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I don’t want Adams making any moves

I just want a lot better. I'm repeating what I said earlier, but rather than that, I'd almost want Adams and the current front office to stay around a bit longer and things get REALLY bad so it puts more pressure on more drastic moves. I really see no reason to make just one move and have the team be 'a little' better and have that translate to a mid-80s point season and another year of mediocrity.

Then we're right where we are now anyways

Certainly when that extension would start next year and take him through his mid-to-late 30's. Not extended at $10m per year at 7-8 years. The deal can't be that big. If he insists on it...then he moves on.

I get it, I do. Its just, what if we get someone 'slightly' better, but that causes nothing else to really get changed with the team, the front office, the roster except 'around the edges'?

For all th back and forth about Terry v Adams and meddling v absent, it's clear Terry groomed Adams for this role. They are in absolute lock step. Theres no side to pick. It's a circle. The team is built in Terry's vision and Adams absolutely shares Terry's vision. There is some nuance to it. Terry meddles with GMs who don't share his vision and is "absent" with GM's who do. I don't think Kevyn is a "Yes Man". A yes man implies they just do whatever the boss says. Kevyn 100% believes he's doing a good job, 100% believes he doesn't need more cash, 100% believes all the people are in the building. So does Terry. I suspect that any changes will result in Appert as HC and Forton as GM. @Thorny and @mjd1001 are arguing different sides of the same coin. There needs to be change at GM. It's our only chance. But the odds of Terry making a good hire and staying out of the way are remarkably low.

This is why I’m still hoping Adams is fired and the franchise starts over. And this is why I don’t hold out much hope for the success of whoever succeeds Adams.

“The solution is in this room” Fire KA

This is slowly forming in my mind as well.

Anyone and I mean anyone else is better. Anyone.

Peterka should have been signed, If I’m Tuch I play out my time and hit free agency

Jarmo isn’t the answer, he couldn’t do it with Columbus

This team might not win a game all of October

Wawrow’s tweets this morning need to be considered when discussing the Tuch extension. In the Bruins game day thread. This team is missing veteran leadership that hates losing. Tuch is a veteran. Can we say he’s a leader of men à la Josh Allen or he hates losing à la Drury? Not playing ability…leadership characteristics. Tuch is a good player. One of the boys and fits in just fine. Good in front of a camera. But he’s not what I hoped he would be at lifting a team up and demanding accountability. He’s just not. And if I’m a GM, I don’t want that type of guy to be my highest paid forward. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be extended. Just saying this needs to be considered. Nice dude. Not currently a part of the solution of needed leadership on this team as a 29 year old veteran.

There is a case to be made that no individual owner has owned a team this long and done such a poor job with it. There's a really strong case that he is the worst owner in the history of a major professional sport in recent memory in North America.

That would be a blessing because he is not a 10 mil+ player.

Fine, but then there's the worry that I always come up with. Who replaces him? If it's somebody that's currently in the room... There's a chance that person has been part of the decision making. That's led the roster to be where it is... And you may not get that much of a change. I also wouldn't want them to find a currently out of work GM who has passed his prime. Pegula needs to have the mentality like he had when he bought this team... Money is no object. Find the best guy that is available or even might be available and get word to him that you will at least double the last salary he had. We're to the point now where you're paying close to or over $10 million for certain players. If you're going to get a new general manager... Pay what you have to to get the best... Even if that means giving up some of your control and decision making to that guy in addition to the money. I don't have confidence. The current saber ownership... Still.. is willing to do that with a new GM hire. So two games into the season. I'm almost at the point of rooting for this to go off the rails. Really really bad. Why? I don't just want a general manager changed and have him replaced with someone similar. I'd want the majority of the front office changed, for Terry pegula to actually have a press conference where he says there will be more major changes on the roster side of things also, And for those changes to not be after a period of a long evaluation. This whole thing started with the tank.. it started with blowing things up and that was a mistake almost 15 years ago? I feel like at this point the only way to correct that mistake is to do it again and wipe all of what is this franchise away. You know why I might not be happy if they announce Kevin Adams is fired tomorrow? It has nothing to do with me thinking he's doing a good job. It has to do with the fact that a move like that now will likely mean someone else will slide into the spot and not much overall will change. There needs to be massive changes..

Couldn’t agree any more. It doesn’t matter the industry, we’ve all worked for upper management that were clueless or don’t act like they care. It can be incredibly demotivating.

Wawrow nailed it. The culture change happens with a new owner or TP completely changing his stripes. I don't see either happening. Fire Adams? Sure. Next up are guys who wouldn't get a sniff anywhere else. They'll owe Terry. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Thought they had 4 chances in Beantown. If so, 0-8. Heckuva job there, Appie.

If ruff said it’s unrelated to his previous injuries, that would mean no oblique or shoulder injury. What did he do, pop a rib? I guess he could have strained the other oblique.!never saw a non-contact injury like this - he’s so fkn fragile it’s pathetic

it was an interesting experiment. It failed spectacularly, but it was interesting. Now that there are so many schools with sports management programs, wonder if there'll be any case studies done on these past 5 years. Figure there have to be, right? Presumably they'll switch gears back to conventional wisdom next year; but they really need to make that happen now. They should hold the purge right after they get stomped by the Avs. Maybe if they (ownership) show the good players that they do get it and they will get them support then they won't all want to desperately be gone. This roster isn't that far away if they could add 2 or 3 pieces AND get NHL caliber coaching. Can Adams, let Jarmo or Karmanos decide how to try to make improvements for this season and if they're doing well let them stay on next year; if they aren't, well you have a clean slate to fix the FO and coaching.

Kevyn Adams has to go. Now. Not tomorrow, but now.

What blows my mind about Culture is that McDermott and Beane changed it quickly for the Bills. No matter how much Adams hangs out with Beane he still doesn’t have it. Sure, the Bills hit a grand slam when they drafted Allen, but let’s not forget that they made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor at QB to end the drought, and they did it while starting a tear down and rebuild. They owned the drought from day 1. McBeane shipped out some “good” veteran players that were not leaders. They retained a few vets that were leaders. They brought in leaders and did not rely solely on draft picks. They set real goals for players, not just slogans. Sabres Culture had been a problem for way too long. When you are always one of the youngest and least experienced teams you won’t win in the NHL.