Tage on The Cam and Stuck Podcast - Talks Buffalo and the hit that nobody responded to

[Mango]

Pretty good interview. The whole thing starts at 1:26:00. It's longish at 45 minutes or so.

I'm surprised how candid he is.

He makes a few comments through out about how hard it is not to be in the playoffs, it eats away, how it drove other players to leave and he gets that at this point in his career.

Tage also mentions that he hears the noise about Buffalo and that it's hard not to.

He talks about the hit where nobody jumps in and says watching the replay he wishes somebody did but everybody apologized and Lindy leaned into the group about it. Start at about 2:06:00.

I wouldn't be shocked of he's the first one who asks out of here.

https://youtu.be/KGlLo7Kg_Os?si=IFH2aR8awEfIhgXI

 

 

[ponokasabre]

4 minutes ago, Mango said:

Pretty good interview. The whole thing starts at 1:26:00. It's longish at 45 minutes or so.

I'm surprised how candid he is.

He makes a few comments through out about how hard it is not to be in the playoffs, it eats away, how it drove other players to leave and he gets that at this point in his career.

Tage also mentions that he hears the noise about Buffalo and that it's hard not to.

He talks about the hit where nobody jumps in and says watching the replay he wishes somebody did but everybody apologized and Lindy leaned into the group about it. Start at about 2:06:00.

I wouldn't be shocked of he's the first one who asks out of here.

https://youtu.be/KGlLo7Kg_Os?si=IFH2aR8awEfIhgXI

 

 

I saw this on another board and it just made me mad all over again, i still cannot beleive no one, no one grabbed anyone!

 

I am back to wanting Samuelssen traded, I dont care if itd for nothing, I dont want him on my team if he will stand there and do nothing, hes gotta go

[dudacek]

Thanks for the link, will give it a listen.

I thought his frustration was pretty clear locker clean out.

 

[CallawaySabres]

It just reveals what we already know....this team is full of coasters who don't want to get their hands dirty and put in the work. It will be sooner than later when Tage adds his name to the list of people who will demand out of here. 

I started to think that it would be best to relocate for a year if you knew you could get a brand new team after the 2025 season. Either that or trade Dahlin, Tuch, Peterka and Tuch and start with a whole new group. It can't get any worse than it is now and maybe the next group will offer entertaining hockey once in a while. 

[Big Guava]

38 minutes ago, Mango said:

Pretty good interview. The whole thing starts at 1:26:00. It's longish at 45 minutes or so.

I'm surprised how candid he is.

He makes a few comments through out about how hard it is not to be in the playoffs, it eats away, how it drove other players to leave and he gets that at this point in his career.

Tage also mentions that he hears the noise about Buffalo and that it's hard not to.

He talks about the hit where nobody jumps in and says watching the replay he wishes somebody did but everybody apologized and Lindy leaned into the group about it. Start at about 2:06:00.

I wouldn't be shocked of he's the first one who asks out of here.

https://youtu.be/KGlLo7Kg_Os?si=IFH2aR8awEfIhgXI

 

 

 

Maybe instead of looking for anyone else to blame and trying to leave these players should take a good hard look in the mirror and realize that they are the problem collectively and that they have the ability to provide the answers as well.

[JoeSchmoe]

39 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

I saw this on another board and it just made me mad all over again, i still cannot beleive no one, no one grabbed anyone!

 

I am back to wanting Samuelssen traded, I dont care if itd for nothing, I dont want him on my team if he will stand there and do nothing, hes gotta go

I feel like if we had just one guy ready and willing to carry out a little locker room justice on a guy like Samuelsson, that would be the kick in the A this team needs. Sure, Samuelsson might cry his way outta town, but I'd hope the younger impressionable players would take note and get on board.

[Mango]

17 minutes ago, Big Guava said:

 

Maybe instead of looking for anyone else to blame and trying to leave these players should take a good hard look in the mirror and realize that they are the problem collectively and that they have the ability to provide the answers as well.

I thought we were all in agreement that like 96% of the problem with the Sabres was the org as whole. Especially after that Fairburn article that linked Pegula to Adams on basically day one.

Ya learn something new everyday.

[Mango]

37 minutes ago, CallawaySabres said:

It just reveals what we already know....this team is full of coasters who don't want to get their hands dirty and put in the work. It will be sooner than later when Tage adds his name to the list of people who will demand out of here. 

I started to think that it would be best to relocate for a year if you knew you could get a brand new team after the 2025 season. Either that or trade Dahlin, Tuch, Peterka and Tuch and start with a whole new group. It can't get any worse than it is now and maybe the next group will offer entertaining hockey once in a while. 

Can we just trade Pegula and 23 first round picks to the city of Boston to bring the Jacobs back home?

[PerreaultForever]

21 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

I feel like if we had just one guy ready and willing to carry out a little locker room justice on a guy like Samuelsson, that would be the kick in the A this team needs. Sure, Samuelsson might cry his way outta town, but I'd hope the younger impressionable players would take note and get on board.

So don't beat up a guy from another team beat up a teammate to reset the culture? Sure, why not. Might actually win a fight that way. 

Team broke with Lucic Miller and it has never recovered. 

[shrader]

36 minutes ago, Mango said:

Can we just trade Pegula and 23 first round picks to the city of Boston to bring the Jacobs back home?

Because they don’t have a history of refusing to spend when the team isn’t making it. 

[LGR4GM]

The game I knew Mattias Samuelsson had no place on my team. 

[Big Guava]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

I thought we were all in agreement that like 96% of the problem with the Sabres was the org as whole. Especially after that Fairburn article that linked Pegula to Adams on basically day one.

Ya learn something new everyday.

When you have the talent to succeed but continuously make excuses and have no accountability eventually you end up having to look in the mirror.

You can blame everyone else, but at the end of the day, they are the ones on the ice not getting it done.

In life you can either make excuses or get results, never both. All the players on this team have done is make excuses.

[Mango]

48 minutes ago, shrader said:

Because they don’t have a history of refusing to spend when the team isn’t making it. 

Lets not pretend like the Bruins under the Jacobs and the Sabres under Pegula are even remotely comparable.

Edited 4 hours ago by Mango

[Mango]

1 hour ago, Big Guava said:

 

Maybe instead of looking for anyone else to blame and trying to leave these players should take a good hard look in the mirror and realize that they are the problem collectively and that they have the ability to provide the answers as well.

For the purposes of this conversation, if there was an example in the sport of hockey to look around to your teammates and go "WTF GUY'S", the moment where you have to watch your own replay of being laid out because you don't even remember it, and all your teammates are just fingering themselves in circles is probably as good as an example as any.

 

But at scale, we've had player issues, but more often than not players have been put into positions to fail or be middling compared rather than positions to succeed. Which was the base of my point of earlier. Like we can't even get reasonable production from a bottom 6 player like Rodriguez, whose playing in his second Stanley Cup Final, because we require him to be a top 6 forward. A position he's "meh" at.

[oddoublee]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

So don't beat up a guy from another team beat up a teammate to reset the culture? Sure, why not. Might actually win a fight that way. 

Team broke with Lucic Miller and it has never recovered. 

I still remember where I was when I watched that game. Me and my friend were in silent disbelief. They were labeled soft from that point forward and never shook it. 

[Mango]

3 minutes ago, oddoublee said:

I still remember where I was when I watched that game. Me and my friend were in silent disbelief. They were labeled soft from that point forward and never shook it. 

That and the palm trees presser made me aggressively angry at this org. I've lost all trust in Terry Pegula ability to do anything other than age.

I wish no ill will, but.... I do hope he ages comfortably yet expeditiously and stays home...for forever.

[CallawaySabres]

Yup, soft, barely any talent, no goalie, washed up coach, and terrible management. I don’t know why i am surprised anymore. 

[dudacek]

1 minute ago, oddoublee said:

I still remember where I was when I watched that game. Me and my friend were in silent disbelief. They were labeled soft from that point forward and never shook it. 

Miller/Lucic is my choice for the most overwrought and irrelevant Sabrespace meme.

There is one player in the entire NHL from that team. It has about as much impact on the current players and their psyche as Darcy Regier's tie.

Yet here it is, still chewing on people's neurons.

By all means, punt Samuelsson into the sun and curse Adams for having Power and Kulich on the ice at the same time.

But please, let this one go.

[Weave]

1 season, maybe 2.  Maybe 2. That’s how much more losing Tage will take before he asks to be traded.

[Carmel Corn]

This is a "stink" that the franchise will never be rid of (kind of like the bad odor in Jerry Seinfeld's car).  Whether it's Drury, Ryan Miller or Tage Thompson....this team never has the toughness or will to have each other's backs.

[sabremike]

38 minutes ago, Mango said:

That and the palm trees presser made me aggressively angry at this org. I've lost all trust in Terry Pegula ability to do anything other than age.

I wish no ill will, but.... I do hope he ages comfortably yet expeditiously and stays home...for forever.

For the crimes he has committed against the hockey fans of WNY Terry should be dragged out to Alumni Plaza, be tarred and feathered and then put in stockade to be pelted with expired produce. I wish I had the power to wish him away into a cornfield like the Twilight Zone.

Just now, Carmel Corn said:

This is a "stink" that the franchise will never be rid of (kind of like the bad odor in Jerry Seinfeld's car).  Whether it's Drury, Ryan Miller or Tage Thompson....this team never has the toughness or will to have each other's backs.

The stink is the clueless putz who owns us.

[JoeSchmoe]

2 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

So don't beat up a guy from another team beat up a teammate to reset the culture? Sure, why not. Might actually win a fight that way. 

Team broke with Lucic Miller and it has never recovered. 

It's about Samuelsson letting his teammates down in the moment and being mad at that. It was his battle to fight, and he chose not to. Going out there and doing it for him is just what a softee like him is hoping for.

 

[Mr Peabody]

28 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

It's about Samuelsson letting his teammates down in the moment and being mad at that. It was his battle to fight, and he chose not to. Going out there and doing it for him is just what a softee like him is hoping for.

 

Not necessarily sticking up for Mule,  but if he jumps in and gets his a$$ kicked does that make TT feel any better?   Fire up the team?  The problem is roster makeup. Size doesn’t equal toughness or grit on this team.  I actually feel for Tuch when he feels obligated to jump in and do something he’s not very good at. 

[JoeSchmoe]

Just now, Mr Peabody said:

Not necessarily sticking up for Mule,  but if he jumps in and gets his a$$ kicked does that make TT feel any better?   Fire up the team?  The problem is roster makeup. Size doesn’t equal toughness or grit on this team.  I actually feel for Tuch when he feels obligated to jump in and do something he’s not very good at. 

I can't say for sure what the guys would think, but in my mind some effort and losing should be better than no effort at all. It also saves one of our stars' like Tuch from doing the job. 

 

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, JoeSchmoe said:

It's about Samuelsson letting his teammates down in the moment and being mad at that. It was his battle to fight, and he chose not to. Going out there and doing it for him is just what a softee like him is hoping for.

 

Yes Samuelsson is soft but no, it was not his battle to fight. It was every guy on the ice. It was every guy on the bench. There was a whole game to pay back and there was a whole team to offer it up but nobody did nothing. It's not on one guy, even if yes, he should also have done something and he was right there. It's the whole team!