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And he was one of the forced fumbles, right?

I'd give him one more start at some point in the next week. As down on him as I am, he played on short notice without much practice and it was the teams 2nd game in as many days. That all said, my leash would be short.

The way this team bounced back after starting 0-3 it would be a slap in their faces to continue with UPL. Their hard work and good play got them into a playoff spot and the chance to sweep a back-to-back against a rival. Send a message that mediocrity will not be tolerated.

So, he had the stats to go along with the eye test that he was causing them trouble. 🍺

Is the question what we'd do or what we expect Adams to do? Expect Adams will roll with the 3 headed monster for a month or 2; but doubt that Ruff gives either of the 2 backups much work. Hopefully Ellis gets more of it than UPL but don't have a good feel for which one will get the bulk of the ones Lyon doesn't get. Personally, would keep UPL on the big squad as the 3rd goalie until he either gets back to form and then would give him A game to see where he's at or until they have to risk putting a guy they don't want to lose through waivers as guys come back from IR at which point he'd get waived to Ra-cha-cha because honestly don't see anyone trading for him with his current deal and would be shocked if anyone made a claim on him. (Presuming you need to punt him to not risk losing somebody else on the 23 man roster after IRs start to get healthy) Let him split time with Levi or backup Levi in Ra-cha-cha until/ unless Ellis shows he's not ready to be the backup on the big team. Should that occur, reevaluate. Should UPL play too well to stay in Ra-cha-cha, then try shopping him again when he might have some value. And in ANY case, get him a sports psychologist or a life coach or whatever you want to call someone to help him get out of his own head on the ice. You've got too much money invested in him to just let him waste away, or even worse, to torpedo another season showing some potential because you don't want to just waste the money by not playing him.

Hoecht had 3 tackles, 1.5 sacks, and 1 TFL. Can’t find number of pressures.

What to do with this guy?

Bills needing a WR that can stretch the field, a tale as old as time.

Hoecht seemed disruptive though not sure he had much in the way of personal stats. Never noticed the other guy. But Eddie O, until he broke again, Bosa, and Epinesa all were getting the personal stats. Expect Hoecht was a big part of that.

Glad to see you're on the 0.600 pace per a set of games segment team. Personally like to look at it in 5 game segments; but poe-tay-toe pah-tah-toe. Take 6 points every 5 games or 12 points every 10 games. Get to 96 points through 80 games and expect you'll need 3 points out of the last 4 which puts you over that magical 0.600 NHL threshold; but you can probably get away with only 2 of those last 4 points. (And there've been a lot of years that you can get by with less and MAYBE you'll be able to do so again; but shoot for 96 through 80 and 99 through 82 and you are almost guaranteed to be in the dance.) Win Tuesday and then figure you have to go 3-1-1 over the next 5 to be able to just go 3-2-0 all the rest of them. One other thing that's good about looking at 5 game segments rather than 10 is even if you've gotten ahead of the pace; look to win 3 of the next 5. Always look to win 3 of your next 5 unless you're behind the pace you need in which case getting 6 of the next 10 points in the minimum acceptable outcome and know you've really got to do a bit better than that. It's a doable mindset. Getting to 6 of the next 10 points keeps an urgency (well, sure we just dropped 4 in a row, but all we need is a 6 game winning streak and we're back to good vs we just dropped 2 in a row; we need the next 3 and let's start with this one) without seeming too daunting. Winning 6 of the next 10 might seem a slough; but just winning 3 out of 5, easy peazy. (Even though in reality they're the exact same thing.) Should they get the win Tuesday (and they SHOULD), they've got 14 5 game segments plus the 2 bonus games at the end to get that 1 point they're behind pace made up. They've only got 7 10 game segments plus the 2 bonus games to make it up. One other way to look at it which is a slightly tougher pace, but builds in some cushion to the 0.600 pace is win 2 of every 4 road games (or 5 of 10, or whatever segment you like) and win 3 of every 4 at home. (You actually only need to go 3-1-1 every 5 (-7-3-0 every 10) at home if you're going 2-2-1 every 5 on the road (5-5-0 every 10); but 3 of 4 is easy to think of and work toward and you get 10 of those segments (plus 1 bonus game) to get there.

How were the d-line reinforcements today? I can’t tell at all what they’re doing from the stands.

And see the source of this kid's confusion. When I said if they believe in UPL they should've given him the starter's net in practice tomorrow and the game on Tuesday, meant in a world where Ellis got the start last night. Not in a world where Georgiev or somebody else got that start. So, when you said they should give the next one to Lyon, somehow read that as they should've given the next one to Lyon from the perspective of Saturday AM. D'oh!!! And while was leaning towards giving Ellis Tuesday's start and then Lyon Thursday and Saturday; would rather go Lyon, Ellis, Lyon (and if he gets little enough work on Tuesday, run Lyon, Lyon, Lyon).

Yeah....I was confused by that comment. How does a game between 2 other teams not involving the Sabres, and where the Sabres are slotted in the standings on a single day in October, impact the point total they will get...which is based on the games they play? I mean, you could possibly argue the players look at the standings in mid October and really REALLY care where they are slotted, and that makes them push or stress out in their next game and makes their game worse? But that is some multi-dirivitive thinking there.

You are wrong, in the context of the post I responded to. We were stating that the teams around them in the division, in separate games, won. Those other games not involving the Sabres in no way has anything to do with the Sabres getting to a certain point total. If Montreal defeats Philadelphia, and Boston beats Columbus, that has zero tangible, immediate impact on the Sabres chase to 95 points.

Ah, thanks. And yeah, go Lyon, Ellis, Lyon (C-Bus, B's, Caps).

I'm curious: who plays goal Saturday? Lyon? Levi?

And now KC comes to town.

The math I mentioned was how old I’ll be the next time they’re here.

Wait, first let us know if Zucker is back?

Bills get off the scheid. They looked ok, a 40 - 9 win is welcomed. Running the ball was easy today with Cook, but after that we have nothing in the backfield. Passing game looks mediocre still. I just do not like the WR group other than Shakir. Allen's feet and his reads are not up to par still, but I still point to the WRs not getting open. I am not sure that Brady isn't get outmatched either. Defense was better with Hoecht in the lineup. Losing Oliver has become a theme for this team. The rookie CB made a play or two. The Panthers were supposed to be better than this. Next week is KC at home, this game was just a warm up. We will learn much more next week. Go Bills!

Exactly. Which is why UPL should not have been put on the Sabres roster until the maximum allowed days of his conditioning assignment were met. They needed to give a few more games to Ellis. Now, in a year with playoffs as the focal point, the Sabres are conducting goalie tryouts during the regular season. Unfortunate circumstance and some of it is self-inflicted.

Taro I was talking about the next game versus Columbus, not the Saturday Toronto game. 100% Lyon needed a rest.

It's still open, and I'm taking my opening. Poopyface 🤔😉

I just don't see the issue. You just waive UPL. I mean you call every GM and ask but after they say no thanks to any trade you waive him. Sure it's a ridiculous contract for an AHL goalie but you did that and you live with it. Don't care what happens to Georgiev. There's been goalies with bigger contracts waived before by teams. It's not a radically new thing for a goalie to show promise and then lose it. Some get it back, some never do.

Exactly. I’m sure Adams told Ruff he will not UPL spend any time in ROC