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I'm more than halfway home. I worry for what my son is going to live through alot more than what I will.

I'm guessing he reposted it from somewhere else?

It only takes a minute of googling to find images of Proud Boys and Boogaloo Bois in those riots as well. Note the Igloo patches, Hawaiian shirts, and white supremacy hand signs. Look up Boogaloo to get the significance of the patches and shirts. Don't pretend that the far right isn't well represented in the chaos here. You can bet their aim is destabilization too. Boogaloo is shorthand for civil war 2 afterall.

It takes two sides to discuss. For all too long only one side has been talking. The laws are in place. It’s rarely implemented, and that is a huge chunk of the issue. What is needed is reform of training, recruitment, and a dismantling of the thin blue line that prevents good cops from pointing out bad cops. The other side of the discussion needs to come from within the law enforcement fraternity. The people have been talking for decades. The other side needs to step up to the table.

Photos all over the internet of far left groups like Antifa and far right groups like Boogaloo Bois and Proud Boys participating in these riots, yet this AM only far left Antifa is singled out by Trump to be labeled as a terrorist organization.

From what I have seen, it looked to me like they instigate and move on to let the rest finish the job.

Plenty of talent. Not enough determination IMO. Jack spoke to that in his Zoom interview. We've got alot of softness in that PP lineup.

I live in a county with more dairy cows than people. I over reacted, but the vibe from all this is just off. This isn't the Rodney King riots. There is something more sinister at play I think. I am supposed to travel to Detroit for business this week. I'm not at all comfortable with it. Between this and COVID. Ugh.

A few nights ago a guy was shot and killed in Livingston County after trying to ram cop cars with a semi and shooting at them. He had a bunch of anti-police and civil war stuff on his social media pages. WTF is going on?

Yeah, I know the drill. Seems like far right and far left involved the last couple of nights. Strange stuff indeed.

Yes. I don't think there were squad cars burning, but looting has started in some spots in the last hour. The peaceful protesters went home and things got weird.

Not gonna lie. I loaded up a bed stand piece for the 1st time in a very long time. I don't like the vibe of what is going down. This is more than police brutality protests.

Passing on a garden this year. Except a few herbs. With a likely move coming right around harvest time we've got too much to do for the added distraction.

You got weird skin if those weren't pants...... You guys sounded really good. I enjoyed it alot. And now I REALLY regret not being able to make the trip to see you live in Niagara County earlier.

I don't think it is all related to skill. Pluggers weren't well paid. Stars were. I'd say there was more motivation on the side of the pluggers to keep a paycheck coming in.

Lots of crazy out there tonight. Seems to be some obvious anarchists at work.

\m/ Sounds great, swamp!

Hawerchuck and Turgeon with the rest of that stacked lineup in 92-93? Do we get past Montreal if we had two healthy centers at the top of the lineup? It's an interesting thought.

This man gets my respect.

I won't support burning communities, but proportion does matter. Proportion is important because it points to behavioral trends. This happens to blacks way more often than it happens to whites. Yes, it happens to whites too, but the proportion of events is ridiculous. And why do we point fingers based on politics? The cartoon says it all. The right staged armed protests over masks and social distancing. Where is the right's protest over police brutality, whether it happens to a white man or black? It's not hard to point out the displaced priority here. One is protest for a feigned outrage, the other is over actual loss of life and liberty. When do we see the right protest? Over taxes, over a change in enforcement of grazing rights on federal lands, over the dismantling of statues. Actual life and liberty events bring silence. We have a problem with law enforcement actions too frequently out of proportion with the offense committed. I see it as a function of a "cops should be able to go home" mentality which creates a mindset that the police are more important than the people they interact with, a fraction of the police force that has an authority complex, and a racism problem in some fraction of law enforcement. I think the first item is trained into them and is therefore systemic. The second and third though IMO are the primary drivers of these events, although I wouldn't be surprised if this guy's defense is," that's what I was trained to do". Regardless, we need these events to stop, whether it be through training reform or better screening of police candidates and a purge of cops who just don't have an acceptable personality for the job. Unfortunately, the only times these events get attention are when riots break out, which makes the riots almost inevitable. I agree that a man getting his neck kneeled on for 8 minutes is wholly unnecessary for the crime of trying to pass a phony $20 bill, regardless of color. And we should be outraged regardless of color. But we shouldn't ignore that it happens far more often to black men than it happens to whites.

Fair enough.

He wasn’t reaching a conclusion though. If anything he was questioning those that had already reached theirs.

0311 I saw your response but wasn't able to get around to responding to it before it was deleted. Understand your complaint. It has validity. That cartoon has problematic imagery. I didn't post it because I equate Trump supporters with filthy hillbillies. Despicables and all that. Trump support goes way beyond the stereotype in that political cartoon. It was more the message I saw that was worthy of conversation, as opposed to the specific imagery. The hypocrisy of freedom touting people on the right decrying the mask requirements as infringement and yet supporting police activities that result in death in the name of law and order.

I get PA's point. I don't know if it is accurate, but I get it. Too lazy to verify, but I'm relatively sure Yzerman was in the playoffs in year 2, and another year or two before the dominant team was built. So maybe there was early evidence that Yzerman was going places. I think there is a real chance that Eichel is Turgeon2.0. I'm sure he's a better player, but is he the right player? I don't know. And I think that is PA's point. Maybe if he isn't the right player he can grow into it. Turgeon was not the same guy after 7-8 yrs that he was in Buffalo. But he was also becoming a secondary piece as well. Not to say Jack is destined to be a secondary piece, just that he might not be the right player, right now. In the end I most strongly suspect that Jack is the right guy, but needs more around him. But I acknowledge the possibility that it might not be the case.

I’m skeptical even of a Shanny role. I keep hearing motivator/communicator. If there is not much else there isn’t much separation from con man.