Sterling Archer Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Drew's gonna get a payday and go back to the coaster we all came to know. He only seems to care about hockey when money is on the line. Otherwise, he's trying to get through Raining Blood on expert on Guitar Hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Drew's gonna get a payday and go back to the coaster we all came to know. He only seems to care about hockey when money is on the line. Otherwise, he's trying to get through Raining Blood on expert on Guitar Hero. when has money been on the line?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Based on history (which is the foundation of salary arbitration) this matters significantly less than the per game output. I don't like it any better than you, but it is the way it works until they change the language in the CBA as far as admissible evidence and method. Danny Briere: 58 points in 48 games --> $5 million His previous best was 65 in a full 82. That's all the evidence you need of over-inflated arbitration rulings based off of projected points. And we now have 5 extra years of inflated salaries to deal with when it comes to Stafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacollin Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Well put. Tim thomas might be the closest, although he did just have an off year last year. Still, not that close to the other goalies' level. Given Millers personality I think he will work out to improve his game more this offseason. I think he assumed he was elite and didn't need to work at it. Gotta think he was disappointed with his numbers and all the chatter. We talk about others potential, the possibility of a bounce back season for Miller is seldom discussed in this debate. But I've been wrong before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 when has money been on the line?? " Minnesota is where I live...with friends and family here in the stands... lotta money on the board", an enthusiastic Drew Stafford commented to MSGs Kevin Sylvester in the post overtime interview. Staff had just come home to Minneapolis, and dropped the overtime GWG on all of the folks that he lives amongst during his Summers away from the rink. http://www.sportsnipe.com/main_sportsnews/4165040/garth-money-on-board.html I'll refrain from speculating on what he meant by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 " Minnesota is where I live...with friends and family here in the stands... lotta money on the board", an enthusiastic Drew Stafford commented to MSGs Kevin Sylvester in the post overtime interview. Staff had just come home to Minneapolis, and dropped the overtime GWG on all of the folks that he lives amongst during his Summers away from the rink. http://www.sportsnipe.com/main_sportsnews/4165040/garth-money-on-board.html I'll refrain from speculating on what he meant by this. I take it that you completely missed the discussion about this earlier this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Drew's gonna get a payday and go back to the coaster we all came to know. He only seems to care about hockey when money is on the line. Otherwise, he's trying to get through Raining Blood on expert on Guitar Hero. If Darcy signs Stafford before arbitration - I just hope there is no NTC or the like included on that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 If Darcy signs Stafford before arbitration - I just hope there is no NTC or the like included on that contract. you're post teleported me to the edge of the top of a tall building with busy traffic below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=366668 Rafalski is retiring and Lidstrom might. Even if Lidstrom stays it leaves a big gap on detroits roster... meaning they are now more than ever in play for some of those prime ufa defense out there plus might be interested in some younger def. This complicates the sabres getting quality UFA def a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 " Minnesota is where I live...with friends and family here in the stands... lotta money on the board", an enthusiastic Drew Stafford commented to MSGs Kevin Sylvester in the post overtime interview. Staff had just come home to Minneapolis, and dropped the overtime GWG on all of the folks that he lives amongst during his Summers away from the rink. http://www.sportsnipe.com/main_sportsnews/4165040/garth-money-on-board.html I'll refrain from speculating on what he meant by this. It's a charity thing that you are refraining on speculating about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I take it that you completely missed the discussion about this earlier this season? Quite possibly. I take it you completely missed the part where I said I would refrain from speculating on what he meant? I don't like the guy, but that doesn't I mean I'm ready to come out and claim he's saying something this stupid in public, for the very simple reason that I don't really care. I just thought the "money on the line" and "money on the board" statements looked similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 It's a charity thing that you are refraining on speculating about. Thanks for clarifying. Like I said above, I didn't really care at the time, and these days nothing's going on, so I dig out ancient stuff like this. *edit I think people here know well enough that if I truly believed he was talking about his next contract, I would've come out and said just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 What i'm saying is, Stafford only seems to play well in a contract year or after a good benching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donteatyellowsnow Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Given Millers personality I think he will work out to improve his game more this offseason. I think he assumed he was elite and didn't need to work at it. Gotta think he was disappointed with his numbers and all the chatter. We talk about others potential, the possibility of a bounce back season for Miller is seldom discussed in this debate.But I've been wrong before... That is because last year was a typical year for Miller. The prior year, the Veznia year was the exception, so far throughout his career. I really wish people would stop making Miller out to be some GOD or something and more than he really is. He has had ONE outstanding year and a bunch of mediocre years. Geeze! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 What i'm saying is, Stafford only seems to play well in a contract year or after a good benching. Or after an injury layoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 That is because last year was a typical year for Miller. The prior year, the Veznia year was the exception, so far throughout his career. I really wish people would stop making Miller out to be some GOD or something and more than he really is. He has had ONE outstanding year and a bunch of mediocre years. Geeze! To be fair, he had consistantly improved since he took over as the true #1 starter in 2007. This year was the first year that he went backwards. Next year will show whether he can regroup and improve, or if he will fade like so many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 That is because last year was a typical year for Miller. The prior year, the Veznia year was the exception, so far throughout his career. I really wish people would stop making Miller out to be some GOD or something and more than he really is. He has had ONE outstanding year and a bunch of mediocre years. Geeze! In the voice of Andre the Giant..."I don't think mediocre means what you think it means." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 In the voice of Andre the Giant..."I don't think mediocre means what you think it means." That's Mandy Patinkin's line! :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 That's Mandy Patinkin's line! :angry: ......I'll sit 2 minutes for bad Princess Bride allusion. :bag: <= me. whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 ......I'll sit 2 minutes for bad Princess Bride allusion. :bag: <= me. whoops. No big deal. I can see how you would mix the two up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 No big deal. I can see how you would mix the two up. :lol: at least I didn't confuse Star Wars' droids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donteatyellowsnow Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 To be fair, he had consistantly improved since he took over as the true #1 starter in 2007. This year was the first year that he went backwards. Next year will show whether he can regroup and improve, or if he will fade like so many others. No he did not, and he was the full time starter, starting in 05-06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Ok, sure, 48 games sounds about full time. He didn't really take the reigns completely until Marty was traded. His GAA went down every year starting from the presidents trophy year, and his SV% improved from 07-08 through 09-10. Sounds like he was getting better to me, but maybe I'm just so in love with him that I can't see past the statistics that all goalies are graded against. Including this season he was 6th on the active list (7th all-time) for career sv% (IMO the best way to judge a goalie). So yeah...Mediocre and one off year where he won the Vezina and Olympic MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Ok, sure, 48 games sounds about full time. He didn't really take the reigns completely until Marty was traded. His GAA went down every year starting from the presidents trophy year, and his SV% improved from 07-08 through 09-10. Sounds like he was getting better to me, but maybe I'm just so in love with him that I can't see past the statistics that all goalies are graded against. Including this season he was 6th on the active list (7th all-time) for career sv% (IMO the best way to judge a goalie). So yeah...Mediocre and one off year where he won the Vezina and Olympic MVP. And.... Boom goes the dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Mediocre is a stretch. But his career average is 2.57 and .915. Last season he was 2.59 and .916. He was about at his average for number of shots faced, wins, minutes played, and shutouts too. Sounds like a pretty typical season by Ryan to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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