Brawndo Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, dudacek said: Eichel for Heiskanen and a first. The Sabres would have to add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Eichel for Barkov (signed) and Spencer Knight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, Brawndo said: The Sabres would have to add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, dudacek said: Eichel for Heiskanen and a first. You're just playin with liger now right lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, dudacek said: Eichel for Barkov (signed) and Spencer Knight. Love me some Sasha Barkov. Would buy the jersey same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, dudacek said: Eichel for Barkov (signed) and Spencer Knight. Just now, Randall Flagg said: You're just playin with liger now right lol It's pretty funny actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, dudacek said: Eichel for Barkov (signed) and Spencer Knight. That's one I was very intrigued about until Florida went off this year, I was hoping they and Sasha would want a similar change of scenery to us/Eichel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Eichel for Dach and Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: It's pretty funny actually I hope so...I don't want to imagine the alternative... Just now, dudacek said: Eichel for Dach and Kane Gotta see more of Dach before being okay with this one. I've heard good things, but I've also heard good things about Luke Adam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Eichel for Landeskog, Byrum and Newhook Eichel for Seth Jones and Boone Jenner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Eichel for Larkin, Raymond and Seider Eichel for Coutourier and Provorov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) I think I’m running out of gas now 🤪 But my point is, if we are going to trade Eichel can it be a hockey trade? Edited April 17, 2021 by dudacek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Can someone check on @dudacek? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, dudacek said: Eichel for Landeskog, Byrum and Newhook Eichel for Seth Jones and Boone Jenner 7 minutes ago, dudacek said: Eichel for Landeskog, Byrum and Newhook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) I was actually going to make a thread that made possible Eichel trades for each teams, but duda has done all the work here. If we could get anaheim to tack on Rakell, so Rakell, Zegras, Gibson, and Comtois I'd be okay with that one. For Eichel and sumn else. To be sure, i'd be willing to make that something else good. Edited April 17, 2021 by Randall Flagg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: We should just sign Landeskog and trade Eichel to the Kings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, #freejame said: We should just sign Landeskog and trade Eichel to the Kings That is a potential upside to an Eichel for futures deal — the space it may create for other adds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbert11 Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: But who would be get back in trade that is a proven upgrade over all the kids I just listed? The answer is likely no one, because what we will get back are similar young players, prospects or picks. Nothing that is a sure fire upgrade. I’m not trading Eichel for any reason or any offer. I believe this team has actually turned the corner. I’m no longer interested in more prospects. I have those and those kids are proving with each passing game that they are ready to move this team forward. Why on earth would I remove the best of the lot when he finally has help? Kevyn? Edited April 17, 2021 by gilbert11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, gilbert11 said: Kevyn? You found me out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 hours ago, dudacek said: Eichel for Coutourier and Provorov I'd do it if Couts extended for 4 years. A 1LHD and 1C don't come cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: A lot of them are already doing it though, this is not a Kings basket. Buchnevich is already a very good winger, who has strong numbers etched in the book of NHL statistics, not the projections of optimistic fans. Adam Fox is an outrageously good offensive defenseman, right this second. Shesterkin is killing it behind a shoddy defense, not "could," "is". Lafreniere has a better chance at being good, and great, than any of those Kings prospects. Every single one of them could get a good deal better based on their age and experience level. Tyler Myers had a very nice rookie year next to Tallinder. Tyler Myers never once had the impact on a game that Fox does every single game I've ever seen him play in. Fox will finish higher in the Norris race this year than Myers ever has or ever will Eichel's line is not a "given" for anything, Eichel has been on a line that has scored more goals than they've been scored on while on the ice exactly 1 season in his career, and that number was slipping quickly towards the end of that season and probably would have wound up negative had covid not shortened it. Even if you don't like the positional balance of the return, the sheer volume of very good assets would let you fill the center gap fairly easily. Yeah, you won't get a stud 1C back, but you'll have a better team than you did before if you have some ounce of confidence just because of how lopsided the trade is I don’t want to nitpick, it’s a strong post. The “probably would have wound up negative thing”, though - we don’t know that but say it’s true: we know Jack wasn’t himself to end that season. Before he got hurt (a massive concern, tbf, and it adds to your overall point) he was simply dominant. I just don’t want to parse the one season he had that was to my mind indisputably electric. And it was his most recent one, and it happened around the age where the MacKinnon’s of the world take off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I'd be looking to either the aforementioned Barkov or could Adams get Barzal plus... from the Isles? I love Barzals play and think he would be a great fit with the young players we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Curt said: I’m not of the opinion that Eichel either should be or must not be traded. He is a great talent, no doubt, but I get none of the feeling that he brings a great deal to the team beyond that. I don’t mean to sound terribly harsh, but I just don’t see him as a team centerpiece or leader who binds the group together. I don’t get the impression that everyone would be emotionally crushed without him. Likewise, I find that I don’t personally carry any special feelings of affection towards him. I’m happy when he does great things on the ice, but beyond that, I don’t fine any particular reasons to like him. I’m not emotionally attached to him. Consequently, I’ll judge any Eichel trade on its merits. I feel like I’m more willing than most to consider the idea. Can you explain what it is that gives you the feeling that Eichel isn’t a leader that binds the group together? Something free of variables like, say, the roster around him being terrible, or a bad coach behind the bench? What specifically is Jack lacking? Is it his skating style? Curious. I certainly see the passion all the time, more than any other player here, what with all those smashed sticks. Based on interviews his maturity is much improved too. And we can’t forget those snaps we sometimes see of him, say, coaching up Dahlin on the bench with the iPad.. 10 hours ago, Brawndo said: Still no desire to trade Jack, however If you want to trade with another franchise that needs a shakeup. Calgary looks to be an ideal candidate and has supposedly called on Jack. The starting point is Tkatchuk, Lindholm and what else? Hell no And that trade is the best of the bunch in this thread, which is truly filled with stinkers honest to goodness stinkers @dudacek 10 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: Well you can always relay stuff you get and/or other assets into centers. I agree you aren't getting a franchise C this summer if you move Jack, (barring a weird Barkov swap), but if you don't think we could get Tkachuk and Lindholm for Jack, then I don't think we have any common ground for Jack's value in this discussion. We are playing without Jack right now and doing well, sure, but even that is only winning us 5 of 10 games in the most charitable bunch you can grab, and that's with regression to the statistical mean in a lot of categories - we are regularly getting severely out-chanced in these games and over the course of a full season would not win a lot of games even with the improvement in individuals within the team. Then you'd be furious at the GM for having the gall to not make big changes and stick with status quo, by the way. This conversation is probably pointless though if you really truly believe that we can't upgrade this current roster skeleton playing tomorrow in an appreciable way with an Eichel return. I have no idea why you're so down on that potential return You’ve taken a couple understandable shots at the logic of GAs posts in this thread, but the bolded is a bit of a doozy itself. No self respecting Sabres fan can look at our *complete inability* to add centres, for years, and suggest parlaying received or current assets into good centres is something at all likely Edited April 17, 2021 by Thorny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Brawndo said: The Sabres would have to add Are you kidding me? (Edit - Note to self from future Thorny, finish thread before responding) Edited April 17, 2021 by Thorny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: Are you kidding me? It was Sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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