Hey I live in Northen Westchester and people from Manhattan think I live upstate. Ive always maintained you need to live north of Middleton to be considered upstate. But these folks dont have a clue how big NYS actually is.
PS TX, OK, Ark and LA are not really part of the old south. Use to say to and old boss of mine from TX Habblah Espanol... can you say Santa Anna... we can always give you back. Furthermore, Im from NY... we kicked you ass once... we can do it again and now NYers have infiltrated TX so foget about it!