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The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
With our internal cap it’s actually the ~750m dollar question -
The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Sorry i didn’t mean ever I meant this offseason You listed a 54 goal improvement above something like that would certainly qualify -
We need dishers
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The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Right candidly i don’t think +impact on the fridges will translate to much of anything at all, as is usually the case. I don’t think 20 Nickels makes a dollar in the nhl, is what I’m saying. More less to me still looks like my “willing to write off JJ / Kesselring as a wash” to my eye when digging in a bit (with of course them actually preferring Kesselring by a non-negligible margin) if that’s the case we could very well be at a “probably a little bit improved, likely not enough” take you see floating around from liger and others -
The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Oh ok so it’s their own scale/assigned ratings, thanks. Kinda cool where does the other +7 come from, after subtracting Peterka’s 4 from Kesselrings’s 6? 1/2 each to danforth Lyon Doan and Timmins? And the guys we ditched are all zeroes? -
The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Anyways; if you are right it means we needed to improve by 35 goals. Have we done that? -
The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
I think the way it works is you get to a certain amount of points/place in standings and the team makes it regardless of differential haha, but I take your meaning But when it says “net rating added” does that refer to plus minus? -
The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
I’m asking if it refers to standings points or goal differential We were -20 so a +9 would get us to -11 -
The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
Oh ya I definitely agree though we’ve been in “could be good” territory for a while. Unfortunately it just doesn’t matter anymore - at least in terms of re-writing the assessment of Adams They absolutely will EVENTUALLY win. It’s well past the point of any current long tenured staff member getting credit for it -
The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
does the +9 refer to standings points? So the projection is an Eichel-esque WAR from Kesselring to the tune of missing the playoffs by (79+9) by 7 points? -
The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
Thorny replied to GASabresIUFAN's topic in The Aud Club
You can’t forget that JJ, as a young player was through with his development and at his ceiling, and that the young players we have still are only just scraping the surface of their development - can’t forget that variable -
Can you imagine how screwed this franchise would be if we had any sort of reasonable expectation? Their apparent handcuffs in fielding a cup winning team are notable - I can admit that but its so, so far neither here nor there. If there’s one thing they sabres have been successful at aside from plausible deniability it’s successfully lowering expectations and the bar for success. the saving grace, our beloved excuse annihilator, is the fact we are only asking for a solitary playoff appearance and even the bad teams do that it’s still right there for them..we haven’t all left yet
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I’m just teasing you, relax im not saying you are defending Adams. I definitely do disagree with you that Norris isn’t viewed as the key “addition”, though, along with Kesselring I can only see a whopping level of faith in the lad when I look at the F group and the lack of moves and also the subtraction there we saw
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Ya the last time we eclipsed 90 points. Where exactly are you getting lost, here? Presumably the goal is to field a team that’s actually good Isn’t Norris supposed to be our 2C, at LEAST next season? He sure as hell *better* be a key addition dude or we ain’t making any noise It’s not even a matter of opinion - Norris being a key addition is functionally worked into any success of Adams’ plan Your stance is bizarre You get too hung up trying to contradict me for sport and it gets you into trouble
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The reason for that is intrinsic to the player We were a bad team when cozens was playing well, I do find it funny everyone forgets that. The idea of replacing cozens is to re-establish what we had there when he was GOOD - that’s what we need at 2C. Norris being marginally better than a poorly performing player doesn’t get us anywhere, and even this is no guarantee as he struggles to get on the ice at all Being like, “Norris represents the avenue for improvement at F we need if everything goes right with him” DOES sound like Adams and it’s why many called that as the “key” addition at F its possible. It’s not likely but it’s possible, and it’s Adams, very Adams It’s pretty safe to say I think a big part of the reason we’ve seen so little at F *is* because KA has a lot of faith in Norris. We’ll see if he can catch and eclipse the poor Cozens, first, then we’ll have to see if we can make some ground in bridging the gap to the 2C play and improvement we actually need.
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Ya I counted Kesselring but people didn’t mean trade a better player for a weaker one when they said change. We can be nice and call it an even swap- we still haven’t done anything to improve Norris was a member of the team last year - a good way to make the playoffs would be to pencil in what we got from him and build from there rather than counting on an unknown disclaimer being I know they won’t do that
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Almost all fringe, par for the course tweaks on the edges of the line up every roster is mandated to go through every offseason that will have little to zero affect on results. When people say “change”, the connotation is “change that matters”. Changing the strength and conditioning coach doesn’t matter, either the only real impact addition was Kesselring, and he came at the price of a better player. So, one key change element, but zero key improvement elements =very little change. Because again, people aren’t referring to 4th liners and 13th forwards and backup journeymen goaltenders when they say “change” As predicted, Norris will be sold as the offseason addition
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Sabres sign Forward Jake Leschyshyn to a one year two way contract
Thorny replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
I withdraw my Adams complaints in totality