Thorny

1999 Sabres. 2006 Sabres. 2025 Blue Jays. That’s it, that’s my list. In chronological order. this sh*t just doesn’t come around very often. Cherish it.

Ya I mean I would have gone with “we have a goal scoring 1C on IR” if wanting to be nice I can’t remember the exact stat but I believe this primary assist rate per ice time was bottom of the barrel league relative Oh here it is: Josh Norris had 2 primary assists at 5v5 his last 103 games in Ottawa 2 primary assists in over a full season’s worth of games. If anything is comfortably not a “playmaker” it’s him. Absurd stat

How many times have we seen sabres players go on to other environments and look much better? It stands to reason that MUST exist in reverse, even if relatively few and far between. Perhaps he was just a good fit, here. I certainly won’t necessarily retroactively diminish what I saw from him here because he hasn’t done it elsewhere yet - cause you are right, he was good here. Granato was mentioned above and that’s a good point too. We underrated him as a coach

Norris is one of the worst assist getters in the league statistically

Promotion only in name, probably into “token” roles that have little to no impact on actually building the team. As much as it’s a comment on how low a bar Adams has set while being in the chair, I won’t look upon a GM change as anything but a promising relative development Everyone knows the buck stops at Terry and we can talk about that until the cows come home but there’s no question that *at least* the second most influential mind behind the construction of the team is the guy who sits in the GM chair. That the person occupying said chair hasn’t, through aptitude, proper communication, and demonstrative results, managed to *become* THE lead voice, if they haven’t, is as much a comment on the failings of said GM(s) as anything. A paramount failure of the Adams’ regime

This is a good point. Sell low? No thanks

Reinhart was a ghost well into his 4th post draft season. Clock turned for him January 1, 2018. Power isn’t even there yet and he’s a d-man with a longer dev curve

Too young, too talented, too surrounded by ineptitude, too many games that look like this: seen it too many times before, I have. I wouldn’t trade him. Nor would I allow a flailing management group to do so. Seller beware. Ymmv

“Don’t hate the player..” yup

Think we might get Bo back too. Dodgers are obviously the favourite, be real. Defending champs. Ohtani. They’re the Dodgers. But pressure and expectation can be a *very* funny thing in sports. The situation at large definitely benefits the Jays imo. Their offence also frankly *has* been better than everyone else’s this postseason, including the Dodgers, and by a not insignificant margin. Vladdy the best hitter on the planet right now. Ohtani and Vladdy, Dodgers vs Jays, World Series game 1, Rogers Centre. Honestly, as Jays fans, we’ve already won. Now go get 4 more.

Lol underdog role AND home field? Got them right where we want them

Dahlin is one of the best players in the league. The only thing we are doing is wasting his prime that after ALL this, and all these years, we still have folks in the “I don’t wanna blame the best player but I’m gonna blame the best player” camp is just willful ignorance or lack of understanding of how hockey works. These same people will argue Eichel isn’t full marks for his cup win and leading the playoffs in points because he was added to a team that was “already good”. they just don’t get it and seemingly never will

Absolutely incredible. I cannot believe it.

Really, a 2-3 start doesn’t sway you? In seriousness it’s understandable. Personally I’ve realized I literally can’t be sucked back in until they make a change at GM. Too much baggage there. I think they were actually close to being in a playoff spot at the mythic thanksgiving mark last year - started the day in a spot but by the time the thanksgiving games were completed we were actually in 9th.

Samuelsson’s was always a puzzling, no-upside contract. Will remain that way. Agree on Power. In fact I expect his contact to start to look really good

It’s one thing to do so while being a contender, to do so while never making the playoffs is gross malpractice to do so while averaging 78 points for 5 years is just high comedy

I’ve heard good things about your milkshake. brings all the boys to the yard, IIRC

A marked improvement on the last 6 years of sabres hockey

No, if you can’t lose the 50 pounds you need to lose with one solid week of exercise and diet, with some small improvement first, you shouldn’t even bother. 50 pounds in one fell swoop or not at all. Terry pays for liposuction or we are stuck with eveything

So, A) let perfect be the enemy of good and don’t do anything, spitting in the face of accountability in the process b) extend Adams because: we’ve won 2 games after dropping the first 3, the owner literally isn’t going to change therefore we are powerless to make any other changes (as they’d be pointless), and we do literally need to have someone in the GM chair c) be sure to credit Terry for the Doan acquisition as I am told Terry has his fingers in every pie

Most aren’t. I’m not talking about discussing his strengths and weaknesses - that would obviously fit under discussing based on result. Context is always important here and you can look to the post I specifically quoted as someone who doesn’t leave room for that if the equation is simply “he wasn’t committed to getting better.” Any player “not committed to improving in any way” isn’t someone we would want which renders the discussion on result moot the post I quoted said “hard to say much different” with regard to my statement that it’s unfair to label JJ as a player with no interest in improving the inclination is often to “found money trade acquisition, dude we traded was a stalled-out lost cause anyways”. Defence mechanism. Labelling JJ as weak defensively is fair. Suggesting he had no desire to improve isn’t.

You’d think the fact we only ever trade guys who are fatally flawed and only bring in guys who “play the right way” would eventually result in a better team. Anecdotally, I always seem to hear, after the fact, that guys we trade away are folks we “didn’t want around anyways.” consensus in thread seems to be that Adams “wanted” to sign him but JJ wanted out. Are we thinking Adams felt JJ was reluctant to improvement if he was wanting to sign him? I’m trying to keep the argument straight, so forgive me. From reports we only dealt JJ because he had had enough - why wouldn’t Adams have been exploring a deal previous to that if JJ was someone selfishly only interested in himself and for some reason also not interested in improving himself? we can argue he’s bad for culture because he wanted out (if we ignore the why being of our own doing) but a young player struggling to round out their defensive game doesn’t torpedo their offensive worth and it certainly fits much more snuggly within the common development curve narrative that it does the idea he “wasn’t interested in being a better player” Maybe he’ll never have the aptitude and skill to completely round out him game? I could see that. But I’d deem the tarring and feathering of character we never miss the opportunity to engage in rather egregious.