Sabres Trade JJ Peterka to Utah for Defenseman Michael Kesselring and Forward Josh Doan

[LGR4GM]

24 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Would be more accurately attached to the post suggesting that removing Peterka was addition by subtraction - but that’s not the name of the game anymore, I get it 

This is why I eye rolled you. This condescending nonsense right here. That anyone using the. Proceeding argument is part of some game. 

See, my reading comprehension is pretty good. 

[jad1]

1 minute ago, K012010 said:

It wouldn’t surprise me whatsoever if on day, one or day two of Jarmo been on the job that he told Adams to ship JJ out now while he still has high value (lowered because of our current league status unfortunately). 

This organization has enabled a ridiculous attitude of entitlement among this young contingent we’ve created. I’ve said this before, but it’s been a massive organizational failure on our ability to psychologically analyze prospects. And things like valuing high offensive potential over the ability to play to a hockey and also the desire to do it has contributed greatly to this mess. 

Kevyn failed massively with his experiment to go super young and try to build them all up together. Might have come closer to working if he had been able to psychologically analyze these and realize that they are the type too become entitled. I’m assuming a Tuch extension will be coming soon because he’s the type of player you actually want on your team. I hope we get rid of Quinn soon as well. 

Now that Kevyn has an actual babysitter, I think we can start shaping the team into one that actually plays as a team effectively.

I don't know about this.  Peterka is only 23.  Guys like Eichel and Reinhart have proven that a player can continue to grow immensely after they are 23.

If you really want to build a team from within, it requires more than just drafting well.  You need to create the right infrastructure and build the right culture to develop young players.

A undeniable argument can be made that Adams has completely failed at building this infrastructure.  

Peterka at 26 could be a much different player than he is at 23.  Sadly, the Sabres have no idea how to support that development under their current GM.

[CTJoe]

55 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

What happens if Doan gives us a 15g 25a season and Peterka puts up a 25g, 25a season?

I would theorize that Doan underperformed with 40 points in Rochester and Peterka was hurt for 30 games

[Thorny]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Meh, he's not my type. And I gotta run to a lunch meeting. 

No I don't. You struggled to realize why I eye rolled you. I'm not bothered at all, I think your series of posts here have been overactive. 

You literally typed out the idea trading JJ for nothing could be addition by subtraction was stupid. you agreed 

Too late buddy. Lmao

Edited 5 hours ago by Thorny

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Thorny said:

We can do the reading comprehension thing again: I don’t care about the emoji. I care you were so wrong. But like the sabres I should learn to be more accepting of such inevitable circumstances 

He would get lost on the way 

Oh sunshine. Lol

Just now, Thorny said:

You literally typed out that the idea trading JJ for nothing could be addition by subtraction 

Too late buddy. 

Where, show me. Show me where I wasn't responding to a direct thing you said in a different post? You wanna gaslight let's play. 

@Thorny you should work on reading comprehension. 

[K012010]

Just now, jad1 said:

I don't know about this.  Peterka is only 23.  Guys like Eichel and Reinhart have proven that a player can continue to grow immensely after they are 23.

If you really want to build a team from within, it requires more than just drafting well.  You need to create the right infrastructure and build the right culture to develop young players.

A undeniable argument can be made that Adams has completely failed at building this infrastructure.  

Peterka at 26 could be a much different player than he is at 23.  Sadly, the Sabres have no idea how to support that development under their current GM.

Well said. It’s undeniably alarming that Adams is still here because I do believe what you’ve stated is accurate about the organizational infrastructure. My hope is that Terry is just letting him save face while Jarmo is now. really calling the shots.

[Thorny]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Oh sunshine. Lol

Where, show me. Show me where I wasn't responding to a direct thing you said in a different post? You wanna gaslight let's play. 

@Thorny you should work on reading comprehension. 

you are such an angry little man lol. Please never change

you agreed with me that the idea of trading JJ for nothing being considered “addition by subtraction” would be stupid - candidly I don’t really care about any of the other noise you are throwing into the discussion as you always do. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Thorny

[darksabre]

Mommy Daddy stop fighting

[LGR4GM]

16 minutes ago, Thorny said:

it’s not the eye roll, it’s the fact you are so wrong about it 

Gaslighting is the act of disingenuously trying to make someone doubt their own belief. Disingenuous in this case because you are giving me an eye roll on a statement you agree with 

I would ask you straight up if you think a hypothetical JJ for nothing deal could be considered addition by subtraction, but I know you won’t answer. Too afraid to 

Here's you gaslighting claiming some nonsense about being afraid to say getting rid of Peterka for nothing makes sense. 

31 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Would be more accurately attached to the post suggesting that removing Peterka was addition by subtraction - but that’s not the name of the game anymore, I get it 

Post I eye rolled

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

This is why I eye rolled you. This condescending nonsense right here. That anyone using the. Proceeding argument is part of some game. 

See, my reading comprehension is pretty good. 

Me explaining it

Learn to read and be less thin skinned admit emojis

[SabresBillsFan]

Just throwing this out there but my guess is Kulich is going to get Peterka’s minutes and let’s face it everyone he can shoot the puck! 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by SabresBillsFan

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

you are such an angry little man lol. Please never change

Not angry. I think this is hilarious. You've gotten mad and started gaslighting every thing I say. It's objectively hilarious. 

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Sidc3000 said:

I don’t understand why people think Marner is even in the mix.  Why the hell would he want to come to the Sabres? 

Marner just had his first child and he may want to stay close to family. Plus he's a big Josh Allen fan. It's not much but it's something.

[GoPuckYourself]

3 hours ago, K012010 said:

This is one of those trades where Kevyn has to just sit there and take it from everybody deservedly so. 

But this is a great trade for us in my opinion. It’s time we build a ***** team that plays like a team instead of having a bunch of young talent/potential floating around acting like they don’t have to play two way hockey.

I’ve watched Florida closely over the last few seasons as most of us have and a guy like JJ is nowhere near their starting lineup. He doesn’t want to be a true NHL hockey player. He just wants to score goals and make plays. 

I’m telling you all that I’ve watched JJ very closely because I’ve had a bug up my ass about him for years and he is the laziest most entitled player I’ve seen at his age especially. 

JJ is only 23, he can develop into a 2 way player unfortunately our assistant coaches are trash and not helping at all, how they are still employed after 2 separate losing coaching regimes is only 1 the owner or GM can answer.

Edited 2 hours ago by GoPuckYourself

[Thorny]

4 minutes ago, darksabre said:

Mommy Daddy stop fighting

My son has a bad habit of losing his temper 

Edited 5 hours ago by Thorny

[SabresBillsFan]

I highly doubt Marner is signing in Buffalo. He’s has been linked to the Golden Knights, Kings, and the Ducks

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, darksabre said:

Mommy Daddy stop fighting

Don't worry, mommy's finished. Let's get ice cream. 

[Palm Trees And Taxes]

What would you all say to signing John Tavares?

[DarthEbriate]

40 minutes ago, ... said:

Does Doan make Krebs expendable? 🤔

No. Krebs plays center and has turned himself into a fair grinder/checker, he throws about twice as many hits per game than Doan (even with Buffalo's low hits statisticians for half Krebs' games). Doan is wing only, but still with upside.

[LGR4GM]

Doans really interesting to me. His AHL numbers are good and his NHL stuff is solid. 

[Thorny]

14 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

But we aren't being lied to. (Except by Sheevyn, a bit, but does he count?)

The owner said the new path of the team is EEE in 2020, and hasn't refuted that new direction in a press conference since. The purpose of the Buffalo Sabres is to keep your distance from the cap without looking like you're trying to keep your distance from the cap. I don't know, fly casual!

 

This could all change with one easy thing. Pegulas the Wise comes out next week and says, "our purpose is to win the Cup, EEE is over, I expect us to be at the limit of the cap and... Adams is relieved of his duties as GM. He's now my right-hand POHO guy." The odds of this happening are approximately 4,659,230 to one.

Well didn’t Adams say specifically that he was saving for the RFAs? Like we know that was what they WANTED us to think the plan was but I think he also outright said it multiple times

[DarthEbriate]

1 minute ago, Palm Trees And Taxes said:

What would you all say to signing John Tavares?

I'd rather have him as 2C than Kulich (this season at least, maybe not for the duration of the contract he'd need to sign), but I think his price tag will be significantly beyond what Pegula is willing to offer.

[BullBuchanan]

8 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:

I have a feeling we're going to really like Doan.

for the 1 year he's here?

[LGR4GM]

Just now, BullBuchanan said:

for the 1 year he's here?

He's an rfa, as is Kesselring. 

[FrenchConnection44]

Who knows. Given the way things have transpired with Sabres trades in recent years  I expect Peterka to be a 50 goal scorer in 2-3 years and going deep in the playoffs with Utah. Lol. 

That said, they got the kind of players they need. I know it’s not all that meaningful but Kesselring had 89 minutes in penalties last season. The most on the Sabres was Cozens with 62. After that Benson with 60. 

He has good size at 6’5, 215. Was positive in plus minus the past two seasons. 

Appears we got two players who bring a solid two-way, physical mentality who play with some grit. Which is one of the characteristics missing from the team.  

Not the be all but I asked ChatGPT about both:

Michael Kesselring is a tall (6’5”), mobile, right-shot defenseman who blends physicality, puck-moving ability, and improving offensive instincts—an ideal modern two-way NHL blueliner.

Defensive Strengths & Physicality

Strong, physical presence: Known for delivering hits, engaging in board battles, and using his size effectively. He logged 106 hits and 59 blocked shots in 65 games with Arizona in 2023–24  .

Solid one-on-one defender: Coaches praise his defensive fundamentals and ability to consistently win battles .

🚀 Mobility & Skating

Smooth-skating for his size: Scouts say he “moves the puck,” transitions well, and is agile despite being a big body  .

Reliably energetic: Regularly logs 18–20 minutes per game, with early-season top-pair minutes and power-play duty in Utah  .

🎯 Offense & Puck Skills

Rising offensive upside: In the AHL (Bakersfield) he erupted with 13 goals and 22 points in 49 games, and at one point in the NHL had 14 points and nearly 50 shots through 26 games  .

Point-shot threat: Coaches encouraged him to “get your shot through,” and he has responded with a hard release and increased scoring from the point  .

 

Here is what ChatGPT said about Doan:

Mentality & Hockey IQ

Elite mindset: Coaches describe him as singularly focused and mentally tough—emotionally resilient, hardworking, and adaptable  .

Leadership qualities: Skated with responsibility from college days to the pros; even as a freshman he had captain’s qualities  .

Summary

Type of player

Power-scoring winger with strong puck instincts

Key strengths

Fast, physical forechecking; quick release; high response to adversity

Potential role

Middle-6 winger who contributes energy, goals, and grit nightly

Mental makeup

Dedicated, focused, and coachable—a true competitor.

In short, Josh Doan plays with a blend of physicality, grit, and scoring savvy—a modern NHL winger who works hard on all three zones. With his relentless forecheck, willingness to crash the net, and mental toughness, he’s quickly built a reliable, middle-six role.

Edited 4 hours ago by FrenchConnection44

[Porous Five Hole]

This trade only makes sense if the Sabres are reeling in a big fish this offseason.  Instead of spending 7MM on JJP, the Sabres added physicality and RD. That’s what folks wanted this summer and they did it inexpensively.  

Kesselring, 1 year @ $1.4 million

Josh Doan, 1 year @ 900k (ELC)

I doubt it is Marner, but if this paves the way for Robertson, I’m good.  
If this was done for EEE considerations, then this franchise is truly cooked.  Have to hope it’s the former.