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This is an interesting topic. I have a mixed response. Having grown up in Buffalo, when it comes to the Bills and Sabres, it's all about the product on the field/ice. I don't care at all about the rest of the entertainment experience (provided I can do the simple things like get a beer or take a leak during the game without missing 30% of the game waiting in line). I always arrive prior to kickoff/puck drop and stay until the game is over, regardless of the score. Even in a blowout, it's interesting to me to see how the backup QB performs or if the rookie winger scores a goal. That said, I have lived outside of Buffalo for quite some time now and have lived in big cities with most/all of the major pro sports teams. I have no interest in season tickets, but frequently come across tickets to games. For those games, I'm just as interested in the food, entertainment, music, betting, cheerleaders, and hanging out with the people I'm at the game with, etc. (or more) than the game itself. I have no problem arriving late or leaving early. For example, I went to an Arizona Cardinals-New Orleans Saints game. I really didn't care who won the game, but made a small internet wager on the game, just for fun. Whether I won my bet was more interesting to me than the game itself. Having a comfortable seat was important to me. If I'm at a Bills game, I hardly use the seat. I've been to NFL, NHL, NBA, and MLB games around the country and enjoy the event as a whole, but usually don't really care who wins. Every been to a mid-season NBA game? They're snoozers until the last 5 minutes. Or a MLB game before the pennant races start heating up? I find it hard to focus too much prior to the 8th or 9th inning. Over the years, I've turned down many free NFL tickets (mostly Cardinals and Bears) so I could watch the Bills on TV. I'm just not invested in those teams, yet don't want to miss a minute of Bills action. The tailgate/pregame (and/or postgame) is often more interesting to me than the game itself.

For the purposes of this conversation, if there was an example in the sport of hockey to look around to your teammates and go "WTF GUY'S", the moment where you have to watch your own replay of being laid out because you don't even remember it, and all your teammates are just fingering themselves in circles is probably as good as an example as any. But at scale, we've had player issues, but more often than not players have been put into positions to fail or be middling compared rather than positions to succeed. Which was the base of my point of earlier. Like we can't even get reasonable production from a bottom 6 player like Rodriguez, whose playing in his second Stanley Cup Final, because we require him to be a top 6 forward. A position he's "meh" at.

Lets not pretend like the Bruins under the Jacobs and the Sabres under Pegula are even remotely comparable.

If we stay at 9 I'm wishing for Carter Bear but ultimately hope it's traded for a proven player.

When you have the talent to succeed but continuously make excuses and have no accountability eventually you end up having to look in the mirror. You can blame everyone else, but at the end of the day, they are the ones on the ice not getting it done. In life you can either make excuses or get results, never both. All the players on this team have done is make excuses.

But if the last game in FLA is any indicator of how tonight's game will go; drinking a shot when the SC is shown or mentioned during the broadcast will leave one significantly more sober than they'd be if they drink one every time Travis and Taylor Swift are shown/mentioned. Is there NO media at all that those 2 don't polute?

Ah, further back. Agree with Sam. I always thought they worked to keep Jack, but were unsuccessful, and ROR was more about the Sabres wanting to dump him than the other way around. But that entire COViD team was them happily sending them out the door: McCabe, Montour, Hall, Risto, Staal… I guess the tried on Ullmark. Curious what will come out of the Peterka situation once the dust settles as to the whys and the spin. But all that really matters to me is the result.

The game I knew Mattias Samuelsson had no place on my team.

Adams doesn’t want to know because he might have to tell Terry that he’s the problem and Adams is all about self-preservation. It’s easier to just say they don’t want to be here because what can you do? They’ve made up their mind they want to leave.

Because they don’t have a history of refusing to spend when the team isn’t making it.

^There’s one (see emoji reaction)

Ya he’s a mofo

Reason for hope: the Bills have the strongest roster they’ve had since the 90s. As for the Sabres, maybe dimwit KA gets lucky in a trade for Byram, Peterka, etc

Nothing. They are heading for another rebuild after they ***** the bed next season. This season they will lose Peterka and Tuch. After next season it will be Tage and Dahlin. One player will not save this team.

So don't beat up a guy from another team beat up a teammate to reset the culture? Sure, why not. Might actually win a fight that way. Team broke with Lucic Miller and it has never recovered.

If folks are watching the game tonight, don't drink a shot every time they show or mention the Stanley Cup in the building. Your loved ones need you alive tomorrow.

Adams isn't smart.

Can we just trade Pegula and 23 first round picks to the city of Boston to bring the Jacobs back home?

I thought we were all in agreement that like 96% of the problem with the Sabres was the org as whole. Especially after that Fairburn article that linked Pegula to Adams on basically day one. Ya learn something new everyday.

And the mofo's running the show don't seem to be smart enough to ask these guys who've all said they WANT to be here in the past (most of them multiple times as they've had multiple end of season interviews with coaches and management) what THEY (management) need to do to get them to continue to feel that way. IF your metric and a key factor in what players you want is a player WANTING to be a Sabre; well wtf are YOU (management and ownership) doing to KEEP these guys wanting to be here PLUS getting other players that aren't here to have the opinion that Buffalo IS a good place to play hockey and those other pleyers would wear the sweater WITH PRIDE? And the mofo's running the show don't seem to be smart enough to ask these guys who've all said they WANT to be here in the past (most of them multiple times as they've had multiple end of season interviews with coaches and management) what THEY (management) need to do to get them to continue to feel that way. IF your metric and a key factor in what players you want is a player WANTING to be a Sabre; well wtf are YOU (management and ownership) doing to KEEP these guys wanting to be here PLUS getting other players that aren't here to have the opinion that Buffalo IS a good place to play hockey and those other pleyers would wear the sweater WITH PRIDE?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/scouts-analysis-ranking-the-top-80-prospects-for-the-2025-nhl-draft/

I feel like if we had just one guy ready and willing to carry out a little locker room justice on a guy like Samuelsson, that would be the kick in the A this team needs. Sure, Samuelsson might cry his way outta town, but I'd hope the younger impressionable players would take note and get on board.

Remember when we hated on the team for switching to video scouting?

Maybe instead of looking for anyone else to blame and trying to leave these players should take a good hard look in the mirror and realize that they are the problem collectively and that they have the ability to provide the answers as well.

12 years. But otherwise, yeah