PASabreFan Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Sid has said he won't apologize to anyone on Detroit for being late to the handshake line. Is it not the responsibility of the captain to lead the line? Or am I making that up? His failure to apologize will allow the legend of Crosby the Jerk to only grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Sid has said he won't apologize to anyone on Detroit for being late to the handshake line. Is it not the responsibility of the captain to lead the line? Or am I making that up? His failure to apologize will allow the legend of Crosby the Jerk to only grow. Why should he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ForTripping Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Who cares, he was celebrating his cup victory then he thinks > "oh wait I need to shake Lidstroms hand" I don't think so, yet more of the big fish whining in the little pond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Why should he? What if the entire Pittsburgh team just stayed in the corner celebrating for 10 minutes, while the Wings waited, humiliated? Would that be OK? Crosby is the leader and should have broken away and led the team to the handshake line. His age and first Cup are mitigating factors. He should call Lidstrom and apologize. Heck, he just won the Cup. Graciousness should be flowing from him like champagne. Refusing to say you're sorry when you've made a clear breach of hockey etiquette will dog him for a while. I always wondered why so many hate Crosby. I figured it was just the "hate the best" deal. Now I'm seeing why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 What if the entire Pittsburgh team just stayed in the corner celebrating for 10 minutes, while the Wings waited, humiliated? Would that be OK? Crosby is the leader and should have broken away and led the team to the handshake line. His age and first Cup are mitigating factors. He should call Lidstrom and apologize. Heck, he just won the Cup. Graciousness should be flowing from him like champagne. Refusing to say you're sorry when you've made a clear breach of hockey etiquette will dog him for a while. I always wondered why so many hate Crosby. I figured it was just the "hate the best" deal. Now I'm seeing why. calm down isn't it time for your stiz bath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 That little bottle of hand sanitizer he was breaking out between each handshake was way over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I thought the handshake line started pretty quickly. Who decides when it starts anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Refusing to say you're sorry when you've made a clear breach of hockey etiquette will dog him for a while. I always wondered why so many hate Crosby. I figured it was just the "hate the best" deal. Now I'm seeing why. How hard would it be to say, "I was caught up with celebrating, I meant no disrespect to the Red Wings, the City of Detroit, and most of all to the traditions of hockey." Maybe the NHL wants to paint him as a bad-boy or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Take a look at who brought this up, Kris Draper. He's been around forever. This is another sign of the slow death of many of the traditions in this game. So many of the young guys don't look at the game the same way as they did in the past. Head hunting and diving is through the roof. Say what you want about the code, but there has been plenty of talk about that disappearing too. Players don't respect each other anymore. I think this handshake incident is being overhyped, but you're only going to hear about these kind of things more and more moving forward. I guess there is a new NHL after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 What if the entire Pittsburgh team just stayed in the corner celebrating for 10 minutes, while the Wings waited, humiliated? Would that be OK? Crosby is the leader and should have broken away and led the team to the handshake line. His age and first Cup are mitigating factors. He should call Lidstrom and apologize. Heck, he just won the Cup. Graciousness should be flowing from him like champagne. Refusing to say you're sorry when you've made a clear breach of hockey etiquette will dog him for a while. I always wondered why so many hate Crosby. I figured it was just the "hate the best" deal. Now I'm seeing why. I'm not sure he broke etiquette..he was doing an interview seconds later. I think if he is getting shuffled around by the league for TV interviews. .. the league tell the losing team to stick around or at least delay the handshake.......they wanted Crosby not Max Talbot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Crosby should have apologized. It was a long and a great hard fought series. Pittsburgh had crazy parties planned for the next week and they had all the time in the world to celebrate, the least Crosby could do is go to the line and shake the hands of Nik Lidstrom and Kris Draper.... because both of those guys did last year when Crosby was in near tears, they still stopped their act and shook their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 How hard would it be to say, "I was caught up with celebrating, I meant no disrespect to the Red Wings, the City of Detroit, and most of all to the traditions of hockey." It would have taken about as long as saying that he wouldn't apologize to the Red Wings for being late to the hand shake. It's not like he's losing big face that way either. Anyone would understand a kid getting caught up in the moment. I don't think it's a big deal that he won't, but I also think it would have been so easy and painless to just do it, that there really wasn't a reason not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwcolour Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Who cares, he was celebrating his cup victory then he thinks > "oh wait I need to shake Lidstroms hand" I don't think so, yet more of the big fish whining in the little pond I hate him because he is a baby and immature. However, I think this handshake thing is being blown way out of proportion and that Detroit is a little sour for blowing 2 chances to close out the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Is it really the captains's job to start the line and shake first? I've never heard that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I hate him because he is a baby and immature. However, I think this handshake thing is being blown way out of proportion and that Detroit is a little sour for blowing 2 chances to close out the cup. What's completely lost in a statement like this is that he's still just 21. His entire life he's been the center of attention and has, no doubt, been spoiled the whole way. He'll grow out of it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallen627 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I heard he eats babies, kicks puppies, and refuses to wear an American flag pin on his lapel. The bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I heard he eats babies, kicks puppies, and refuses to wear an American flag pin on his lapel. The bastard! He is Canadian, so you have to give him some slack on that eating babies thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 What's completely lost in a statement like this is that he's still just 21. His entire life he's been the center of attention and has, no doubt, been spoiled the whole way. He'll grow out of it eventually. Yeah, not like he worked hard at it or practiced instead of playing Nintendo or anything. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I watched the end and I thought that the handshake took too long. Sure the Pens were celebrating, but it did take way too long to let the Wings off the ice. Crosby was completely oblivious to the handshake and almost missed it. Is this overblown. Yes.. But hockey is now over and the unthinkable happened. Detroit lost game 7 on their own ice. There is nothing left to talk about during the next few weeks. I think Crosby should take the cup to Detroit and dip it in the Detroit river... Why.. I don't know.. Why the heck not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Looking at last year, the Pens waited longer for the Red Wings to get to the handshake line. While I think Crosby has some growing up to do, so do a few of the Wings too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Yeah, not like he worked hard at it or practiced instead of playing Nintendo or anything. :rolleyes: And how exactly does that counter the idea that he has been spoiled throughout the whole process? I'm guessing the list of 4 year pros living in their owner's house is very short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Take a look at who brought this up, Kris Draper. He's been around forever. This is another sign of the slow death of many of the traditions in this game. So many of the young guys don't look at the game the same way as they did in the past. Head hunting and diving is through the roof. Say what you want about the code, but there has been plenty of talk about that disappearing too. Players don't respect each other anymore. I think this handshake incident is being overhyped, but you're only going to hear about these kind of things more and more moving forward. I guess there is a new NHL after all. Yeah, and that punk Chris Chelios didn't shake hands a few years ago too and Scott Stevens never laid someone out with a headshot. Kids these days... http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story....67a&k=47308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Yeah, and that punk Chris Chelios didn't shake hands a few years ago too and Scott Stevens never laid someone out with a headshot. Kids these days...http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story....67a&k=47308 Of course there was headhunting in the past, but it is far more widespread today. If you think there's just as much respect among players today as their used to be, I have no idea what you're watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 And how exactly does that counter the idea that he has been spoiled throughout the whole process? I'm guessing the list of 4 year pros living in their owner's house is very short. Mario was still playing when they drafted Sid. It's not uncommon for players to move in with teammates for a while, yeah 3 seasons is a bit much, but probably saved him a good 40% on his house if he buys now. Mario took in Fleury too yaknow. If we had drafted the next Gretzky I'm sure some people in the front office would spoil him too. My point, that you didn't get, was that that kids missed the birthday parties of friends, holidays, etc to go skate. He had the desire to make himself the best, something few kids have these days. Now stop making me make excuses for the kid. Besides, he'll probably get thrown out by Mario because Mario's got two teenage daughters now that he wants to keep clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Of course there was headhunting in the past, but it is far more widespread today. If you think there's just as much respect among players today as their used to be, I have no idea what you're watching. I remember one time Roby scoffed at the idea there was more respect in the game years ago, when he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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