Sabel79 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Might as well start a thread. Polls closed here in Virginia at 7. At 7:00:01 Tim Kaine announced to have held his US Senate seat against neoconfederate Corey Stewart. Good start. Tonight should be interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) I'll call NY27 for Collins right now. He's 4 points up with over 2/3 reporting. F*ck, people are stupid. They had the perfect pro-gun, pro-little guy, even pro-farmer candidate in McMurray. And they're going to elect a multi-millionaire who will spend most of his term fighting 11 felony counts. Edited November 7, 2018 by Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Democrats now projected to take the House. GOP keeps the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sabel79 said: Democrats now projected to take the House. GOP keeps the Senate. Yeah, I think we knew that in January, though. Not a knock on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sabel79 said: Democrats now projected to take the House. GOP keeps the Senate. The macro results are matching what was expected. Dare I say, pretty boring. The political science models, poll-based models, and expert models (such as Cook Political, not dim pundit commentary) all agreed this is what we were most likely to see. If you want to get into "interpreting" the results (you should not get into this on election night or in the immediate aftermath, but it's inevitable anyway), both Democrats and Republicans can spin things their way. Liberals will enjoy the upcoming subpoena bonanza from the House, conservatives will enjoy continuing to stack the judiciary with conservative judges, and all eyes will (quite prematurely) turn to 2020. 3 minutes ago, Eleven said: Yeah, I think we knew that in January, though. Not a knock on you. You said what I just did, only much more concisely. Edit: As an aside, ballot wording in Ohio is abominable. "Vote for not more than 1." There isn't a single good reason why this isn't "Vote for 1" or "Select 1." Edited November 7, 2018 by TrueBlueGED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: The macro results are matching what was expected. Dare I say, pretty boring. The political science models, poll-based models, and expert models (such as Cook Political, not dim pundit commentary) all agreed this is what we were most likely to see. If you want to get into "interpreting" the results (you should not get into this on election night or in the immediate aftermath, but it's inevitable anyway), both Democrats and Republicans can spin things their way. Liberals will enjoy the upcoming subpoena bonanza from the House, conservatives will enjoy continuing to stack the judiciary with conservative judges, and all eyes will (quite prematurely) turn to 2020. You said what I just did, only much more concisely. Edit: As an aside, ballot wording in Ohio is abominable. "Vote for not more than 1." There isn't a single good reason why this isn't "Vote for 1" or "Select 1." If someone can't figure out what that means then burn it down, anyways and God bless us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, SwampD said: If someone can't figure out what that means then burn it down, anyways and God bless us all. It's not a matter of "figuring it out." People are in a hurry and try to get in/out ASAP. It would be easy to misread if you're in a hurry. The purpose of ballot design should be to accurately capture the intent of the voter. The Ohio ballot design fails that test. It's like designing multiple choice questions for an exam: you should design questions that measure learning, not any kind of "gotcha" question formatting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 My most hated night of the year.... It's almost over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Eleven said: Yeah, I think we knew that in January, though. Not a knock on you. True, but if recent history is to be any guide, always prepare for the worst. You’ll only ever be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, LTS said: My most hated night of the year.... It's almost over. My favorite night of the year! Actually, second favorite. The winner? Thanksgiving. A day full of beer, food, and football cannot be topped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, LTS said: My most hated night of the year.... It's almost over. You started this club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, TrueBlueGED said: It's not a matter of "figuring it out." People are in a hurry and try to get in/out ASAP. It would be easy to misread if you're in a hurry. The purpose of ballot design should be to accurately capture the intent of the voter. The Ohio ballot design fails that test. It's like designing multiple choice questions for an exam: you should design questions that measure learning, not any kind of "gotcha" question formatting. This is rather reminiscent of the “butterfly ballots” that caused all the olds in FL to vote for Buchanan in 2000, thus putting you-know-who in the White House. All sorts of f***ery required to keep them in business, been going on for years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sabel79 said: True, but if recent history is to be any guide, always prepare for the worst. You’ll only ever be pleasantly surprised. I'm only good at three things: Practicing law, predicting elections, and something you'll never know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eleven said: I'm only good at three things: Practicing law, predicting elections, and something you'll never know about. Your alcohol intake is well-documented on this forum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Eleven said: I'm only good at three things: Practicing law, predicting elections, and something you'll never know about. Hmmmmm. Bagpipes? Flatfoot dancing? Serial killer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: My favorite night of the year! Actually, second favorite. The winner? Thanksgiving. A day full of beer, food, and football cannot be topped. Too bad turkey is trash and the rest of the Thanksgiving meal is average at best (though the rest of the day with family, fall, football is indeed so pleasant) I poked my head into politics on the internet for the first time since the semester started really (knowledge of the Kavanaugh stuff came because it all happened when my family was here visiting and had to put it on TV lol). Tonight seems pretty par for the course, no? House switching sides in the first midterm of a president's tenure? I feel like both liberals and conservatives are fairly happy and slightly disappointed? It's quite the House gain for the dems, but they don't get any senate action when the court seems to be the topic that rules the day. Vice versa for republicans. Idk what I'm talking about tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Eleven said: I'm only good at three things: Practicing law, predicting elections, and something you'll never know about. It's cosplay, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Bocce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SwampD said: It's cosplay, isn't it? If by cosplay, you mean ***** my **** ****ly *** a ***** and ****** to ******, while ******ing a ****** and ******* a *******, yep. Yes, I realize I just set myself up for the worst SabreSpace MadLibs thing ever. Edited November 7, 2018 by Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, Randall Flagg said: Too bad turkey is trash and the rest of the Thanksgiving meal is average at best (though the rest of the day with family, fall, football is indeed so pleasant) I poked my head into politics on the internet for the first time since the semester started really (knowledge of the Kavanaugh stuff came because it all happened when my family was here visiting and had to put it on TV lol). Tonight seems pretty par for the course, no? House switching sides in the first midterm of a president's tenure? I feel like both liberals and conservatives are fairly happy and slightly disappointed? It's quite the House gain for the dems, but they don't get any senate action when the court seems to be the topic that rules the day. Vice versa for republicans. Idk what I'm talking about tho The president's party almost always loses seats in Congress in the midterms, unless their approval is in the 60%+ range. Whether that results in either chamber flipping really depends on the distribution of seats before the election. Republicans gaining in the Senate is an outlier result in general (both chambers usually shift in the same direction), but looking at the map and projections beforehand, is hardly surprising in this particular election. Anyway, like I said up-thread, pretty boring night overall if you're looking at control of Congress. However, there have been a number of interesting changes at the state level, particularly with certain ballot measures. Voter ID laws have passed in a few states, NC voters rejected efforts to limit the governor's appointment powers, bi-partisan and non-partisan redistricting commissions have been adopted, Florida eliminated felon disenfranchisement (affects 1 million+ citizens), and Michigan passed a whopper of a voting reform package: automatic voter registration, same-day registration, no-excuse absentee balloting, and straight-ticket voting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Your alcohol intake is well-documented on this forum ? Ah, not so much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 I voted for the first time tonight. Probably not something I should admit, but there you have it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: The president's party almost always loses seats in Congress in the midterms, unless their approval is in the 60%+ range. Whether that results in either chamber flipping really depends on the distribution of seats before the election. Republicans gaining in the Senate is an outlier result in general (both chambers usually shift in the same direction), but looking at the map and projections beforehand, is hardly surprising in this particular election. Anyway, like I said up-thread, pretty boring night overall if you're looking at control of Congress. However, there have been a number of interesting changes at the state level, particularly with certain ballot measures. Voter ID laws have passed in a few states, NC voters rejected efforts to limit the governor's appointment powers, bi-partisan and non-partisan redistricting commissions have been adopted, Florida eliminated felon disenfranchisement (affects 1 million+ citizens), and Michigan passed a whopper of a voting reform package: automatic voter registration, same-day registration, no-excuse absentee balloting, and straight-ticket voting. Now this is good, juicy stuff. Unlike the biggest myth ever created, that turkey can be a juicy meat, and tastes good Anywho, peace out politics, until 2020!! The start of a glorious, peaceful, and quiet stretch of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 I'm starting to see reports that McMurray conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Anywho, peace out politics, until 2020!! The start of a glorious, peaceful, and quiet stretch of time Smdh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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