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I’m in anyone but Edmonton mode now, don’t think it would bother me too much if Toronto won today, other than thinking Florida might provide more of an obstacle for Edmonton I’d rather a Canadian team not win, all else being equal

If anything we completely ripped Florida off when we bagged Kulich.

Pick #9 Not a lot of top 10 picks have been traded in recent years. In 2022, pick 7 was traded (along with a 2nd and 3rd) for Alex Debrincat In 2022, pick 13 was traded (along with a 3rd) for Kirby Dach In 2022, pick 13 was traded for Alexander Romanov and a 4th In 2021, pick 9 was traded (along with cap dumps and a 2nd) for Conor Garland and Oliver Ekman-Larsson In 2021, pick 12 was traded (along with another 1st, a 2nd and Adam Boqvist) for Seth Jones and pick 32 In 2021, pick 13 was traded (along with a 2nd and Robert Hagg) for Rasmus Ristolainen Matt Savoie, 2 years after being picked #9 for Ryan McLeod also works as comparable Going a little further back In 2017 pick 7 was traded (along with Tony DeAngelo) for Derek Stepan and Antti Raanta Jordan Staal, Jeff Carter were acquired for packages built around pick 7 and pick 8 Corey Schnieder was acquired for pick 9, straight across

Thompson Tuch Peterka sports a GF% of 57.9 Thompson Kulich Benson is 55.6% Their most effective combo was Thompson, Kulich Peterka with 65.4% Best group in the league (minimum 200 minutes) was Fiala Byfield and Laferriere at 76.9% Some big name lines: Hyman Draisaitl McDavid 72.7% Knies Matthews Marner 61% Verhaege Barkov Reinhart 58.3% Lehkonen McKinnon Rantanen 55.6% Tkachuk Bennett Verhaege 44.4%

Most people don’t expect Adams to make a big move because Adams. But there is no shortage of Sabre names in the rumour mill. This thread is a place where we can discuss some of them, what similar assets have been traded for in the past, and what we might expect in return. To me, Byram is clearly on the table, as is pick #9 and any of our pipeline players. I think we also have to consider the possibility of Tuch and Peterka being moved due to their value and contract situations. And I think Quinn, Samuelsson and UPL could be had due to last year’s poor play and the need to upgrade their roster spots.

This is it. I don't really care about anything else but every year my playoff pleasure comes with annual Leaf whining and I want that to continue.

I have Florida, because……..Toronto. 😂

It's impossible to say though. Sometimes these (for lack of a better word) poor kids have a great work ethic and they are grateful and maybe have a chip on their shoulder but sometimes the bright lights big city also goes to their heads. You see this with some of the Russians for example. It's really impossible to say how it goes. Character is character and that's why you need scouts to go see them and talk with them and people around them and not just rely on video and analytics.

Is Dahlin playing for Sweden?

Benson, Kulick, Quinn and JJP all babies still. Best years ahead of them, but growing pains still ahead. Watching Florida and Carolina play you see how their forwards are defense first and then make the big plays in key moments. Have to work towards that. Hopefully they take a step forward next year to at least end the draught

The key is as a whole to me... as a whole they are lazy uninspired weak cowardly underachieving self centered losers that are better suited to the ice capades.

2020 was Covid year and Vegas is more western than south i think

Is pulock available? If so, great. Cannot always be opposed to a player aged 29-32 with term. Winning teams have them. Avoiding them is overly risky adverse imo

Juvenile humor. Not my style. (Wish I had said it.)

I think they are a bit overrated. Our top line is a descent scoring second. We lack a versatile top line that can adequately score and play two way hockey. From my perspective, minutes deserved, we have a second line, 2 third lines and a mediocre fourth line. This team is far from being competitive.

Some good players at forward. Very still young overall. A lot of similar style players and most of them lack a two-way game. They need another top 6 veteran, not sold on Norris due to health reasons but a good and healthy season from him would be a pleasant surprise. They need better play from the bottom 6 in the line up. Some true shut down players. Last off-seasons the 4th line remake was not a success. Get a guy that will punch the lights out of people and can play 4th line minutes.

Some excellent ideas here. Pulock is a guy we need but not at 5 X $6.1M for a 30 year old. Muel was supposed to be like this guy, but he has not been as we all know. Which is why you don't give big contracts to guys with 57 NHL games under their belt. Braden Schneider is intriguing but will be an RFA after next season and then we have another decision. Again, Muel's salary will become an issue.

Who you guys and gals got tonight? I would love for FLA to win it, but I have a sneaking suspicion that after the last home game, Toronto will come out screaming and win this one.

I might be interested in camping at ASP with Bowen before the moving truck gets there.

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Too young?

I’ve said it a bunch of times. Every player in this lineup is capable of being a good, contributing player on a good playoff team. But the roster sucks as built. I can speculate as to what I think it might be, but honestly, I am not sure. I just know that there is something significantly not right with this collection of good enough to be better than what they are players.

Outside of Tage, Tuch and JJP everyone is a big time question mark. I'd like to add another top 6 guy as Norris when healthy a good 2nd line C but still need another winger.

Hard to tell when the whole team brings each other down in certain ways. Guys I thought were not good would go to other teams and look so much better than I thought

How do you feel about the group of forwards we currently have?