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I don’t want Tavares. He's not a playoff winner. The Sabres need someone who is a winner to be the other Zucker on the squad. Preferably at RHD.

Relax guys; it’s not that bad. Look, we could be the leafs!

They are defacto punting another season away because Terry doesn't want to pay Kevyn the last year of his contract to make him go away.

I dunno. We Packers fans are pretty bad.

It’s because you are missing the point: it’s less about celebrating another team’s failures as it is the leafs failures being positioned to suggest the sabres “actually aren’t that bad”. You get that that’s the play, right? See

If anything my hangup with Marner would just be his cap hit all else being equal. You’d be trading Peterka, Byram and a bit more just to get Marner + 2 league minimum guys. Im not trading Power for futures to fit him in either as we become no better than the Leafs, until this past season, with having little on defense and most of our money up front.

The forwards also play defense. But the D-corps is too young. If they wait until Dahlin is in his 2nd to last year of his contract, then Power will finally be entering his prime. But therein lies the problem. That’s the plan. That’s it: lock them up long term and eventually Power will be good enough to warrant the long term deal because you’ll have 2 ice-tilting D-men skating 50 minutes every regular season game and more in playoffs. There is no rush to get to the playoffs before then. There is no goalie plan to be in the playoffs in the next two seasons. It’s just wait and see. That’s the plan. And if that fails because Ottawa becomes a juggernaut… or if Levi isn’t Miller or better… then GMKA and Darth Pegulas the Wise have no other workaround except to blow it up again because Dahlin and TNT will request out.

I disagree. We have seen considerable turnover at forward the last 3 years to get to a better group. They aren't nearly as soft and they are much much better defensively. Gone are Skinner, Cozens, Mitts, VO, KO, Girgensons, Jost, Eakin, Hinostroza, Bjork, and Asplund and honestly we are better for it. Guys like Greenway, Benson, Kulich, Zucker and Norris (when healthy), play with much more grit, guille and defense than the guys listed above. Until we fix the D and G, we honestly won't know how the forwards will stand up in the playoffs. That said Tuch was solid in his playoff games with LV.

This isn't really accurate any longer. Zucker, Norris, Tuch, McLeod, Benson, Greenway, Kulich, Kozak and Malenstyn are all solid to excellent defensively. TNT and Krebs are improved. JJP is a work in progress, but is no longer a consistent liability. The forwards' d awareness really isn't an issue any longer. Now add that they were 10th in goals (only 2 goals behind the Leafs), 4th in 5 on 5 goals with 185 and 4th with 191 in all EV situations, the offense isn't the issue with this team, except the awful PP which is solvable with better coaching (IMHO). This past season with had 6 forwards score 20 plus (TNT had 44 and Tuch 36). We had 2 more score 15 (Quinn& Kulich) and 2 more score 10 (Krebs and Benson). We have plenty of capable scoring forwards. Benson and Kulich should continue to improve their scoring given their ages. The issue with this team is the 287 GA (4th worst in the NHL) - Bad goaltending and incompetent defensemen. Over the last 4 years the Sabres have allowed 287 (25th), 297 (26th), 243 (12th), 287 (29th). Our 114 GA over the last 4 years is 7th worst in the NHL over that period while our 1031 GF is 13th best. I repeat, the issues with this team are poor defensemen and goaltending. When Anderson and Reimer are the 2 best goalies over the last 4 years it's easy to ID that problem. Now add the revolving door of crap D besides Dahlin and that problem is also easy to identify.

I am not sure that the Sabres forwards can hold off collapse until the post season starts. If one is inclined to point and laugh at the Leafs forwars for collapsing in the middle playoff rounds, how can you not look cross eyed at a Sabres forward group that couldn’t see this through the regular season? The forward group is skilled enough. It severely lacks guile, grit, and role players. This forward group is the most talented, least overall effective I can think of. It needs an enema just as the D and G do.

Considering his TOI, I hardly ever hear Marner's name in the playoffs.

FWIW- From coverage of his farming days, it appears the Martin family was doing quite well. But farming took priority over hockey.

If you don't live amongst Leafs fans and their media, I can respect how you think we observers are just being petty. But when you're like me- a Sabres fan in Southern Ontario going back to the days when the Islanders were winning cups, you've seen and heard enough that this day is special. It's day when Sabres fans, Habs fans, Bruins fans, and anyone else from the area can come together as one... To celebrate another year of that oft talked about Yonge St parade not happening for another year. 🍻🥂

Ones that win.

And what a glorious, oh-so-Leafs elimination it was!

Pack it up, pack it in... Let me begin...

Well, unless he gets into at least 13 playoff games over the next 13.5 months, that bet is done. Still needs 95 more NHL games to reach the plateau with only 82 more RS games available for him to do it.

I'm still on the Noah Dobson train.

The part about swapping for the Leafs failures is laughable. The Bills are on the verge of a Super Bowl but some fans act like they are utter failures. Anything short of a title is unacceptable. As someone once admitted here, the Sabres making the playoffs would not change a thing. The point is to always be miserable about something.

Holy ***** it's 11

I’m nervous about McQueen’s injury. Given the usual inept management I’d worry they try to rush him. He needs to be able to get healthy and train to build up his frame a bit more before hitting the AHL. That being said, he looks like he would be awesome if healthy.

There was rumours telling that at some point during the season, but I also remember hearing Kreider had some injury issues this season. Hard to know what to believe. A deal with both Kreider and Schneider could be a interesting package if Rangers really want Kreider gone.

Dallas-Edmonton is an enticing matchup. Looking forward to that. Toronto is yesterdays news.