

Quinn and Norris' inability to stay healthy concern me. I don't get the Benson love to me he feels like another Krebs, 3rd/4th line guy at best. Kullich could replace JJP points but feel JJP has more skill. 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

9, Peterka, Rosen, Quinn, Östlund, 39, Clifton, Samuelsson would all be players you could use for some kind of deal. 

Power could be a piece too but the question if you wanted to keep Byram instead.