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My plan for the Sabres  - Summer of Matt

Sign UFA Matt Duchene, even if they have to overpay a little to get the deal done and draft Matt Boldy.

You would then be set at Center for the next 6 - 7 years with Eichel, Duchene, Mitts and Asplund

Your top 9 next year would look like

Olofsson   Eichel  Reinhart
Sheary      Duchene     *RW aquired in Risto Trade
ERod          Mitts        Nylander (?)

This assumes that Skinner walks of course. Though I think you have the cap space to sign him and Duchene

late next year Boldy comes to the team and replaces Sheary on Line 2.

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On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 7:31 AM, sweetlou said:

Five questions for the off season fans wish list.

1. Coach?

2. #2 center, how obtained?

3. Jeff Skinner resigned?

4. Risto back or traded?

5. Biggest UFA signing? 

 

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 7:31 AM, sweetlou said:

Five questions for the off season fans wish list.

1. Coach?

2. #2 center, how obtained?

3. Jeff Skinner resigned?

4. Risto back or traded?

5. Biggest UFA signing? 

1.  Probably Keefe.  If not, hopefully a top tier one gets shockingly canned out of nowhere.  If that doesn't pan out either, sure take a shot on the Swede.

2.  Hayes via FA.  He can be the 2 until Mittelstadtis ready for that role, then seemlessly slide to 3 until Asplund, Davidsson, or other's ready for that role.  Also, wouldn't cost Ristolainen, which a trade for the 2C would almost definitely cost as part of the package.

3. & 4. Yes to both being back.  (Expecting Risto to be traded though.)

5.  The aforementioned Hayes.  Also want a 2RW to be brought in via (directly or indirectly) moving Bogosian, Scandella, Nylander, & any other Amerk not named Olaffson, Pilut, or Asplund.

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4 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

My plan for the Sabres  - Summer of Matt

Sign UFA Matt Duchene, even if they have to overpay a little to get the deal done and draft Matt Boldy.

You would then be set at Center for the next 6 - 7 years with Eichel, Duchene, Mitts and Asplund

Your top 9 next year would look like

Olofsson   Eichel  Reinhart
Sheary      Duchene     *RW aquired in Risto Trade
ERod          Mitts        Nylander (?)

This assumes that Skinner walks of course. Though I think you have the cap space to sign him and Duchene

late next year Boldy comes to the team and replaces Sheary on Line 2.

I like a lot of what is in here, but we know this team was in desperate need of help even with Skinner in the lineup. Losing Skinner and acquiring Duchene keeps us more less at the status quo. I suppose it depends on who that RW acquired for Risto is, whether or not Botterill supplements the forwards in an adequate manor. It would need to be a really good player, and he'd need to add a pretty decent player on the blue line to replace Ristolainen. 

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1 hour ago, Taro T said:

 

1.  Probably Keefe.  If not, hopefully a top tier one gets shockingly canned out of nowhere.  If that doesn't pan out either, sure take a shot on the Swede.

2.  Hayes via FA.  He can be the 2 until Mittelstadtis ready for that role, then seemlessly slide to 3 until Asplund, Davidsson, or other's ready for that role.  Also, wouldn't cost Ristolainen, which a trade for the 2C would almost definitely cost as part of the package.

3. & 4. Yes to both being back.  (Expecting Risto to be traded though.)

5.  The aforementioned Hayes.  Also want a 2RW to be brought in via (directly or indirectly) moving Bogosian, Scandella, Nylander, & any other Amerk not named Olaffson, Pilut, or Asplund.

Can sliding a 7-8 million dollar player who scores 46 points a year to 3C be considered seamless? 

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45 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Can sliding a 7-8 million dollar player who scores 46 points a year to 3C be considered seamless? 

Considering the issues w/ the Sabres & getting guys slotted properly the past several years, touche.

Considering teams have won Stanley Cups w/ way overpaid 3rd liners (hello Kings fans, say hello to your captain ;)), they should be able to do that & then the 3rd line can both check & contribute offensively & the 4th line can be strictly checking (like the defacto 3rd line by ice time currently is), be a true kids line, or be a hybrid where special team specialists roll out every so often waiting for them to be used as the role players they are, or a combo.

Mittelstadt likely wouldn't be due really big bucks until Hayes would be about ready to be jettisoned.  And should Hayes get even more than you've suggested, move to plan B or C.  (Really don't want them dropping to plan D as that's how you end up with Sobotka getting real minutes.)

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17 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Considering the issues w/ the Sabres & getting guys slotted properly the past several years, touche.

Considering teams have won Stanley Cups w/ way overpaid 3rd liners (hello Kings fans, say hello to your captain ;)), they should be able to do that & then the 3rd line can both check & contribute offensively & the 4th line can be strictly checking (like the defacto 3rd line by ice time currently is), be a true kids line, or be a hybrid where special team specialists roll out every so often waiting for them to be used as the role players they are, or a combo.

Mittelstadt likely wouldn't be due really big bucks until Hayes would be about ready to be jettisoned.  And should Hayes get even more than you've suggested, move to plan B or C.  (Really don't want them dropping to plan D as that's how you end up with Sobotka getting real minutes.)

If we keep Skinner, and add that bonafide top 6 winger you've mentioned, I could be persuaded to believe Hayes represents a satisfactory add to the C position. But if either of those other two doesn't happen, I don't think it's enough. I'm wary of $ either way, but I suppose it's not my job to worry about the cap. 

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31 minutes ago, Thorny said:

If we keep Skinner, and add that bonafide top 6 winger you've mentioned, I could be persuaded to believe Hayes represents a satisfactory add to the C position. But if either of those other two doesn't happen, I don't think it's enough. I'm wary of $ either way, but I suppose it's not my job to worry about the cap. 

Am really expecting Mittelstadt to be ready to be a 2C sometime early in the '20-'21 season.  And especially with him likely tearing up the AHL (along w/ Dahlin) while waiting for the lockout to end, that'll likely be the precursor to his coming out party.

So, assuming they have 4 wingers that belong top 6, then the coach will really FINALLY have some flexibility with his lineup when they start playing again after the lockout.  And the player the Sabres lose to Seattle the following summer could possibly end up Ristolainen or Borgen.

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2 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Am really expecting Mittelstadt to be ready to be a 2C sometime early in the '20-'21 season.  And especially with him likely tearing up the AHL (along w/ Dahlin) while waiting for the lockout to end, that'll likely be the precursor to his coming out party.

So, assuming they have 4 wingers that belong top 6, then the coach will really FINALLY have some flexibility with his lineup when they start playing again after the lockout.  And the player the Sabres lose to Seattle the following summer could possibly end up Ristolainen or Borgen.

Oh man, tell me Eichel isn't UFA two years after this coming lockout, after we come out of it on a trajectory like 05?!

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5 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Oh man, tell me Eichel isn't UFA two years after this coming lockout, after we come out of it on a trajectory like 05?!

Only if theleague voids all 6th-8th years on contracts.  That's not happening regardless of whether the age for UFA / years of service to be eligible falls.

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5 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Only if theleague voids all 6th-8th years on contracts.  That's not happening regardless of whether the age for UFA / years of service to be eligible falls.

Ya was just kidding about that one. 

So Reinhart is 5 years into his required 7 at the time the potential lockout starts. Years of service falls by 2, and we therefore lose him as he walks in immediate UFA. lol

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For 2018-9, my wish list was:

Item 1: Vladimir Sobotka does not play.

Item 2: Better goalie coach to improve the goaltending

Item 3: Improve the hockey IQ of at least one of the top 3 defence pairings

Item 4: 4 competent NHL lines on the big club

Item 5: at least 1 line in the minors and 1 defence pairing capable of playing in the NHL

Sadly, that looks like my wish-list to start this season as well...

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5 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Ya was just kidding about that one. 

So Reinhart is 5 years into his required 7 at the time the potential lockout starts. Years of service falls by 2, and we therefore lose him as he walks in immediate UFA. lol

Pretty sure the players would have to drop their share to 45% or less to get 2 years knocked off UFA status.

Fortunately.

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I think JBotts getting the right players in here this off season is almost more important then who the coach is.  If you look at teams the last five years, coaches can only coach players that are good enough to play any system.  Bad coaches make players look bad. Good coaches make mediocre players play better.  Its still ultimately up to the players how hard they want to play.  Having the right style of players that play hard every shift is more important than a skilled player who shows up once every 5th shift and goes in streaks as far as scoring. 

Would I rather have Sheary with his speed and tenacity, or Reinhart and his I play for me attitude?

Would I rather have ERod and his effort, or Larsson/Sobotka who have mental lapses on defensive assignments and always seem to be moving in slow motion?

I think players like William Karlsson, Kasperi Kapanen, and Michael Ferland top my list for this off season.

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Watching the Caps--Canes game last night I caught myself thinking that I wanted a team like the Canes that played like their hair was on fire, especially in OT. Their effort was outstanding and as much as I have disliked them for the last dozen years or so, I felt it would be a travesty if that effort didn't end in a win. The head coach needs to be a leader that inspires. Game planning and in-game adjustments are of course important, but pale in comparison to all out effort. If only we could insert Ted Nolan's heart and Scotty Bowman's brain into our new coach. Ted Bowman is on my wish list.

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My new wish is actually hiring a solid HC candidate and not retreating to some inbred promotion from within the organization.

The longer this thing stalls, the less likely we will see the former.  Or so I fear.

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said:

My new wish is actually hiring a solid HC candidate and not retreating to some inbred promotion from within the organization.

The longer this thing stalls, the less likely we will see the former.  Or so I fear.

Is it more likely we get someone from outside the longer this drags on because there will be less teams in playoffs with more candidates available? 

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6 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Is it more likely we get someone from outside the longer this drags on because there will be less teams in playoffs with more candidates available? 

Shh... The people who want to interpret every Sabre move or non-move as a negative are winning.

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On 4/22/2019 at 11:52 AM, Crusader1969 said:

My plan for the Sabres  - Summer of Matt

Sign UFA Matt Duchene, even if they have to overpay a little to get the deal done and draft Matt Boldy.

You would then be set at Center for the next 6 - 7 years with Eichel, Duchene, Mitts and Asplund

Your top 9 next year would look like

Olofsson   Eichel  Reinhart
Sheary      Duchene     *RW aquired in Risto Trade
ERod          Mitts        Nylander (?)

This assumes that Skinner walks of course. Though I think you have the cap space to sign him and Duchene

late next year Boldy comes to the team and replaces Sheary on Line 2.

You are going to be run out of the rink come playoff time with that roster (if you make the playoffs). Eichel can hold his own as a skill forward, but we need some size up front. Some grit. That is a really really soft line up you want. 

I'm not going to get anything I want, but I'd want to transform this line up and the whole philosophy. 

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