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I voted for "best owner" because, well, a lot of these options just felt like blatant sarcasm. I have no hope for next season until something big changes and I suspect that won't happen.

This is exactly right, and i'd be interested if they are. I would rather go with Cirelli than Peterka in my top 9 with this mix. A Norris Cirelli McLeod centre spine is a lot more veteran and harder to play against than what we had last year. Something like this? Thompson Cirelli Benson Tuch Norris Zucker Quinn McLeod Greenway With Kulich forcing his way into the mix.

The only real hope is that a group of players out performs expectations and have career type years. Ruff has had two winning seasons in his last 11 as a head coach. One of then was 22-23 in NJ. The Devils had 112 points that year and Ruff was nominated for Coach of the Year. But several players had career years. Hughes, Hischer, Hamilton, and Mercer, all had their best offensive seasons that year. And Vanecek had a .911 save %, before dropping the next year to .890. So, Thompson could score 50, Dahlin could get to 80 points, Benson to 50, a healthy Norris to 60, Tuch in a contract year could put up 75 points. If Peterka was coming back, he might be an 80 point player. Luukkonen could bounce back and be a .910 goalie again. These or similar things, could happen. That's really the only thing to be hopeful for.

Why are we trading Norris and Byram in one move and only getting one player even close to their value back in EP40? Sorry Demko and Petterson do nothing to improve this team substantially better if we're giving up what you propose.

Yes and then in 2027 it switches to a 16 team NTC.

Puckpedia could be wrong, but in the fine print on their player page for Cirelli it indicates that his no trade clause kicks in July 1st this year.

As of right now there is little to no hope. Until positive moves are made to at least re-work the defense (2-3 new players in the top 6 including at least 1 top 4 defensive D), this team will remain at the bottom of the standings. I have zero faith in Adams to accomplish even the minimum of improvement. Remember, despite the additions of Zucker, McLeod and Byram, this team took another step backwards last season.

Thompson and Dahlin are top players. The key thing is hope for better goaltending, it was awful last year. Cozens being gone for me is a big thing. I think the Center combinations including Norris, Tage (possibly), Krebs, and Mcleod are better than taking any of those guys out and putting in Cozens.

Seravalli is a complete hack. Why anyone listens to this clown is beyond me.

is there an option for what is hope? I think many fans are just numb to the Sabres at this point. I know I am. Sure i always hope for some success but its in the same category as hoping for a winning scratch off ticket. You know you're likely not gonna win anything but deep down you still hope you get a winner.

I’m in Vancouver right now. First time here for me. What a lovely city. Beautiful! I will be cruising to Alaska in a few hours. I will probably miss the game.

Unfortunately the time to stop players from wanting out of this mess has passed. Once they brought Adams back, that told any player hoping for change that it was not going to happen. They will get what they deserve, and that is a 15th season in a row missing the playoffs.

Great news. Especially from the team that started him out on their 3rd defensive pair in the Four Nations Tournament.

None of this info is coming from the Sabres side or from ppl with Sabres connections. Almost EVERY SINGLE piece of info on this comes from Seravelli with Friedman occasionally chiming in. Buffalo can just keep Peterka but these guys talk like he must be traded. IMPO, I think the vultures are circling because Pegula hung onto Adams and ppl think he will be desperate. Hopefully Jarmo is able to be a voice of reason. You don't trade Peterka unless you are improving your team, stop being nice howdy doody and put the hammer down. Hiring Ruff was a mistake and last season showed that. They literally got worse last year.

Lots of uplifting choices to pick from. My real answer, based on a few shots of hopium, is that Jarmo can help them make better and more impactful decisions, and they finally turn a corner and become a winning team again.

2025 NHL Draft Rankings – Liger’s List top 32 1. Matthew Schaefer, LHD, 6’2” 186lbs: Excellent skater with a high pace and excellent ability to end plays and transition up ice. He reminds me a bit of Dahlin, shame he only played a partial year. 2. Michael Misa, C, 6’1” 182lbs: I thought about making him #1 but there’s some things in his game that I wonder will translate. Still he has a good shot and is able to link plays all over the ice. He’s probably on the level of Fantilli and that’s pretty good for a 2nd overall guy. 3. James Hagens, C, 5’10.5” 186lbs: He had issues driving inside at college but the rest of this game is there with the attention to detail and the ability to make excellent passes while also skating very well. I think he’s been overscouted and ppl freaked out over his adjustment to the NCAA. 4. Caleb Desnoyers, C, 6’1.5”* 178lbs: I saw a bit of his playoffs and that put him ahead of Martone. He doesn’t get enough credit for his offensive talent which is a direct product of him being excellent at the 200ft game. He’s better than Martone and ppl seem to be missing that he’s 25lbs under strength still. Also, centers are more valuable than wingers and I am betting on improved skating with strength. 5. Porter Martone, LW, 6’3”* 208lbs: The pace is the concern and he does not play like Tkachuk so ppl need to stop that. He reminds me more of Reinhart coming up with more physicality but that cerebral passer with a nice shot. I think Martone needs to continue demanding the puck more and being the driver. 6. Jackson Smith, LHD, 6’4” 199lbs: I love watching him skating sideways, it’s delightful and he has powerful strides. He is physical and really wants to push the pace all over the ice. The decision making is hit or miss which is the biggest issue here. Really intriguing package though. 7. Carter Bear, LW/C, 6’ 179lbs*: Other than an awkward skating stride that sometimes gets in the way of his upper body, Bear is a Bear. He’s the best checking forward in this draft, his shot is undervalued, and he makes things happen. He’s the type of guy that wins playoff games because he never stops and he has all the skills (cutting hands, stick lifts, false signals) to be effective on the top 6. 8. Roger McQueen, C, 6’5.25” 198lbs: So if the back is healed, this might be a little too low. I think there are times where he was kept to the outside and should be better at driving the middle but when he was on he was a force. He’s got some developing playmaking and his rush patterns need more variation but the size and overall skill make me think he’s at least a 2nd line center when healthy. 9. Victor Eklund, LW, 5’11” 169lbs: He’s up there with Bear for the motor element. His rush patterns and skating are better and he did it against men in the Allsvenskan. That said, I think his playmaking need works, as good as his checking can be, he sometimes does to much or tries too much. He needs to get stronger and refine his overall game but there’s a top 6 winger in there. 10. Justin Carbonneau, RW, 6’1.25” 205lbs: There’s 2 different Carbonneau’s in the world. There is hope passes, stick handle through everyone, get on my back boys we’re going winning. This one isn’t great because it won’t translate to the NHL. Then there is using the skills and body to extend plays, finding teammates, working the cycle and using an excellent shot to be an overall offensive weapon. He can and will violently defend teammates, don’t F with his team but that sometimes takes him out of plays. I have faith in Carbonneau because of his underlying skating, shot, physical play, and evidence he can adapt his game. 11. Brady Martin, C, 6’ 186lbs: Martin would hit his grandma is she played for the other team and had the puck. He is the closest thing this draft has to a Tkachuk albeit without the size. He has a good shot and decent passing. I think his skating and overall attention to detail need to improve. I am not sold on him having high enough offensive skills to truly be a top line forward hence why he falls below Carbonneau but Martin will be a middle 6 player with top 6 upside who is aggressive in using his body to shut things down and turn things up ice. 12. Kashawn Aitcheson, LHD, 6’1.5” 199lbs: I debated swapping him with Mrtka but I feel that Aitcheson has more offense and is more physical already. Those two factors kept him above Mrtka. He scored 26g as a defender and really activates well on the rush or in the offensive zone. He also hits everything. Really the only one who hits more is Martin. His skating needs more work but it isn’t bad. If he keeps developing you will get hopefully a better Riso type of guy with even more physicality. “Throwback” is a term used on him a lot. 13. Radim Mrtka, RHD, 6’5.75” 218lbs: I’ve come around a bit on Mrtka. I went back and watched a bunch of his stuff because I felt I was too low on him. His moves really well especially lateral which is important. He needs to up the physicality but I felt some of his passing was better than my initial feels. I see the appeal with him, he takes up tons of ice and he does well with his gaps and ending plays. I am not convinced there is enough offense to push him higher but I think at worst you are getting a 3D guy who can give you 7-10g and 15ish assists. He’s pretty good and has a lot of runway. 14. Jake O’Brien, C, 6’1.5” 177lbs: First, I get why he gets into other ranking top 10’s. His 2nd half was very good in terms of his playmaking ability. There is manipulation, passes into space, anticipation, and high level play reading skills. He’s also a center and over 6’ so that gives him a bump as well. I don't feel he handles contact well and I think his game will need more refinement. I think the height and center position has really vaulted him up rankings while missing some of the issues with his skating and lack of physicality. 15. Anton Frondell, C, 6’1.25” 204lbs: Fine… He’s big and a center with a nice shot. His transition game is… non-existent but he can take pucks from the walls to the middle. He is smart in his use of space. His defensive game is solid but I don’t see him being physical like Martin, more that he uses his frame to shield pucks or push into space. Others love him but there is a lack of dynamism outside the shot that makes me wonder why. Every time this guy played in international tournaments I felt underwhelmed with what I could watch. I am prepared to be wrong on Frondell. 16. Lyndon Lakovic, LW, 6’4” 200lbs: At one point I thought he might go top 5 but with all the skill he rocks and his size, he just doesn’t put all that together enough. He’s a poor mans Martone where there is a lot of soft skills but he needs to up his physical game. Lakovic is not aggressive enough with his skillset, meaning I want him to demand and control more. That isn’t about size but about attitude. Still, he’s an interesting player to track because if he puts it all together, that’s a top 6 winger. 17. Logan Hensler, RHD, 6’2.5” 198lbs 18. Cameron Reid, LHD, 6’ 183lbs 19. Benjamin Kindel, C, 5’10.25” 180lbs 20. Vaclav Nestrasil, RW, 6’5.5” 185lbs 21. Bill Zonnon, C, 6’1.5” 185lbs 22. Braeden Cootes, C, 5’11.25” 183lbs 23. Max Psenicka, RHD, 6’5” 185lbs 24. Malcolm Spence, LW, 6’.75” 190lbs 25. Jack Murtagh, RW, 6’0.5” 190lbs 26. Cole Reschny, C, 5’10.75” 180lbs 27. Blake Fiddler, RHD, 6’4.5” 220lbs 28. Cullen Potter, 5’9.75” 172lbs 29. Cameron Schmidt, LW, 5’7.5” 160lbs 30. William Moore, C, 6’2.25” 180lbs 31. Matthew Gard, C, 6’4.75” 195lbs 32. Nathan Behm, LW, 6’1.75” 202lbs * indicated that I did not have a combine height and weight measurement

Paul Hamilton was on WGR this morning speculating that Peterka has more of a problem with Lindy Ruff than he does with Buffalo or the Sabres. He might be careful what he wishes for if that is the case.

Meds, lots of “take me to my happy place” meds. or Psychodelics, ya, pretty sure mind alterings can bring me back to memories of playoff runs. short of that, I don’t know.

Has to be an established top 6 forward coming back, no? I mean, don’t get me wrong Ink, I think the Sabres can absorb losing Peterka and a player like Quinn with no issues, since we have no where to climb but up. But I don’t think a trade like a Peterka asset is about honoring the players feels about not wanting to be here. I think it’s about pulling this team out of the basement. But hey, I realize it’s Adams. We have a lot of assets, I’m just thinking he’s not going to trade for picks or futures, but a here and now deal.

I'm going to see the Counting Crows saturday. I really know nothing about them though 🤷‍♀️

Damn it! I totally forgot to add the, "Hope?? Are you serious, with this leadership?"

It all depends on what we get back, To me Byrum is the best option to move if get a top 4 RHD back or a top 6 F.

Moving on from Mattias Samuelsson would give me hope that the Sabres are capable of correcting their mistakes. I still haven’t forgiven him for having no reaction to the Tage cheap shot against New Jersey. And he wears a letter. Your best player is face down and Muel wants to ask what happened? Pack your ***** bud.

Unless we take a very bad salary and get a 3rd team involved I can't see them getting us anything we'd want. I mean almost their entire roster is over aged.

I’ll take Cernak off their hands for JJP straight up. I doubt he’s waiving his NTC though.