Sabres Announce a 10 year extension for the naming rights of Key Bank Center

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

I think he was just re-elected and his term runs through 2028. I don't know about term limits but he helped negotiate the Bills stadium deal which put all over-runs on Pegula instead of split with the county or state (not saying he did this himself but he helped in the process). 

Very often in politics one’s personality is more valued than one’s competency. As you point out, he showed competency in how he handled the stadium project and acted in the public’s interest.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, Mango said:

Maybe I'm wrong. 

Maybe? 🤔 

I think you're trying too hard. This is nothing more than a run-of-the-mill corporate image event...more for Key Bank than the Sabres.

No one is pulling a fast one. They said nothing is getting done until the new Bills stadium is done, which is understandable. Besides, the hand-off between county and city needs to be settled first.

 

 

[PerreaultForever]

7 hours ago, JohnC said:

I don't understand where you are coming from. At the event, there is an announcement that a local bank will continue with its sponsorship in the naming rights to the arena. It's a standard event involving the business side of the franchise. In today's world of generating income all arenas and stadiums have income generating sponsorships. So why are you so upset with how this particular event was handled? 

I'm not "so upset" about it I just think it's a joke. They made the big deal about the pending announcement and then that's it. So typically anti climatic because they actually have nothing of value to announce. All they did was give the internet the next great mock the Sabres meme with that shot of Terry in the helmet (that makes him look like an autism kid that crashes into walls). It was ridiculous.

 

[LTS]

14 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

I'm not "so upset" about it I just think it's a joke. They made the big deal about the pending announcement and then that's it. So typically anti climatic because they actually have nothing of value to announce. All they did was give the internet the next great mock the Sabres meme with that shot of Terry in the helmet (that makes him look like an autism kid that crashes into walls). It was ridiculous.

 

Did they make a "big deal" out of it?  All I heard was they announced there would be a public relations announcement at the arena at a certain date and time.  Isn't that how it is supposed to work?

I mean, I get I am not wired into the interwebs, but if they made a "big deal" out of it I certainly missed it.

I think people just want to complain, so go ahead and complain.  To me it's just being petty.

[PerreaultForever]

3 minutes ago, LTS said:

Did they make a "big deal" out of it?  All I heard was they announced there would be a public relations announcement at the arena at a certain date and time.  Isn't that how it is supposed to work?

I mean, I get I am not wired into the interwebs, but if they made a "big deal" out of it I certainly missed it.

I think people just want to complain, so go ahead and complain.  To me it's just being petty.

I was seeing a lot of pre announcement hype. "Big announcement" was used repeatedly. So it seemed like a lot of hype over nothing.

I'm probably spending too much time on Sabres twitter and the internet in general though. Probably should have shut it all down and taken a vacation. 

[LTS]

Just now, PerreaultForever said:

I was seeing a lot of pre announcement hype. "Big announcement" was used repeatedly. So it seemed like a lot of hype over nothing.

I'm probably spending too much time on Sabres twitter and the internet in general though. Probably should have shut it all down and taken a vacation. 

Was it used by the Sabres or by people on social media?  I just looked and I didn't see them saying it.

I mean, to be fair, a 10 year extension on naming rights and putting the name on the visiting helmet isn't necessarily a small thing. I'm not going out of my way 

[JohnC]

20 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

I'm not "so upset" about it I just think it's a joke. They made the big deal about the pending announcement and then that's it. So typically anti climatic because they actually have nothing of value to announce. All they did was give the internet the next great mock the Sabres meme with that shot of Terry in the helmet (that makes him look like an autism kid that crashes into walls). It was ridiculous.

 

As @LTS points out this is a standard press setting to announce a business arrangement. There are plenty of things to be upset about involving this owner and the hockey operation. Whatever irritation you have I recommend that you don’t waste it on this pedestrian event.

[shrader]

23 minutes ago, JohnC said:

As @LTS points out this is a standard press setting to announce a business arrangement. There are plenty of things to be upset about involving this owner and the hockey operation. Whatever irritation you have I recommend that you don’t waste it on this pedestrian event.

It's another great example of why the offseason sucks, making a big deal out of every single thing.

[Mango]

1 hour ago, LTS said:

Did they make a "big deal" out of it?  All I heard was they announced there would be a public relations announcement at the arena at a certain date and time.  Isn't that how it is supposed to work?

I mean, I get I am not wired into the interwebs, but if they made a "big deal" out of it I certainly missed it.

I think people just want to complain, so go ahead and complain.  To me it's just being petty.

They put on a drone show in the sky last night.

It sort of had the fanfare of a Wish NHL hockey club. Which the Sabres are.

[sabremike]

When the edibles kick in way too hard:

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

I'm not "so upset" about it I just think it's a joke. They made the big deal about the pending announcement and then that's it. So typically anti climatic because they actually have nothing of value to announce. All they did was give the internet the next great mock the Sabres meme with that shot of Terry in the helmet (that makes him look like an autism kid that crashes into walls). It was ridiculous.

 

Mods, please feel free to move this to the politics club if this is too political, but considering half the people here won't even remember who he was, doubt it's really all that political, and it isn't meant to be political.  Now, with all THAT said.

Does anybody else get a Dukakis wearing a helmet in a tank vibe from this photo?

[Mango]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Maybe? 🤔 

I think you're trying too hard. This is nothing more than a run-of-the-mill corporate image event...more for Key Bank than the Sabres.

No one is pulling a fast one. They said nothing is getting done until the new Bills stadium is done, which is understandable. Besides, the hand-off between county and city needs to be settled first.

 

 

I mean, frankly outside of Arizona, I'm not sure that there is less stable "home ice" situation than the Buffalo Sabres.

Pegula also made a big deal about the roof

Nobody wants KBC. The county has noped out. The city says the don't have the money.

Poloncarz implied that the Sabres would continue on as year to year for the time being.

Creating loads of hoopla around a building sponsorship for a building nobody wants to own is about as close as one can get to being a gong show.

I can't think of a comp in recent memory to the Sabres/KBC (including nobody wanting the arena with an expiring lease) across any of the major sports leagues.

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, LTS said:

Was it used by the Sabres or by people on social media?  I just looked and I didn't see them saying it.

I mean, to be fair, a 10 year extension on naming rights and putting the name on the visiting helmet isn't necessarily a small thing. I'm not going out of my way 

reposts and quoted posts. The way twitter goes. It's not important. You have given me pause to think maybe it's time to step back a little. 

I just feel so negative about the lack of change, the lack of additions. This is the most pessimistic I've been about a season before a season, and I have been pessimistic over the last number of years quite a bit. I just see zero hope for this year so it comes out in everything. I need to care less. 

[JohnC]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Maybe? 🤔 

I think you're trying too hard. This is nothing more than a run-of-the-mill corporate image event...more for Key Bank than the Sabres.

No one is pulling a fast one. They said nothing is getting done until the new Bills stadium is done, which is understandable. Besides, the hand-off between county and city needs to be settled first.

 

 

You make an excellent observation and point that the event was more to serve the interests of Key Bank that it was for the Sabres. The primary reason why they would pay to extend their sponsorship was to seek publicity. If there was no extension or no change in sponsorship there wouldn't even be an event. 

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

Mods, please feel free to move this to the politics club if this is too political, but considering half the people here won't even remember who he was, doubt it's really all that political, and it isn't meant to be political.  Now, with all THAT said.

Does anybody else get a Dukakis wearing a helmet in a tank vibe from this photo?

I don't remember that but I would say it just doesn't look right. If you're going to do that don't be wearing a suit. Wear Sabres merch head to toe or at least a jersey. 

[shrader]

15 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

I don't remember that but I would say it just doesn't look right. If you're going to do that don't be wearing a suit. Wear Sabres merch head to toe or at least a jersey. 

According to what they said on the radio yesterday, Rob Ray joked with him to put the helmet on, so he did. It was spontaneous, not planned. But hey, let’s continue with the witch hunt because we’re bored. 

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

Mods, please feel free to move this to the politics club if this is too political, but considering half the people here won't even remember who he was, doubt it's really all that political, and it isn't meant to be political.  Now, with all THAT said.

Does anybody else get a Dukakis wearing a helmet in a tank vibe from this photo?

A lot of the young fellows don't know what you are talking about. However, the old hipsters with bad knees remember that political crushing picture. 😀

Terry Pegula is not very comfortable in the public. (Stating the obvious.) There's a public awkwardness that is very evident. He bought a sports franchise and with it goes some public events that he can't avoid. I'm not saying this as a criticism but simply as an observation. It's a shame that his wife suffered a serious medical event that precluded her from handling those public roles because she was better at it. I wish her well. 

[Slack_in_MA]

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

Mods, please feel free to move this to the politics club if this is too political, but considering half the people here won't even remember who he was, doubt it's really all that political, and it isn't meant to be political.  Now, with all THAT said.

Does anybody else get a Dukakis wearing a helmet in a tank vibe from this photo?

thank you @Taro T

[dudacek]

Guelli told Marty that there are auto extensions built in that can be activated this fall and that is likely their path

[shrader]

17 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said:

thank you @Taro T

I saw one of his bumper stickers on a car back around 2012. It blew my mind. I know there’s a retro t-shirt thing going on right now with Reagan 84,  but it sure as hell wasn’t happening back in 2012 for Dukakis. 

[PerreaultForever]

52 minutes ago, shrader said:

According to what they said on the radio yesterday, Rob Ray joked with him to put the helmet on, so he did. It was spontaneous, not planned. But hey, let’s continue with the witch hunt because we’re bored. 

Didn't say it was planned. Said it looked stupid. 

[shrader]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

Didn't say it was planned. Said it looked stupid. 

Heaven forbid anyone ever has any fun. 

[PromoTheRobot]

29 minutes ago, shrader said:

Heaven forbid anyone ever has any fun. 

You know the drill.  Everything is stupid. Everything is a joke. Everything is a crisis. Blah, blah, blah.

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Mango said:

I mean, frankly outside of Arizona, I'm not sure that there is less stable "home ice" situation than the Buffalo Sabres.

Pegula also made a big deal about the roof

Nobody wants KBC. The county has noped out. The city says the don't have the money.

Poloncarz implied that the Sabres would continue on as year to year for the time being.

Creating loads of hoopla around a building sponsorship for a building nobody wants to own is about as close as one can get to being a gong show.

I can't think of a comp in recent memory to the Sabres/KBC (including nobody wanting the arena with an expiring lease) across any of the major sports leagues.

Well, no other NHL team has an expiring lease coming up. Dallas is next in 2030. But what exactly makes this situation unstable? Yes there is a question of who will end up owning the arena, but the arena is not going away. The Sabres have made no threats to leave, not overtly or covertly. So they will keep playing at KBC. Crisis averted. 

[Mango]

7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Well, no other NHL team has an expiring lease coming up. Dallas is next in 2030. But what exactly makes this situation unstable? Yes there is a question of who will end up owning the arena, but the arena is not going away. The Sabres have made no threats to leave, not overtly or covertly. So they will keep playing at KBC. Crisis averted. 

You are welcome to rewind the clock 30 years and come up with a super stable organization whose having fireworks over a naminf deal on a place nobody wants.

And what makes it unstable?

Well the owner has been bottom of the league in spending the last 5 years.

Our entire staff is a bunch of yes men that ownership keeps doubling down on.

It's the worst run of ownership in the history of the league.

The owner keeps divesting from other sports ventures not named the Buffalo Bills.