So many 🔥 threads. But we still need goaltending.

[JoeSchmoe]

PSA- I'm just throwing out the reminder that for all the jostling of players, it's all meaningless unless we can improve in net. 

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

PSA- I'm just throwing out the reminder that for all the jostling of players, it's all meaningless unless we can improve in net. 

You are astute and perspicacious.

[mjd1001]

11 minutes ago, JohnC said:

You are astute and perspicacious.

The fact that rain, snow, or sleet is falling from the sky has nothing to do with it!

[JohnC]

Isn’t so much more fun talking about potential and made deals than to talk about the organization!!! 

[Turbo44]

Gibson is the answer if Buffalo is the answer for Gibson. What would the cost be? A 2nd and a prospect? UPL and a prospect?

[GASabresIUFAN]

25 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

PSA- I'm just throwing out the reminder that for all the jostling of players, it's all meaningless unless we can improve in net. 

The Sabres have been in desperate need of goaltending help for 4 years. 

[Flashsabre]

Gibson or Demko

[PromoTheRobot]

54 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

PSA- I'm just throwing out the reminder that for all the jostling of players, it's all meaningless unless we can improve in net. 

75% of NHL teams need goaltending.

5 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Gibson or Demko

Both who their fans think are terrible and would love to get rid of. 

[Night Train]

With todays work agreement, teams need a 3rd string emergency Goalie. 

I'm sure they'll send our Staal to scout the bars for candidates. 

[Turbo44]

22 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

75% of NHL teams need goaltending.

Both who their fans think are terrible and would love to get rid of. 

Gibson had a drop off until last year then bounced back to 2.67 and .917

Buffalo would kill for that

[PromoTheRobot]

14 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

Gibson had a drop off until last year then bounced back to 2.67 and .917

Buffalo would kill for that

UPL was what at one time? .945? Bounce is the magic word here. Goaltending is voodoo.

[Huckleberry]

Samsonov

[aristocrat]

Just bring Levi up. Let him sink or swim. 

[Big Guava]

Need to tell UPL he is in danger of losing his job...seems like he only plays well and stays focused when he has something to lose.

[JohnC]

13 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

The Sabres have been in desperate need of goaltending help for 4 years. 

The Ullmark departure really hurt the team. The GM didn’t have an adequate fallback position for the goalie who was URFA. It ended up being a reverberating mistake. 

[JohnC]

12 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

UPL was what at one time? .945? Bounce is the magic word here. Goaltending is voodoo.

An inconsistent goalie is an inadequate goalie. 

[MISabresFan]

14 hours ago, JohnC said:

Isn’t so much more fun talking about potential and made deals than to talk about the organization!!! 

Kinda takes your mind off things...

[JohnC]

34 minutes ago, MISabresFan said:

Kinda takes your mind off things...

Being constantly negative is exhausting. For a long time, the Sabres have been an irrelevant NHL team. Just maybe, the tide might be changing into a more positive spot. I really believe that if the front office handles this offseason smartly, it will inch up the ranks from irrelevancy to respectability. One step at a time moving forward instead of backward. 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

An inconsistent goalie is an inadequate goalie. 

Okay. But you can count consistent goalies on one hand, and teams don't trade them. So what you have to do is play better defense.

[JohnC]

8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Okay. But you can count consistent goalies on one hand, and teams don't trade them. So what you have to do is play better defense.

Washington got Logan Thompson and Charlie Lingren for miniscule prices. I would be very receptive to trading UPL to get a more experienced goalie added to the roster. As you point out, with goalies there are no guarantees of consistency of play on a year-to-year basis. But with Levi in the system I would be less reluctant to move UPL to get more consistent play from that critical position.  I also agree with you that the success of the goalie is inextricably linked to team defense. 

[PromoTheRobot]

7 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Washington got Logan Thompson and Charlie Lingren for miniscule prices. I would be very receptive to trading UPL to get a more experienced goalie added to the roster. As you point out, with goalies there are no guarantees of consistency of play on a year-to-year basis. But with Levi in the system I would be less reluctant to move UPL to get more consistent play from that critical position.  I also agree with you that the success of the goalie is inextricably linked to team defense. 

Vegas moved Thompson after he became unreliable. It's the classic example of "one man's trash/treasure." The trick is knowing which goalie will bounce back, or seeing something in the other team's play that contributed to that failure.

I think Linus Ullmark is a great example. He wins a Vezina as soon as he moves on from Buffalo's Swiss cheese defense in front of him. 

Edited 3 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[JohnC]

8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Vegas moved Thompson after he became unreliable. It's the classic example of "one man's trash/treasure." The trick is knowing which goalie will bounce back, or seeing something in the other team's play that contributed to that failure.

I think Linus Ullmark is a great example. He wins a Vezina as soon as he moves on from Buffalo's Swiss cheese defense in front of him. 

If you want certitude, you won't get it in the mercurial world of NHL goalies. If the Sabres would have gotten Ullmark caliber of goaltending, this team would be much better. I'm not shooting for the moon. What I want is consistent solid play in net. And as you point out, team defense that includes the blueliners and forward group are critical to the success of the goalie. 

[JP51]

I am not against getting a better goalie nor am I saying that we dont need to improve the D around them. But what I really want is to find out once and for all if Levi is that guy... if he is not then fine go get your guy or try again with UPL or whatever but at this point how much more AHL seasoning is going to be productive or do we have a Jody Gage in net... (clearly to early for that) I dont know the answer. I just want to find out going on his 4th pro year where he will turn 24. I feel like it may be time and maybe the answer is right here... if not move on , upgrade do what you need too