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Not sure why it’s easier to believe Adams is too stupid to know the the rules than it is to believe he’s too stupid to judge the difference between Timmins and JBD. I’m not aware of other examples of him screwing up the rules, but I’ve seen plenty of bad player evaluations. This is right in line with “Clifton is worth $10M over 3 years, and Beck Malenstyn is worth pick #43. As others have said, few of those who elect arbitration ever get there; they usually select it to force the other side to get serious about negotiations, so they can avoid it.

JBD signed w Det for 875K. We paid a 2nd to get JBD but wouldn't part with 875K to keep him. Pure genius. Maybe re-sign JBD, who played well in his 15 games, and also trade for Timmins. Guess what, you'd have depth behind Kesselring and maybe real competition for jobs. G-d forbid. I defer to Adams guaranteed roster spot system because that has worked so well.

Why act in haste?

Ya but it also means Buffalo's offer to him was not close to what he wants/expects. Players don't really like filing for arbitration either. It's a process that often creates bad blood and can mess with term too. Adams is going to have a hard time arguing here as he's already said he sees Timmons as an upgrade on Clifton.

This isn't the worst idea I've heard.

Nope. I feel the exact same way. I don't think he's great but I don't think he's bad. I just want to know what's going on.

If that’s what they believe, then that’s one thing. But, Timmons as a top 4? Really?

They see Timmins as a potential partner for Dahlin and JBD an 8 at best. So uhh, false equivalence

Maybe JBD didn't wanna be here.

You know they are not the same. First, they will settle with Timmins and be happy. I don’t necessarily agree with the decision to not qualify JBD but I understand the logic especially when they were able to sign a guy to a two way contract that is actually the real JBD comparable.

Need to keep up, Timmins is a top 4 D. Adams knows what he’s doing. Laughing at all of the little stuff when he has OH SO MANY colossal f*ck ups is just mean spirited We should be punching up - there is no way one can punch any lower than Kevyn Adams Frankly it reflects poorly on the fans, to continuously poke fun at someone probably not even capable of understanding what exactly his job description even is. True he would have difficulty piecing together the criticisms should he ever stumble across this website…but I mean someone might explain it to him

So just so we're clear Adams didn't sign JBD because Arbitration but traded a 2nd to get Timmins who filed for Arbitration. And I'm suppose to believe the difference between Jbd and Timmins is so large, this is some strategy?

810pm on a Saturday night and I just logged in to see if there's been a Byram trade.

As Dudacek correctly pointed out, these are not the same. He did not want his 7/8 defenseman getting a crazy award due to some good analytics. He has no issue with his 4/5 going the same route because he’s willing to pay that even though it will likely be settled before the hearing.

Yes, of course. But in light of the recent events it’s still funny. It’s healthy to laugh.

Tim Kennedy did

True 4D chess would be to trade Timmons and a 2027 2nd rounder to get JBD back. Except for JBD. Apparently he went to the hearing stage and was awarded an obscene amount of money. Seriously though, this was Adams reason for dumping JBD, yet he traded for a different defenseman who is doing exactly what Kevyn feared JBD would do.

Can he still sign an offer sheet after the Sabres choose arbitration? Because I wonder if his camp is actually angling Adams towards arbitration deliberately because they aren’t getting an offer sheet. Bear with me: the goal of Byram’s camp is to get him a high-dollar long-term deal in a place of Bo’s choosing where he can be “the guy”. Plan A Tell the Sabres you aren’t signing a long term deal and try to orchestrate a deal that matches the above goal. For now, that still includes the possibility of an offer sheet and the risk the Sabres will match. Plan B Failing that, manipulate the Sabres into paying Bo maximum cash for minimum term that either walks him directly into unrestricted free agency 2 years from now, or puts him in the driver’s seat for arranging a trade next summer to the team of his choice, like Matthew Tkachuk. Having the Sabres file for arbitration now does exactly that.

I'm not a Timmins fan, so more ammunition. Hopefully he's closer to his Pittsburgh form.

Am I the only person who just wants this move done one way or another, either he's bridged, signed, or traded?

JBD signed with Detroit for $875K.

Team deadline is tomorrow at 5pm but player will get to choose 1 or 2 year deal. My read on Bo not choosing arbitration is that the offer sheet is now the most likely outcome. He would not have given Sabres this non player arb leverage otherwise.

Stop with the common sense! You must overreact as if the very survival of the franchise depends upon the outcome of an arbitration hearing for a 5/6 defenseman.

I don’t know the exact number but it’s a very small number of cases that end up in arbitration, like 5%. They usually settle out of court.