LastPommerFan Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 so you add up the bonus and all the years and that equals $40M, then divide by 10 and you get the cap hit. The sum of the salaries is only $27M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacpie Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 I'd like to chime in and say WOW. Never been this excited about my team. Man, tomorrow is going to be fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Dryden Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 so you add up the bonus and all the years and that equals $40M, then divide by 10 and you get the cap hit. The sum of the salaries is only $27M. right, and the bonus is $13M, for $40M total. present value of money makes this much richer, however, than a straight $4M a year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 I sure hope Ehrhoff is good. I know he must be because there are already 27 pages on him, but I can honestly say that I have absolutely no opinion of him. I can't remember ever having seen him on the ice. I know I have, but I can't remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 right, and the bonus is $13M, for $40M total. present value of money makes this much richer, however, than a straight $4M a year.. and I'm sure the business man pegula and the numbers man Regier will be giving Mr. Richards and his agent a lesson in the "true cost of capital" in about 14 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 I sure hope Ehrhoff is good. I know he must be because there are already 27 pages on him, but I can honestly say that I have absolutely no opinion of him. I can't remember ever having seen him on the ice. I know I have, but I can't remember it. That's usually the sign of a good D-man. But I think the reason he's unfamiliar is that he played out West, when we were sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 thanks for the clarification on the numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Dryden Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 and I'm sure the business man pegula and the numbers man Regier will be giving Mr. Richards and his agent a lesson in the "true cost of capital" in about 14 hours. Pegula's vast liquidity is what makes the difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFan526 Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 so does his signing bonus count against the Cap or not? Yes. The total cap hit including the signing bonus is $4M per year. $18 million paid in the first two years, the signing bonuses are paid immediately and the salary is paid out during the course of the regular season. The total monies owed Ehrhoff is $40 million over the 10 years, hence the cap hit, which would include the signing bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Heaven Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 I'd like to chime in and say WOW. Never been this excited about my team. Man, tomorrow is going to be fun! You're not the only one. Having an owner that has money and is smart enough to leave hockey operations to the guys who know what they're doing takes being a fan to whole other level. I will be honest I have never looked forward to free agency EVER for the Sabres..... We have a chnace to land the biggest FA in the market???? Wow, NOW I have a reason to be excited about FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverPowerYou Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 With these two signings I believe we can get any UFA or RFA we want, as long as they don't hate Buffalo and if they want to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Pegula's vast liquidity is what makes the difference... between the contracts and the amerks and the renovations, he might end up losing like 30 million next year. He can only do that for like 100 more seasons, then he'll be out of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 With these two signings I believe we can get any UFA or RFA we want, as long as they don't hate Money! Fixed it for you :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Dryden Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 between the contracts and the amerks and the renovations, he might end up losing like 30 million next year. He can only do that for like 100 more seasons, then he'll be out of cash. 5% interest on his $3B alone is $150M annually... he'll be fine for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 5% interest on his $3B alone is $150M annually... he'll be fine for a long time sweet. how do we make him immortal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightrider Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 "My goal is to win the Stanley Cup, and after the offer I received from Buffalo, I believe this is the best place to make it happen." http://www.nhl.com/i...od-rr-headlines Has ANYONE ever said that about the Bills OR Sabres.... EVER? I've never been this excited about an upcoming season in my life .... this is GREAT. The only thing that came to mind is Bryce Paup coming to Buffalo. This is far better than that, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braedon Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 I sure hope Ehrhoff is good. I know he must be because there are already 27 pages on him, but I can honestly say that I have absolutely no opinion of him. I can't remember ever having seen him on the ice. I know I have, but I can't remember it. Granted he played with the Sedins, but he's a lethal setup man on the PP. I'm really excited to see his production injected there. Aside from the playoffs, he's had a pristine +/- over the past few years. The more I think about it, I'm really psyched about the contract. It makes a ton of sense, as it frees up the cap hit when he's in his mid 30s. If we need to trade him: his $1mil salary will count for $4mil against the cap, which isn't a ton of money 6-8 years from now, and I bet there are a ton of cap floor teams that would eat that up. They don't have to pay him a ton, yet he helps them reach the floor 4 fold. I know he played on an offensive juggernaut, but think about what he could do in the East vs. West, not to mention Lindy's system of carrying the puck into the offensive zone. Better than Soupy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdexchange Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Holy crap today was fun. :clapping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted July 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 BillHoppeSabres Bill Hoppe #Sabres No contract was discussed with Christian Ehrhoff until he decided he wanted to come to #Buffalo. 5 minutes ago via web Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted July 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 From EJ Hradek Sorry Sabres fans, spending 40 million on a second pair D doesn't have me thinking Stanley Cup. Then again ... #notmymoney! That's funny... on June 28th Hradek called Ehrhoff easily the best UFA defenseman. He wasn't damning with faint praise, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 That's funny... on June 28th Hradek called Ehrhoff easily the best UFA defenseman. He wasn't damning with faint praise, either. You do realize that is not a contradiction. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Holy Crap I go take my son to see robots rip each other apart and everyone gets GOD BLESS TERRY PEGULA AND GOD BLESS HIS MOUNTAINS OF CASH!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted July 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 You do realize that is not a contradiction. :blink: I said "he wasn't damning with faint praise, either"--- he was gushing about Ehrhoff. The contract isn't outrageous in any respect and he was certainly getting "1st pair" minutes with Vancouver this past season--- 23:59/game, second only to Alexander Edler's 24:17/game and Edler played 28 fewer games than Ehrhoff. He'll only be a 2nd pair d-man in Buffalo because the top pairing will more than likely be Myers-Regehr. I don't exactly love Ehrhoff but it's definitely a bit contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 I said "he wasn't damning with faint praise, either"--- he was gushing about Ehrhoff. The contract isn't outrageous in any respect and he was certainly getting "1st pair" minutes with Vancouver this past season--- 23:59/game, second only to Alexander Edler's 24:17/game and Edler played 28 fewer games than Ehrhoff. He'll only be a 2nd pair d-man in Buffalo because the top pairing will more than likely be Myers-Regehr. So, yeah--- it's a bit contradictory. He can be all what was said about him and still not worth $18 mil over two years. For the record, I love the signing and the contract. I have been banging the drum about adding top end talent for a while. I guess that gets lost in the madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 He can be all what was said about him and still not worth $18 mil over two years. For the record, I love the signing and the contract. I have been banging the drum about adding top end talent for a while. I guess that gets lost in the madness. This thread is about Ehrhoff, not you. :nana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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