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Then it's on them to cure their ignorance about the history of all these trade deals. My question is when did America decide that profit trumps patriotism?

Asking questions makes a person an apologist? It's unfortunate you feel a need to drop out of the discussion as I was genuinely interested in the insight you provided regarding the flash drive and who might be in trouble, etc. You will have to pardon my cynicism about the GOP's relentless attacks, all timed to coincide with with her presidential campaign. This "system" that's protecting her is under the control of the most powerful investigative body in our government, if not the world, and she has real political enemies within it. I need a little more than "she needs to be in jail" in light of that. Perhaps I'd have more faith in that body if I thought it could do better than spending several years and $75m to entrap a Clinton in a lie about an extra- marital affair.

Well, they should. Because Trump, Clinton, or anybody else in the White House isn't gonna change a damned thing about those trade deals. Not. A. Thing. Those jobs are gone and never coming back. Period. Sometime within the next 15 days? After the election? Is this a set up for yet another Clinton to be impeached?

You mean those bipartisan trade deals? The ones few republican congressmen, if any, voted against? Those trade deals?

According to whom? I mean other than those that oppose her politically. Not following State Department guidelines is not the same as breaking federal laws. FBI said she was careless, but broke no laws. Do we put people in jail for being careless? Is the FBI corrupt? If so, when is Congress going to press charges?

This makes sense only to intellectually honest people having the debate and won't be given the time of day by those most needing to hear it; those that buy into the "gov'ment gonna take your guns" rhetoric.

The NRA, guns, and ammo makers LOVE this crap. Huge demand and price spikes after every mass shooting and the anti-gun rhetoric that follows.

Outstanding. Seriously good stuff to ruminate on. If only we could apply this level of analysis to say, Bogo's level of defensive play.

Thanks for the clarification.

Don't let the small frame of the TV sway your opinion on the number of women Trump has in his corner. Remember the Iran hostage crisis? When all we saw was the limited field of vision the TV provided and we all thought the streets were full of protesting Iranians day after day?Had they panned the camera a few degrees in any direction, we would have seen business as usual on the streets of Tehran. A good lesson in how the media can actually create the story they are covering. Trumps numbers with women are at historical lows. That's all we need to know about his level of support from the women vote.

I'm not basing my opinion on three road games, it's DD's entire body of work, including his success/failures with the Penguins. And I'm certainly aware that he is missing his most skilled offensive player and another talented top 6 winger. I get that he is saddled with a less than All Star D corps, too. I'm willing to give him a chance, certainly. But I need to be convinced he's gonna get us there.

Wrong. I am challenging you to research it's origins, how it's funded, and attempting to debunk the far right myths about who uses it and who benefits the most from doing so. Feel free to make singular examples the exception that proves the rule. That's required by the far right to paint the picture they need to see. But it's a lie. And it's a kind of sophistry that I find dangerous in today's climate.

Let me know when you are up to speed on the Lifeline Assistance program, particularly it's origins and how it's funded and then perhaps we can discuss it with clarity. Nobody is "blaming Bush", btw. Not for this program, anyway.

You haven't addressed the issue of deporting over 10 million people or the legal ramifications involved for US citizens born here. I'll give you credit for taking all of five minutes to ponder and come up with these solutions though. Any chance you can get on a ballot before election day? Seriously, that was pretty good and I think you have the potential to add more clarity to solutions if given the proper time and resources to develop them. But the physical act of deporting 10 million plus people, as has been propagated by some, is gonna be a sticky wicket no matter how much time you spend on it.

Oh, it's propaganda alright. Perpetrated by far right wingers. If there is such a thing as Obama phones, then we might as well say there were Bush 43 phones, Clinton phones, Bush 41 phones, and even Reagan phones that preceded it. Please familiarize yourself with the genesis of the Lifeline program and who pays for it before regurgitating the lie. Heck, you could probably go back to the 30s and the first Telecommunications Act to get a proper groundwork for understanding the evolution of the program.

First of all, you have to stop insisting on conflating the issues. Again you use the term "come here illegally" when that is not the issue we are discussing. As to tacitly agreeing with her position on amnesty, it's not that simple. First, I think we better have all our Ts crossed and Is dotted otherwise there is big potential to open expose our government (us) to lawsuits filed on behalf of millions of US citizens (children born here). Or, how about the sheer logistics and costs involved? Sorry, but I can't run around screaming, "No amnesty, no amnesty", when NO MATTER WHO'S IN OFFICE, will have all those issues explained and realize it's just not practical. As such, I agree a path to citizenship for those that have demonstrated their ability to become good US citizens and all that entails, might, I repeat MIGHT, be the most effective remedy to the myriad of problems the issue presents. My turn to turn the tables. What's your solution and if it entails rounding up, processing, and deporting, can you provide a cost estimate and also a solution to the millions of US citizens negatively impacted by those deportations?

Right. Locker room talk. On a luxury bus. With the host of a hugely popular TV show. On the way to tape a segment with a hugely popular soap star. Only thing missing was the locker room. I've spend considerable time in locker rooms in my life. Nothing ever came remotely close to Trump's rhetoric. Indeed, when things went too astray at times, the gentlemen in the locker room would seek to restore order. You know, gentlemen. Men with filters. Something the Trumps of the world don't possess.

FFS, where have I come close to even remotely, by one iota, implying that I believe it is "alright" for people to stay illegally? Where have I suggested it's a "right" to immigrate where ever I want? The issue is how to correct the problem and I want people to draw a distinction between people entering illegally (virtually a NON problem) and those staying here illegally; a HUGE problem. It's important because there are those that think that considerable resources should go to fixing the former, thus reducing resources to tackle the latter. The hundreds of billions of dollars required to build a 2,000 mile wall for example, won't do a damned thing about illegal immigrants already here but it will impact how we deal with it. And the latter is a multi-faceted problem that goes far past "you are here illegally, get out." Not the least of which is the complex issue of violating the guaranteed Constitutional rights of millions of children born to illegal immigrants. I am not ascribing any advocacy here, only suggesting that we haven't begun to understand the complex issues involved, let alone come up with solutions for them.

That's where we differ, it's not the same act. Therefore the strategies to deal with the two issues are completely different. Do we put ankle bracelets on people legally entering the country?

I wasn't going to wade into the muck, but I draw the line at purposely regurgitating far right wing lies. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/ No, that's not my solution. Quite frankly, I'm not sure how you go about finding, rounding up, processing, and deporting multi-millions of people. It's a hugely complex issue to tackle. But it begins by properly identifying the problem. Do you not see the difference in how you attack the problem by saying "people entering illegally" vs. "people staying here illegally?"

The vast, vast, vast, majority of illegal immigrants in this country DID NOT enter illegally. They stayed here illegally. HUGE difference in terms of issues about lax borders and the sheer logistical challenge to round up and deport those millions. So tell me, how do you stop a legally entered immigrant from the future act of not maintaining their legal status to be here? Look into their eyes to determine future outcomes? This isn't about walls and stopping people from illegally entering the country and never has been.

We aren't a highly skilled team with the exception of a few players. DD isn't a hockey savant. So, both.

I must be honest; we have one top line, a checking line and two 4th lines. We are just so lacking in skill at the moment that I'm not sure we can hold the fort until we get our injured players back.

Neither. It's which candidate has the best chance to hasten the rapture.

February is a long way off.