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No, I would either want both with no picks or 1 with picks a forward lesser prospect I want overpayment for ROR and nothing short of that will do

Good try Bove but I'm not fond of trading ROR to MTL for anything short of a crippling blow to them.

Hows this? https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/716505 I tried to be realistic

Flagg, would the team be better if we acquired Pesce and Draisital for ROR and Risto respectfully?

I wouldn't trade ROR, but especially to Montreal where almost anything we'd receive would pale in comparison to what ROR would give Montreal. They remind a bit of the 2010/11 Sabres in that they have a great goalie, some nice pieces, but 0 centers. ROR would give them that and I am not looking to help my rivals. Unless MTL's 1st, Galchenyuk, and Mete are all coming our way that is. A center's impact outweighs almost anything they can offer.

Hmm, it's definitely a offense for defense style trade. What if we combine that with Dubinsky(1,850,000mil retained) and Boone Jenner for Fasching and a 3rd in 2019. After all Dubinsky fell off a truck last year but I'd think he'd still be an effective 3rd line C and Jenner could be Eichel's winger where Gaudreau would be with Mittelstadt and Okposo I'm also ridding us of Larsson, and Beaulieu So..... Jenner - Eichel - Reinhart Gaudreau - Mitts - Okposo Bennett - Dubinsky - ERod Wilson - Girgs - Baptiste Pommers and Bailey are the extras

Brodin is also on a better team offensively so his offensive numbers were easier to achieve.

I’d say he’s a 3/4 and around equal to Scandella to be honest. Borodin is a great dman but brings very little outside of dzone play whereas Scandella is a bit more well rounded. Hence my offer, I’m looking for him more to be Dahlin or Risto’s defensively minded partner. He’s a better Pysyk

I wouldn't say Nylander, McCabe, and a 2019 2nd are crap, and neither is the cap space. We may be down on Nylander but he was the 8th overall pick 2 years ago and his value is still high to some teams I'd imagine based on his bloodline alone. Plus I based it off a trade I saw elsewhere just with Spurgeon instead of Brodin.

Pominville will stay one more year as a 3rd/4th liner Falk while handy will likely walk Reinhart signed for 5 or 6 years at about 4.5mil per

Nylander, McCabe, 2019 2nd and Fasching to Min for Ennis and Brodin? Regardless, the major problem I’m finding is LW

Would anyone be interested in taking a flyer on Brandon Saad, had his worst year of his career last year but is still younger than ROR and can play LW. Plus he has 2 cup rings. I did Bailey and Beaulieu for Saad since we take on 3x6mil but I'm really unsure of his value at this time.

I love Ehlers but no, that retention makes it dead on arrival.

For starters, Pronger, Clarkson and Datsyuk were either on LTIR or whatever Arizona did to save their roster spot with Datsyuk. This allowed the team picking up the contract to not have to worry about roster space and rather merely the temporary cap implications. Moulson and Bogo aren't in either category, their cap isn't going to be able to be made disappear. The Pronger trade to Arizona was the least costly as Pronger's 1 mil in total salary over 2 years, with a 4+ mil cap hit, was useful to Arizona's cheap owner. Additionally they sent away Sam Gagner;s contract which they had been tempted to buyout, and received Nicklas Grossmann for a conditional 4th/3rd. The Clarkson trades are on the opposite end of the spectrum as both trades had more of an impact. First Toronto sent him to CBJ for Nathan Horton (LTIR Guy) meaning while they gave themselves potential cap space, they would still need to get under the cap at the season's start. The second trade was CBJ with Vegas, and they gave up a 2017 1st and a 2019 2nd. However, he too is now an LTIR member. Lastly we have Datsyuk's awkward departure in which had a strangely interesting result as Detroit somehow received another pick in the trade while moving down 4 spots. That being said Arizona got the best player of the draft picks..... Bogosian actually has a higher salary than his cap hit thus Arizona would be unlikely to be interested in him while Moulson has 1 year left on his contract an would be a waste to spend assets to remove 4 mil when we really don't need it.

To be honest, I’m not fond of what he has said to us. 1. He’s going after us Sabres fans for being sour over the Golden Knights. 2. His put downs on the Sabres franchise, while partially true, came off as we were the idiots for staying loyal to the Sabres and that somehow we had a part in that.

I kept an eye on it but besides ROR, none of our big named players are in it and the US never gets far in the tournament anyway. This year they only lost once in the early games, but then get bludgeoned by Sweden without as much as a peep from the US team aside from Kane.... Congrats Sweden, kick Canada's ass!

Slavin - Interested Pesce - Interested Haniifin - Interested Faulk - Not really

Haven’t we played in 3 of the last four now?

Anaheim was forced to protect Bieksa, he has a NMC which I guess he wouldn’t waive.

Randall here's my Risto proposal Risto + 2019 3rd to EDM for Klefbom, #10, and Yamamoto then Nylander and #10 to CAR for Pesce and a 2019 4th Beaulieu for Orpik and Grubauer's rights Scandella - Pesce Klefbom - Dahlin McCabe - Bogosian Orpik - Nelson Guhle is 1st call up as we all know Bogo won't play more than 40 games anyway. Is Pesce any good? I know you love Slavin but I can't see them trading him and he's a lefty too.

I just don't see the value in trading one of the few RHDs who shoots right for another left LHD. without us also getting Yamamoto and 10. Otherwise all we are doing is downgrading our production, upping D play, but leaving us with only the often injured Bogosian and young Nelson as a rightys

The bare minimum for Risto to EDM for me would be Yamamoto, Klefbom, and #10 for Risto and our 4th. The biggest problem wit trading Risto is the lack of grit and ice munching we'd have on the back end.

And again, if he trades Risto; Botterill better get a king's ransom and then some. Not prospects or picks but Taylor Hall-esc, so not RNH.

I don't see that, he'd be rather dumb to do so and I just don't see Botts being that stupid barring Chia handing over the equivalent of his 1st born

I'm not trading any of our core unless the trade makes us blatantly better. I'm not trading Risto for anything short of Draisital on EDM. I'm not taking pieces or cap dumps or picks, they either give us a player of similar importance or I'm keeping our young defenseman. I know you dislike Risto, but that doesn't mean we need to trade him.