GDT: Sabres @ Bruins, 7:00pm Oct. 30, 2025, 🎙 📺 ESPN+/MSG

[inkman]

Just now, inkman said:

Whether or not he shot or passed, Benson needs to get that puck to the other 3 player in a way better position to score.  If the pass want there, shoot it at Korpisal’s left pad.  Let’s do ourselves a favor here.  Zach is young, he’ll learn but a tough lesson in the win column. 

This post reads exactly as ***** up as I am right now 

[Wyldnwoody44]

Just now, inkman said:

This post reads exactly as ***** up as I am right now 

Senior drunken calves

On the throne 

[Mr Peabody]

Kruegeresque play going on with TT and Dahlin.  Has Lindy got them playing too tight?  

[Dryballs]

24 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Hoping just a retool, not a rebuild.  Fix the coaching and upgrade about 4 roster spots and they can be good.

Ruff not the problem. Should’ve been a talent “blood letting” long ago. Some of the most talented have been here too long. How can they not be frustrated as hell and lead the team when they’re sick o this….. Somebody other than KA gotta do a partial tear down if things don’t look up before too long….

Edited 6 hours ago by Dryballs

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, jad1 said:

Two 3 game losing streaks in the first 11 games.

Yes, but at least they picked up 3 points in these 3 losses.  Doing that several more times 3 years ago would've easily gotten them in the playoffs and could've had them in contention the last couple.

But now they need to stack some W's.

[JP51]

5 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

Sadly, they don't get the benefit of the doubt from fans (fair or not) 

For the first time in years, they had built up some goodwill, had their barn getting semi loud and fans starting to pay just a little attention.... 

Then they lose 3 in a row in the conference. Us here, we are diehard, we post relentlessly, have mock trades and share analytics.... Even so, some of us are barely hanging one.... What do we think the casual fans are thinking here. 

Something needs to flip soon or further risk of alienation is looming. 

Yeah officially moving into their last place spot in the division I see no reason that anything is different this year.... they dont make the playoffs and I think we are gonna see more players pull a Peterka. Dahlin,  Tage Tuch possibly the return will likely be in picks and prospects because of nmc's and the suffering moves into the 9th ring of hell... then Pegula makes his internal moves Adams to POHO Keko to GM Appert to HC and we rebuild with the same incompetent morons and horrific coaching... jmo

 

[Big Guava]

1 hour ago, jad1 said:

Two 3 game losing streaks in the first 11 games.

No difference in points between going 1-1-1 in this one tho. That's a big difference between what they normally do when they lose all 3 in regulation.

[PerreaultForever]

Well I guess you take some solace from coming back from being down but really, they let Boston play Boston's game and didn't press the center of the ice. Boston has so little talent they just kind of rope a dope and occasionally counter attack. Sabres needed to be more physical and drive to the middle. They didn't. They lost. 

I did find it highly ironic that Doan muscled through Jokiharju to create that tying goal. That was the kind of thing that has happened to the Sabres for years with guys muscling the likes of Jokiharju only now he's on the Bruins and Sabres did the muscling. I'm not impressed with Kesselring so far but don't want to judge too much too early. At this point though Doan seems the more important addition. He seems to be a welcome missing piece style wise. 

Greenway going knee on knee twice. Don't remember him being that dirty but I'd rather he used the body. Still, big man made an impact and got under the Bruins skin. Zadorov chirps more than Shorsey I think. He does amuse me. 

They are better, but it's not good enough. They need to go get another Doan. Whatever it takes. 

[DarthEbriate]

1 minute ago, Big Guava said:

No difference in points between going 1-1-1 in this one tho. That's a big difference between what they normally do when they lose all 3 in regulation.

But there is. Instead of giving up 4 points to three opponents vying for the same playoff positions, they gave up 6 points -- as many as possible.

[clink]

32 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Stillman.  (Probably already answered by somebody else.  Apologies if this answer was redundant.)

I remember that Jeannot name, too

And not for a good (Sabres) reason

 Mandela effect, maybe?

[HumanSlinky39]

Kevyn Adams' draft picks in the first 3 rounds since named GM

2020

Jack Quinn - not looking good. Has showed occasional flashes of being a decent offensive player, but at this point looks like he'll top out as a average-below average middle 6 winger. Need more out of a top-10 pick if you're going to build mostly though the draft- Looking like a miss

JJ Peterka - Developed into a pretty good offensive player but wanted out after 3 years. Netted Kesselrig who could be a solid addition and Doan who has been good so far - Hit

2021

Owen Power - Was pretty much the consensus #1 in a weak draft. But so far, it isn't looking good. Yes, defensemen take longer to develop, but he's now in his fourth full season and I struggle to identify one thing he's good at. Maybe he's a really late bloomer. Maybe he's a victim of lousy coaching. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Right jow it isn't looking good - Miss (though to be fair, nobody from that draft is anywhere near worthy of being your typical #1 overall)

Isak Rosen - Has 1 point in 15 NHL games and hasn't looked like he belongs when he's played. Not looking good - Miss

 4 second and third rounders have failed to reach the NHL

2022

Matthew Savoie - #9 overall, played 1 game in Buffalo then was traded for Ryan MacLeod. MacLeod was good last year, has been bad this year. He's probably best suited as a third line Centerman and penalty killer. Serviceable player, but a team relying so heavily on drafting needs to get more from a #9 pick - Miss

Noah Östlund - Hasn't scored a point in 12 NHL games. There's still time for him, but you'd hope a guy picked #16 three years ago woukdnat least be contributing something at this point - Miss

Jiri Kulich - He shows flashes of being a good hockey player, but also disappears for long stretches. What they've got from him isn't bad for a late first - Hit

Second and third round pick haven't reached the NHL.

2023

Zach Benson - I love watching him play. He brings it every shift and is developing into a pretty decent playmaker. He needs to develop a better shot and score more goals. Given he was thrown in the frying pan at 18, not much to complain about here - Hit

2 seconds and a third haven't reached the NHL.

2024

Konsta Helenius - too early to say here.

Second and third haven't reached the NHL.

2025 not gonna go too much into this as it's way too early.

Adam's has made 9 first round selections. None have developed into stars (yet). I'd say Benson and Kulich are his best picks. Quinn is teetering on bust territory. Power is nowhere near good enough. He traded a top-10 pick in Savoie for a third liner on a good team. Östlund and Rosen have contributed nothing. 

The only second or third rounder who has reached the NHL is Peterka from back in 2020. 

That's horrible for a team whose whole philosophy has been to build its foundation from within. Good GMs find guys in the mid-late first and second/third rounds. He's found Kulich. That's it.

He has failed.

Fire Adams.

Edited 6 hours ago by HumanSlinky39

[clink]

20 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

Sadly, they don't get the benefit of the doubt from fans (fair or not) 

For the first time in years, they had built up some goodwill, had their barn getting semi loud and fans starting to pay just a little attention.... 

Then they lose 3 in a row in the conference. Us here, we are diehard, we post relentlessly, have mock trades and share analytics.... Even so, some of us are barely hanging one.... What do we think the casual fans are thinking here. 

Something needs to flip soon or further risk of alienation is looming. 

And WHO was in net, to kick off the recent, downward trend???

Mr Buzzkill, himself 

Mega Meh

I swear, he's the inverse rabbits foot 

Get the bum OFF this team and just watch.... 

[PerreaultForever]

3 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

Kevyn Adams' draft picks in the first 3 rounds since named GM

2020

Jack Quinn - not looking good. Has showed occasional flashes of being a decent offensive player, but at this point looks like he'll top out as a average-below average middle 6 winger. Need more out of a top-10 pick if you're going to build mostly though the draft- Looking like a miss

JJ Peterka - Developed into a pretty good offensive player but wanted out after 3 years. Netted Kesselrig who could be a solid addition and Doan who has been good so far - Hit

2021

Owen Power - Was pretty much the concensus #1 in a weak draft. But so far, it isn't looking good. Yes, defensemen take longer to develop, but he's now in his fourth full season and I struggle to identify one thing he's good at. Maybe he's a really late bloomer. Maybe he's a victim of lousy coaching. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Right jow it isn't looking good - Miss (though to be fair, nobody from that draft is anywhere near worthy of being your typical #1 overall)

Isak Rosen - Has 1 point in 15 NHL games and hasn't looked like he belongs when he's played. Not looking good - Miss

 4 second and third rounders have failed to reach the NHL

2022

Matthew Savoie - #9 overall, played 1 game in Buffalo then was traded for Ryan MacLeod. MacLeod was good last year, has been bad this year. He's probably best suited as a third line Centerman and penalty killer. Serviceable player, but a team relying so heavily on drafting needs to get more from a #9 pick - Miss

Noah Östlund - Hasn't scored a point in 12 NHL games. There's still time for him, but you'd hope a guy picked #16 three years ago woukdnat least be contributing something at this point - Miss

Jiri Kulich - He shows flashes of being a good hockey player, but also disappears for long stretches. What they've got from him isn't bad for a late first - Hit

Second and third round pick haven't reached the NHL.

2023

Zach Benson - I love watching him play. He brings it every shift and is developing into a pretty decent playmaker. He needs to develop a better shot and score more goals. Given he was thrown in the frying pan at 18, not much to complain about here - Hit

2 seconds and a third haven't reached the NHL.

2024

Konsta Helenius - too early to say here.

Second and third haven't reached the NHL.

2025 not gonna go too much into this as it's way too early.

Adam's has made 9 first round selections. None have developed into stars (yet). I'd say Benson and Kulich are his best picks. Quinn is teetering on bust territory. Power is nowhere near good enough. He traded a top-10 pick in Savoie for a third liner on a good team. Östlund and Rosen have contributed nothing. 

The only second or third rounder who has reached the NHL is Peterka from back in 2020. 

That's horrible for a team whose whole philosophy has been to build its foundation from within. Good GMs find guys in the mid-late first and second/third rounds. He's found Kulich. That's it.

He has failed.

Fire Adams.

I agree. As a quick illustration of the failure, we all love Josh Doan right? Adams could have drafted him instead of Rosen, or as it turned out even instead of Poltapov. 

[clink]

5 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

Kevyn Adams' draft picks in the first 3 rounds since named GM

2020

Jack Quinn - not looking good. Has showed occasional flashes of being a decent offensive player, but at this point looks like he'll top out as a average-below average middle 6 winger. Need more out of a top-10 pick if you're going to build mostly though the draft- Looking like a miss

JJ Peterka - Developed into a pretty good offensive player but wanted out after 3 years. Netted Kesselrig who could be a solid addition and Doan who has been good so far - Hit

2021

Owen Power - Was pretty much the consensus #1 in a weak draft. But so far, it isn't looking good. Yes, defensemen take longer to develop, but he's now in his fourth full season and I struggle to identify one thing he's good at. Maybe he's a really late bloomer. Maybe he's a victim of lousy coaching. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Right jow it isn't looking good - Miss (though to be fair, nobody from that draft is anywhere near worthy of being your typical #1 overall)

Isak Rosen - Has 1 point in 15 NHL games and hasn't looked like he belongs when he's played. Not looking good - Miss

 4 second and third rounders have failed to reach the NHL

2022

Matthew Savoie - #9 overall, played 1 game in Buffalo then was traded for Ryan MacLeod. MacLeod was good last year, has been bad this year. He's probably best suited as a third line Centerman and penalty killer. Serviceable player, but a team relying so heavily on drafting needs to get more from a #9 pick - Miss

Noah Östlund - Hasn't scored a point in 12 NHL games. There's still time for him, but you'd hope a guy picked #16 three years ago woukdnat least be contributing something at this point - Miss

Jiri Kulich - He shows flashes of being a good hockey player, but also disappears for long stretches. What they've got from him isn't bad for a late first - Hit

Second and third round pick haven't reached the NHL.

2023

Zach Benson - I love watching him play. He brings it every shift and is developing into a pretty decent playmaker. He needs to develop a better shot and score more goals. Given he was thrown in the frying pan at 18, not much to complain about here - Hit

2 seconds and a third haven't reached the NHL.

2024

Konsta Helenius - too early to say here.

Second and third haven't reached the NHL.

2025 not gonna go too much into this as it's way too early.

Adam's has made 9 first round selections. None have developed into stars (yet). I'd say Benson and Kulich are his best picks. Quinn is teetering on bust territory. Power is nowhere near good enough. He traded a top-10 pick in Savoie for a third liner on a good team. Östlund and Rosen have contributed nothing. 

The only second or third rounder who has reached the NHL is Peterka from back in 2020. 

That's horrible for a team whose whole philosophy has been to build its foundation from within. Good GMs find guys in the mid-late first and second/third rounds. He's found Kulich. That's it.

He has failed.

Fire Adams.

Add in his, early overpay to UPL after his ONE quality 20 game stretch and Adam's opus is a tall pile of poo!!! 

Sorry, I'm on a "fire UPL into the sun" campaign at the moment 

[jad1]

39 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Hoping just a retool, not a rebuild.  Fix the coaching and upgrade about 4 roster spots and they can be good.

I don't know what you call it, but Benson, Doan, Kesselring, and Krebs are RFAs next season.  Tuch is a UFA.

Keeping all these players probably requires moving other contracts (Greenway, Quinn, UPL, Byram/Power).

Moving on from Tuch means trading a contributor before the trade deadline, probably for draft picks because the cap space will be needed for the RFAs.

Roster decisions need to be made, whether they are considered a retool or rebuild.

Edited 6 hours ago by jad1

[Taro T]

11 minutes ago, clink said:

I remember that Jeannot name, too

And not for a good (Sabres) reason

 Mandela effect, maybe?

No, Stillman is the guy that Jeannot destroyed.  In IIRC Stillman's 1st game in a Sabre uni.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[HumanSlinky39]

47 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Hoping just a retool, not a rebuild.  Fix the coaching and upgrade about 4 roster spots and they can be good.

Agree here. There is a foundation here, but it needs more help and MUCH better coaching. Maybe a decent coaching staff can make Power into more than a baby giraffe on the ice. Maybe they can salvage Jack Quinn. Maybe they can elevate Kulich. This isn't a team in need of a tear down rebuild. It needs a competent GM to tweak the roster a bit and hire a coaching staff worth a damn.

Edited 5 hours ago by HumanSlinky39

[Taro T]

23 minutes ago, Dryballs said:

Ruff not the problem. Should’ve been a talent “blood letting” long ago. Some of the most talented have been here too long. How can they not be frustrated as hell and lead the team when they’re sick o this….. Somebody other than KA gotta do a partial tear down if things don’t look up before too long….

On a certain level Ruff isn't the problem.  BUT he accepted ALL the assistant coaches when he was brought in wtihout bringing in any of his own guys (with the minor exception of demoting Ellis and moving Appert from Amerks HC to key AC and PP coordinator; which is just as bad, if not actually worse) and then after having worked with all of them for a full year didn't punt ANY of them (not even a demotion) and brought the entire band back except for the S&C coach.

Their coaching is bad.  Though will give Wilford credit for having the PK playing very well when it gets good GTing behind it.  Did NOT see even that coming.  And the fact that Ruff hasn't forced any real moves in that department says he's part of the problem too.

[RochesterExpat]

I’m not trying to derail the conversation, but was the ice condition tonight really poor or something?

Did anyone else notice this? Lots of players losing edges and pucks bouncing wildly?

It’s not an excuse either. It affected both teams noticeably.

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, RochesterExpat said:

I’m not trying to derail the conversation, but was the ice condition tonight really poor or something?

Did anyone else notice this? Lots of players losing edges and pucks bouncing wildly?

It’s not an excuse either. It affected both teams noticeably.

During the broadcast they mentioned the Celtics played last night.  That was the excuse used for why pucks kept bouncing wildly off one of the stanchions in the Sabres end.  Presumably that's why the ice seemed bad too.

[RochesterExpat]

1 minute ago, Taro T said:

During the broadcast they mentioned the Celtics played last night.  That was the excuse used for why pucks kept bouncing wildly off one of the stanchions in the Sabres end.  Presumably that's why the ice seemed bad too.

That would make a lot of sense. Thank you.

[Believer]

2 hours ago, SwampD said:

You knew how this game was going to go in the first, when Quinn got bear ('scuse the pun) hugged and no call.

And Dahlin took a stupid penalty right at the start. No focus and discipline.

[Believer]

2 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

How exactly did he ***** up? He blew a tire trying to make a smart play

 

 

Dahlin took a stupid penalty early in the 1st period that resulted in a Boston PP goal. Dug a hole for the team. 

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

No, Stillman is the guy that Jeannot destroyed.  In IIRC Stillman's 1st game in a Sabre uni.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

This is correct. Just as an aside, I think the reason the Bruins signed him to the overpay was he demolished Trent Frederic the year before and Frederic wasn't exactly a pushover. That sort of thing got Cam Neely all excited. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Have any of the Adams drafted Russians even come close to playing a shift in the NHL? Novikov, Komarov, Kisakov, Poltapov, Sardarian or Neuchev, none are even on the radar.  Even the two big Russian D, seem to be behind Metsa, Jones and Johnson on the depth chart.  Soon they’ll be passed by Mtrka.  Good thing Adams spent 2 2nds and 2 3rds on the Russian forwards.

Edited 4 hours ago by GASabresIUFAN