sabremike Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 (edited) 56 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Samuelsson, Savoie 24' 2nd and 25' 3rd for Drew Doughty(3mil retained) Would you do it? This might be the most bonkers trade proposal I have ever seen on these boards. Doughty is washed up and sucks, that would be a spectacularly awful trade. Edit: I was probably too harsh here and was probably clouded by recency bias on the player. I still think he would be a terrible fit because he wouldn't want to play in Buffalo. Edited February 17 by sabremike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 16 minutes ago, sabremike said: This might be the most bonkers trade proposal I have ever seen on these boards. Doughty is washed up and sucks, that would be a spectacularly awful trade. Edit: I was probably too harsh here and was probably clouded by recency bias on the player. I still think he would be a terrible fit because he wouldn't want to play in Buffalo. His corsi and fenwick metrics are still good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, thewookie1 said: Samuelsson, Savoie 24' 2nd and 25' 3rd for Drew Doughty(3mil retained) Would you do it? Are they on the seven team M-NTC? He is playing good, but I would aim for Rasmus Anderson from Calgary Quote Edited February 17 by Brawndo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Line Center Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 13 hours ago, Night Train said: https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/news/sabres-have-prime-trade-target-in-flames-star-defenseman Make it happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Line Center Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Casey has 4 goals since December 15. I knew it wasn’t much since Jan 1. I have no idea anymore with this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 27 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Are they on the seven team M-NTC? He is playing good, but I would aim for Rasmus Anderson from Calgary Quote The one thing I do like about Doughty over Andersson is the grit and fire he has to win. That’s a guy who could kick his teammates’ ***** and have the talent and experience to back it up. And is that not what this team needs? Plus honestly he plays a lot like Dahlin, offensive instincts with a borderline dirty hitting streak. He’s from London, Ontario so perhaps if the Kings free fall the rest of the year he might be open to it. And maybe we grab his buddy Quick to backup for a year. Essentially bring me some proven winners that will play with fire and passion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 13 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: The one thing I do like about Doughty over Andersson is the grit and fire he has to win. That’s a guy who could kick his teammates’ ***** and have the talent and experience to back it up. And is that not what this team needs? Plus honestly he plays a lot like Dahlin, offensive instincts with a borderline dirty hitting streak. He’s from London, Ontario so perhaps if the Kings free fall the rest of the year he might be open to it. And maybe we grab his buddy Quick to backup for a year. Essentially bring me some proven winners that will play with fire and passion The other issue is 27 million dollars in cap space for your top three defenseman for the next three years is a little steep Look at next season for example they have 11 players signed and 26 million in cap space. Dougherty takes up 8 million of that, Mitts probably 6.5 million, Jokiharju 3 million, UPL probably around 2.5 and Krebs about a million. That’s 16 players with 5 million left in cap space with 2/3s of the fourth line still needing to be replaced. Oh and Peterka, Quinn, Tuch and Benson will all need new deals during that time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 3 hours ago, Brawndo said: The other issue is 27 million dollars in cap space for your top three defenseman for the next three years is a little steep Look at next season for example they have 11 players signed and 26 million in cap space. Dougherty takes up 8 million of that, Mitts probably 6.5 million, Jokiharju 3 million, UPL probably around 2.5 and Krebs about a million. That’s 16 players with 5 million left in cap space with 2/3s of the fourth line still needing to be replaced. Oh and Peterka, Quinn, Tuch and Benson will all need new deals during that time as well. That is true, this is what I came up with. After next year we'd be forced to trade or buyout Skinner with cap hits of 4,6,2,2 but with at least one of Peterka/Quinn getting a bridge; the money would be available. It would just be a tad tight. I'm not all that worried about Tuch, he's making 4.75mil now and in 2 years he'll likely be about 6 mil which isn't a huge jump. https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4893758 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, thewookie1 said: That is true, this is what I came up with. After next year we'd be forced to trade or buyout Skinner with cap hits of 4,6,2,2 but with at least one of Peterka/Quinn getting a bridge; the money would be available. It would just be a tad tight. I'm not all that worried about Tuch, he's making 4.75mil now and in 2 years he'll likely be about 6 mil which isn't a huge jump. https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4893758 I've been hammering this for months. Skinners contract was structured to be bought out after next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 (edited) 10 hours ago, thewookie1 said: The one thing I do like about Doughty over Andersson is the grit and fire he has to win. That’s a guy who could kick his teammates’ ***** and have the talent and experience to back it up. And is that not what this team needs? Plus honestly he plays a lot like Dahlin, offensive instincts with a borderline dirty hitting streak. He’s from London, Ontario so perhaps if the Kings free fall the rest of the year he might be open to it. And maybe we grab his buddy Quick to backup for a year. Essentially bring me some proven winners that will play with fire and passion Doughty is still fabulous, but at his age and salary, it makes no sense. Maybe in the offseason. But trading for him now is pointless unless the cost is limited. (We aren't making the playoffs.) Also, he wouldn't come here amicably, I'd guess. Not sure the cost of Andersson, but I've been a fan for a while. Edited February 17 by Rasmus_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Lee Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Hank said: I've been hammering this for months. Skinners contract was structured to be bought out after next season. I guess that's a doable buy-out. It's hardly a good thing though, to have $4,$6,$2,$2 million in dead space for the 4 seasons after next; that is about when we should be spending to the cap in order to win hockey games. If moving on from Skinner is something the organization decides to do, much better to see if he will waive his NMC for a handful of teams and eat 50% of his salary and attach a pick if needed to get rid of him. We are going to be paying him to play elsewhere either way, so we might as well avoid the cap hit for the additional years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 (edited) I dont get why some of you just want to hand out these large contracts these players haven't proven *****. It's Garbage cycle S hit=career year= big contract = back to s hit Edited February 17 by Buffalonill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 6 hours ago, thewookie1 said: That is true, this is what I came up with. After next year we'd be forced to trade or buyout Skinner with cap hits of 4,6,2,2 but with at least one of Peterka/Quinn getting a bridge; the money would be available. It would just be a tad tight. I'm not all that worried about Tuch, he's making 4.75mil now and in 2 years he'll likely be about 6 mil which isn't a huge jump. https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4893758 Is Pegula going to be willing to pay Jeff Skinner 16 million dollars not to play hockey, when the prevailing thought is he will be reluctant to pay Granato 3.8 million not to coach? This deal would depend on Dougherty being willing to come to Buffalo, The Kings being willing to retain 3 million per season for three years and Pegula being willing to buy out Skinner. That’s a stretch that all three would happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 14 hours ago, thewookie1 said: Samuelsson, Savoie 24' 2nd and 25' 3rd for Drew Doughty(3mil retained) Would you do it? Maybe 5 years ago. I would immediately for Drew Barrymore though. Still a hottie at almost 50. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Rasmus_ said: Doughty is still fabulous, but at his age and salary, it makes no sense. Maybe in the offseason. But trading for him now is pointless unless the cost is limited. (We aren't making the playoffs.) Also, he wouldn't come here amicably, I'd guess. Not sure the cost of Andersson, but I've been a fan for a while. Probably similar to what Ekholm when for a first, prospect and a roster defenseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 17 Author Report Share Posted February 17 10 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said: Maybe 5 years ago. I would immediately for Drew Barrymore though. Still a hottie at almost 50. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Rasmus_ said: Doughty is still fabulous, but at his age and salary, it makes no sense. Maybe in the offseason. But trading for him now is pointless unless the cost is limited. (We aren't making the playoffs.) Also, he wouldn't come here amicably, I'd guess. Not sure the cost of Andersson, but I've been a fan for a while. It's meant to be an offseason trade 🙂 It really only works if LA continues their death spiral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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