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Sure. But the team was not awful in the Granato years. Which isn’t meant as a full-throated defence of Granato. I reject that this group of players is incapable of playing better, more structured and consistent hockey. The 3rd goal last night was a great example. The lack of situational awareness and attention to detail is startling. There is 8 seconds of 5v3 to kill and we immediately get out of position and chase, leaving Huberdeau for a back door tap in. Just continuous failures to execute basic strategies. It’s not all on Ruff, but he has been truly awful for this team.

We could win this one, but I am not sure. Who is in goal again?

Idk if start it over is where I am at, but I think they need another rebuild. How much of a tear down is open to debate but this team is a spent force.

Benson deserves no more than a bridge at this point. I too love him but agree with everything said here. I think Tuch gets moved before the deadline, they are barreling towards another rebuild.

I didn’t stay up but I woke up to 7-4. Nobody will probably agree but you gotta start this thing over.

I agree on Tuch. I think a good GM would find a way to use the $10 million more wisely over the course of the 6-8 years. Of course, we don’t have a good GM. Also, I will add that a Benson extension should be relatively cheap. I love the kid, but he has 2 goals in his last 51 games and has gone 33 games without a goal. After his great start to this year, he has 5 assists in his last 13 games. Though he brings a lot of other things to the table, forwards who score like he does simply don’t get big contracts.

The problem is he has shown zero signs of changing. He wants things his way, he's probably more stubborn and less open to outside suggestions... It appears in even most other billionaire owners. And as long as he has the bills... He has one professional sports team that he can turn his head towards and look at when things are on fire with the Sabres he doesn't care. It's like... He would rather lose doing things his way with him involved in decisions... Rather than win but have to admit he's been wrong and do things where he has less control or input. The guy won't even make a public appearance, he won't even do a press conference, for years. (Not that that's the worst thing in the world seeing how he bumbles and stumbles through them) Accountability? Why should anyone in this franchise be accountable..from the coaches to the general manager to the scouts to the players... When the biggest coward with the least accountability is the guy signing the checks.

Correct! No NHL ownership group or individual continues to employ a GM with the track record of Kevyn Adams. Only one: The Buffalo Sabres. It all starts there.

It’s a futile exercise to go into detail about which players are not contributing to this poorly matched roster. The sabotaging problem isn’t about any particular player as it is the hollow organization led by the invisible owner and his handpicked clueless GM. It doesn’t matter in what field of endeavor you are in. When the organization’s primary decision makers are grotesquely incompetent, the outcome is very predictable. When you have an owner who doesn’t recognize his own hockey ignorance that is glaringly evident to everyone else, then you will continue to fail. The worst thing that happened to this franchise is that it was bought by Terry Pegula. He may own a big boat but ever since he took over this franchise has been sinking. You don’t have to make a deep analysis to come up with such an obvious conclusion. The owner’s obtuseness and stubbornness is enraging.

Pegula and Adams have been the terrible mistake.

Yes but they've also had some good games. Maybe it's because he's coming off the injury, but Greenway positionally has been much much worse this year than even in the past. Maybe last year it wasn't a disaster. Putting him with types in temporarily, with this year, with how he's playing, it made zero sense... And the results last night showed. And remember, they were out there against Calgary. They're not back on their heels, playing Colorado's first line, or a healthy Panthers team. To not generate any offense... Any scoring chances at all... Versus Calgary is beyond unacceptable

Thompson and Tuch have had their share of bad games this year without Greenway.

A quick look at the analytics from the lines last night and a couple of things stand out... Even strength, I think it's the worst offensive performance from Tuck and Thompson all year. No official scoring chances... No official high danger chances... And that was with Greenway on their line. Other than Greenway sinking that top line last night, there were a bunch of different line combinations, but the next two worst combinations had one thing in common... Jack Quinn. Both of them were signed to extensions and that was a mistake. But right now Quinn and Greenway are back to hurting this team compared to some of the younger guys who could be playing for them. But yet keep on playing them because we have to justify those bad contracts.

After a somewhat better start, I have felt that Jack Quinn has almost fully reverted back to his awful 2024-25 form. At least for one game, The stats totally verify that.

Entirely disagree with this. They are playing to a 73 point pace right now; that’s below what they played in Granato’s 1st full season when their key players were younger and the line-up was dotted with Wil Butcher, Andres Bjork, John Hayton, Aaron Dell, and Dustin Tokarski. In Granato’s next two years, with a younger core than now, they played to two games below DeLuca .500 and had a goal differential of -2. In a season and a 1/3 under Ruff, the Sabres are 17 games below DeLuca .500 and have a -35 goal differential. We act sometimes like we have been embarrassingly bad year after year. For 3 seasons under Granato we either met or exceeded reasonable expectations, based on the roster, every year. Ruff was a terrible mistake. He has had precisely the opposite impact that he was brought in to provide.

Paid attendance at home games is 16,608 so far this year...up slightly from 15,998 last year. So the only really 'important' fans, as of yet, are not saying "Enough is enough". Far from it. Lets see what it looks like after this road trip though I guess.

The dearth of leadership at all levels… Will anyone stand up and say “Enough is enough”? (Besides the fans)

What!? It can't be! No one could have seen that coming. I thought for sure a below replacement level player would thrive on an nhl top line.

Pfft was really 5-3. Yeah still loss on to the oilers

For me absolutely not. He's a fan favorite (if this team has any of those anymore, he's one of them). Hes still going to be near the top of your scoring list at the end of the year barring injury. But that is THIS year, you are signing him for the next 7 or so after this year. As I posted 2 days ago, his analytics are already sliding. His skating stats/analytics have been going down 3-4 years in a row. When a team signs a bad contract, usually the fan base (or the team itself) says something like "how could we know he would be one of those players that age would catch up on so quickly?" Well, with Tuch, the signs are there, the stats on his skating are there. His overall stats are trending. Not just this year, but over the last few years. I'd much, MUCH rather spend tha money on Doan and Benson and i guess Kesserling..maybe resign Malenstyn and fill out the othe 2-3 spots in the roster you will have next year.

3 minutes, 30 seconds, 1 minute. That's the time gap between pulling within one goal and letting in another (excluding empty net). I didn't see the game, so can't fully comment. However, my chief complaint of UPL is not his stats, but that he never makes the save when they need it most. Those time gaps certainly seem to support it.

Just woke up and saw the score…

It would be great if they were fired on this trip and Pegs said “find your own way home”. But, that’ll never happen.

Two mote empty net goals given up! Woohoo! That gives the Sabres 12 and a 2 goal lead on Florida!