Sabres interested in Yegor Chinakhov?

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Hell no to Krebs and Helenius.  

Krebs and Helen-of-Troy instead.  

What about Krebs and non- first round pick?

[Pimlach]

Just now, Eleven said:

That's an overpay.

It probably will be down the road.  Krebs straight up, and then we cross our fingers. 

Personally, I want a known commodity top 6 player, not and injury prone player, or an over the hill player.  The Sabres just keep dabbling on the fringes of the roster and we  could end up with team of strangers with little veteran leadership - like last season.  

[DarthEbriate]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

What about Krebs and non- first round pick?

The Sabres have one of the least impressive center spines in the league (even if TNT plays center) and Norris is lucky to play over 55 games. 

Why are we wanting to trade a center who has gotten better in the dot every season (and is now not a complete liability at 49 FO%) and hits (136) and will actually defend his teammates, and put up 10 goals in 4th line minutes...

... for yet another oft-injured, non-hitting, quality-shooting winger whose best season is 16 goals and he hasn't had half as many in any other year despite getting 3rd line minutes? Goalofsson is a more dangerous and consistent scorer than Chinakov at this point.

[Pimlach]

6 minutes ago, JohnC said:

What about Krebs and non- first round pick?

How about they get out of the bargain bins and make a move for a known good player that is proven?   When will that ever happen?  

[JohnC]

Just now, DarthEbriate said:

The Sabres have one of the least impressive center spines in the league (even if TNT plays center) and Norris is lucky to play over 55 games. 

Why are we wanting to trade a center who has gotten better in the dot every season (and is now not a complete liability at 49 FO%) and hits (136) and will actually defend his teammates, and put up 10 goals in 4th line minutes...

... for yet another oft-injured, non-hitting, quality-shooting winger whose best season is 16 goals and he hasn't had half as many in any other year despite getting 3rd line minutes? Goalofsson is a more dangerous and consistent scorer than Chinakov at this point.

I like Krebs as an effort player. However, I see him as being very replaceable. 

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, Pimlach said:

How about they get out of the bargain bins and make a move for a known good player that is proven?   When will that ever happen?  

Most good players have no move clauses which limits our options in pursing bigger deals. It’s an ugly reality that this troubled franchise has to contend with. 

[Broken Ankles]

5 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I like Krebs as an effort player. However, I see him as being very replaceable. 

This.  One notch above JAG.  Noah waits in the wings.  Played solidly in his 8-game tryout last year. 

[Pimlach]

3 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Most good players have no move clauses which limits our options in pursing bigger deals. It’s an ugly reality that this troubled franchise has to contend with. 

Indeed.   This story has been replayed many times.  

 

[JohnC]

23 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Indeed.   This story has been replayed many times.  

 

I strongly believe that internal improvement by the young core(Power, Quinn, Kulich and Benson, and to a lesser degree Samuelsson) will be a big determining factor for success this season. It’s apparent that the GM is betting on it.For me, a big gamble is being placed on UPL by the GM. I’m very queasy about that.

Edited 2 hours ago by JohnC

[DarthEbriate]

9 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I like Krebs as an effort player. However, I see him as being very replaceable. 

Krebs is easily replaceable.

From production to health, Chinakov looks extremely replaceable, too. Moreso because he's a winger only.

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, DarthEbriate said:

Krebs is easily replaceable.

From production to health, Chinakov looks extremely replaceable, too. Moreso because he's a winger only.

I’m not wedded to Chenakov. Jarmo’s input about this player should be helpful. 

[Pimlach]

35 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I strongly believe that internal improvement by the young core(Power, Quinn, Kulich and Benson, and to a lesser degree Samuelsson) will be a big determining factor for success this season. It’s apparent that the GM is betting on it.For me, a big gamble is being placed on UPL by the GM. I’m very queasy about that.

So 25% of the young players must step up and improve AND let’s not forget that the top 25% must also stay heathy and have a good season, AND we have to get much better goaltending than last season, AND we have to fix the Power Play.   Team defense, team mental toughness, the ability to hold leads, the ability to avoid losing streaks -   There are a lot of factors that have to come together.  
 

Looking forward to it but right now I’m not sure they did enough. 

[LabattBlue]

I love when trade proposals pop up and include Krebs or Rosen.  One guy is trying to remake himself into a 4th line grinder, and the other will probably be back across the pond within a couple of years.  I doubt a single GM is calling and asking about either of them. 

[Eleven]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

What about Krebs and non- first round pick?

 

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

It probably will be down the road.  Krebs straight up, and then we cross our fingers. 

Personally, I want a known commodity top 6 player, not and injury prone player, or an over the hill player.  The Sabres just keep dabbling on the fringes of the roster and we  could end up with team of strangers with little veteran leadership - like last season.  

I think some people are way too quick to dump Krebs.

Edited 38 minutes ago by Eleven

[JohnC]

37 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

So 25% of the young players must step up and improve AND let’s not forget that the top 25% must also stay heathy and have a good season, AND we have to get much better goaltending than last season, AND we have to fix the Power Play.   Team defense, team mental toughness, the ability to hold leads, the ability to avoid losing streaks -   There are a lot of factors that have to come together.  
 

Looking forward to it but right now I’m not sure they did enough. 

KA is the GM. Did you expect boldness and creativity from him? 

[Thorny]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

Most good players have no move clauses which limits our options in pursing bigger deals. It’s an ugly reality that this troubled franchise has to contend with. 

This might as well be an ai response 

literally what the chat GP spits out for Adams’s press conferences 

Let’s do better here 

[LGR4GM]

52 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

So 25% of the young players must step up and improve AND let’s not forget that the top 25% must also stay heathy and have a good season, AND we have to get much better goaltending than last season, AND we have to fix the Power Play.   Team defense, team mental toughness, the ability to hold leads, the ability to avoid losing streaks -   There are a lot of factors that have to come together.  
 

Looking forward to it but right now I’m not sure they did enough.