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It will be interesting. People talked a lot about McQueen’s back injury, but setting that aside, as a player he reminded me of Kirby Dach. I preferred Mrtka.

Yes…..Adams is simply using Tuch as an excuse for not spending to the cap. It’s not true for 2026, but Kevyn needs any excuse he can for not spending TP’s money. This team simply LIES about anything to justify it’s incompetence.

Dont see the Blues interested in Krebs after signing Suter but I do see a Neighbours and Fowler combo as very much something the Sabres would focus on. Pretty much exactly

I’d put the McLeod deal in and take the Norris deal out

😘 Nice talking to you.

Neighbors, Fowler & a lottery protected 1st for Byram, Krebs and our 26 3rd (Stole this from a guy on Twitter)

Storbak, Mertka, and Robrock? I could live with that.

You can't say Norris is better than anybody. Until proven otherwise he's Tim Connolly 2.0. There's an extremely likely possibility that at 26, he's near the end of his career. He's had 3 years of shoulder injuries. Zucker is not definitively better than Ott. He scores more, but Ott was a more physical presence. Comparing Quinn and Girgensons is stupid, but no he isn't. Girgensons was very reliable and often the best player in our bottom 6. Doan is unknown. he might not even be an NHL level talent. Kaleta was definitely better than Danforth thus far. Benson should be in the AHL absed on production thus far. Kulich is not yet on par with Ennis who was a routine 20G scorer. Thompson + Tuch + McLeod is probably slightly better than Vanek + Stafford + Girgensons at that point int heir careers. But the rest of our group is a mess. Cool. None of that is relevant, because we have no idea who will play the most games this year. Maybe adams does a firesale in october -february like we did in 2013. All you can judge is the plan going into the year.

This is a trade that most likely benefits both teams. We dealt a good young player for two players that not only can help us but will help alter the mix to toughen up the unit. Even if JJP is arguably the best player in the transaction that doesn't mean that the Sabres won't benefit more from the deal because we addressed a greater need area. What's still hovering over this team is the Byram issue. If he is traded and the return is a top two-line player, then the JJP trade looks even better. The irony is that there was a loud call to toughen up the roster. The JJP trade helps in that area. Trades are not an act of charity. You have to give up something of value to get something back of value.

The list I posted was the 12 forwards who played the most games that year. Vanek played 13 games. Weird that you’re hanging your hat on the likes of end-of-the-line Pat Kaleta and “physical”!? Mikhail Grigorenko, but they played 5 and 18 games respectively and combined for 3 points. The entire group you posted combined for 77 goals, or 3 less than just Tuch and Tage combined. That team finished with 27 points less than this year’s team despite having Ryan Miller in goal. If you want to follow @thorny’s lead and say you liked that forward group more, fill your boots. But by no objective measure is it better. Not even close

Gimme Buddy Nix selling Super Mario on the drought Bills.

I dont think that is a stronger roster than Benson - Norris - Thompson Zucker - Kulich - Tuch Quinn - McLeod - Doan Greenway - Krebs - Danforth Kozak Tage better than Vanek, Norris is better than Hodgson, Benson is probably not yet better than Stafford in goal scoring but is a better 2-way player so we will call that a push. Zucker is better than Ott, Kulich is at least on par with Ennis although I guess we have to give it to Ennis until Kulich proves that. Leino v Tuch... come on now. Quinn is better than Zemgus. McLeod is better than Grigorenko. Doan is better than Flynn. Greenway is better than McCormick. Krebs and Larsson are probably equal-ish. Kaleta and Danforth are similar enough. So the 2013 roster beats out Buffalo maybe when we compare Stafford to Benson, maybe Kulich is worse than Ennis playing center and then... no where else. For some it is laughably not close. The Sabres forward group is far better than the group they started 2013 with.

Don’t know that yet. McQueen has the health issues and Mrtka has a ton of upside. Kid is very young for the draft and hasn’t played a ton of high level, coached up hockey and still was Seattle’s go to dman when he came over during the season. Wait a couple years and see.

That's not the opening day line. The below is, which is a far stronger grouping. 2013 was also widely recognized as a teardown rebuild year, and we still had a stronger group than we have now. I actually like that whole roster makeup better than what we have now outside of Leino. Ott, Girgensons, Grigorenko and Kaleta were all very physical players with Stafford and Vanek not easy to push around either. That team had big holes and lacked a premier player in their prime like Tage is. Thomas Vanek Cody Hodgson Drew Stafford Steve Ott Tyler Ennis Ville Leino Zemgus Girgensons Mikhail Grigorenko Brian Flynn Cody McCormick Johan Larsson Patrick Kaleta

Should drafted Roger McQueen over Radim Mrtka.

^ young fool. Only now, at the end, do you understand

That’s our Stanley Cup.

Which is perfect, because Adams (who will still be GM), can then trade him for a cost-controlled player who is a RFA in 2028. The circle is complete.

Logjams at the 4th line aren't a good thing unless you have an over abundance of prospects you're trying to bring into the league. Yeah sorry I can't see trading a top or second line Dman for a bottom 6 forward and bottom 4 Dman.

If Poltapov comes over in '27, yes, he'll be on an ELC for 1 year (provided ages for ELCs don't change in the new CBA). If he hangs out 1 extra year in Russia, nope. 25 year olds don't go into the Entry Level System. So, he'll cost the Sabres whatever he costs to get him to put pen to paper on a contract.

And more recently, JJP. And Kulich was nearly a 2nd rounder, being picked at 28. 2nd rounders are not the garbage people are making them out to be.

Nowadays, not many. Back in '06 there were a LOT of arbitrations. But both teams and players seem to be better about working a deal out on their own without a 3rd party mediating (arbitrating, whatevs) the discussions.

Power will be harder to play against once we invest another 1637494 resources into finding him the right partner....

Oh, I'm afraid Pegula’s deflector shield Kevyn Adams will be quite operational when your friends arrive.

Minny would never but ya Folgino back is just such a no brainer its crazy Kolesar is also one ive wanted for awhile and I think the Sabres have too, I remember a few years ago there was rumors that he was almost traded here Whitecload and Kolesar for Byram,, it just works, then figure out the forward log jam after