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GDT- Buffalo Sabres @ Vancouver Canucks Dec 11 2025 10pm ESPN, WGR
Thorny replied to Shoot da Puck's topic in The Aud Club
“Not egregiously out of it at Christmas, year 6.” No, it points to these 3 games being meaningless in the grand scheme of things. -
GDT- Buffalo Sabres @ Vancouver Canucks Dec 11 2025 10pm ESPN, WGR
Thorny replied to Shoot da Puck's topic in The Aud Club
Dude is quite literally made of glass He makes Bogosian look like an iron man -
He’s a veritable smorgasbord of ineptitude
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“Gotta save for the Peterka and Quinn extensions! Can’t possibly address the roster now, we need to save the space.”
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If he gets Ws today and Sunday, those 2 wins combined with Edmonton cover him for the Monday-Wednesday off days. Then it all comes down to Philly. A win gets him through the off day, then he’s got the islanders. its a back to back, so he can recoup some ground with a win vs the devils the next day, keeping an extra “24 hours” in his back pocket gotta play the game but it can be done
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GDT- Buffalo Sabres @ Vancouver Canucks Dec 11 2025 10pm ESPN, WGR
Thorny replied to Shoot da Puck's topic in The Aud Club
What could KA have even done? (sorry, I don’t think I’ll have many of these left) -
I posted it before all my endless Eichel propaganda was black listed
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No, Adams has been filling that role and Terry has been enacting final say whenever he wants to pretend to himself that he cares Adams is probably *moving* to POHO. There’s no reason it would be a position that gives his strategies a second try. Otherwise what is the point? The shifting of Jarmo to GM suggests it’s his turn at the wheel and that the GM is the one steering the ship
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I think you are right, there. I don’t think “getting rid of Eichel” was a pillar of the actual plan - in fact I’d argue we know it wasn’t, considering the change of course for the Covid year. It simply became an accepted consequence of instituting the desired plan, which we saw the following year. To me it makes the idea “trading Eichel” is synonymous with the decision to rebuild re: the purposes of this poll even more apt, as it really was more so a fallout of that decision than something that was, as you point out, an actual bullet point of their plan they chose their long form rebuild over keeping Eichel. The “decision” to trade Eichel was inevitable once the plan was cemented. They should have chosen “Eichel” and the timeline, and roster building his presence suggested, but instead chose the path that had no expectations for the foreseeable future
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“In an exclusive interview with Elliotte Friedman, Jack Eichel lays out his timeline for when it went completely sideways for him in Buffalo, not wanting to be part of another Sabres’ rebuild.” the horse’s mouth: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/jack-eichel-explains-things-went-sideways-buffalo/ He explains in the very first answer of the segment that they made a GM change and things were headed towards a period where they “weren’t trying to win.” it’s factually clear that the decision to rebuild is what cost us Eichel. I think it’s fair to consider trading Eichel and rebuilding as synonymous re: this poll judges?
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Given where Jack was in his career, both age and development curve wise, (and what he demonstrably went on to do in Vegas) I think Jack’s trade request upon learning of the idea to long form rebuild was a decision, if not praised by the team’s fans, was nonetheless one that was, at least in hindsight, understandably likely upon presenting such a scenario to Mr. Eichel himself. he might not have “wanted” to trade Eichel but he knowingly made salvaging the relationship a non priority when electing his course of action: which is essentially the same thing
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You could add “desire to rebuild” as that’s really his original sin and mandate (fix the culture! Only want guys who want to be here!”) but for me that is all synonymous with “Eichel”
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I agree it would be meaningless, but I think I take comfort in that: it’s Adams and his role that will be essentially meaningless. We know in Buffalo it is the GM who is “ultimately responsible”, (they don’t even have a POHO right now. And yes, I get Terry gets “final say”, but someone is still bringing him the options to choose from and dressing them up as attractively/unattractively as they are apt to do.)
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Eichel only asked for a trade upon learning that Adams’ desired course of action was a long form rebuild. - - - The Hall year was indeed an attempt at going the non-rebuild route. I have argued their decision to take a Covid crazed, crazy scheduled, short season where Eichel started the year injured and only played *21 games* as some sort of confirmation they needed to turn the whole thing over is completely batshit. They reverted back to Adams’ rebuild plan after that anomaly of a season. And Eichel reverted back to his trade request, this time via “surgery dispute”.
