Chad D: expect a Byram trade at or around the draft

[dudacek]

In his latest pod, Chad says he's "pretty confident they have decided what they are doing there."

He said the Sabres have had the necessary conversations and established the market and the interested suitors. Now it's just about deciding which offer to pursue and cementing the deal. They want this off their plate early to clear the decks for whatever comes next.

According to Chad, the Sabres have talked to teams that have multiple 1sts and told them a late 1st is something they would consider in exchange.

He's says that's not necessarily the return we should expect, but implied their priority with this deal is gathering assets and creating flexibility for other moves.

Edited yesterday at 03:42 PM by dudacek

[dudacek]

San Jose, Philadelphia, Nashville and Chicago are teams with extra picks in the 20s.

[LGR4GM]

Just now, dudacek said:

San Jose, Philadelphia, Nashville and Chicago are teams with extra picks in the 20s.

SJ and Chicago make a ton of sense. 

[bob_sauve28]

8 minutes ago, dudacek said:

 

According to Chad, the team is interested in/open to acquiring a late first and has talked to teams that have multiple 1sts and told them that is something they would consider.

 

Meaning they are willing to trade our first for a player now and a pick later the first round? 

[ponokasabre]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

SJ and Chicago make a ton of sense. 

San Jose makes all the sense in the world, Mario Ferraro and there late first rounder

Chicago to a lesser extent could do Vlasic or Connor Murphy plus a late first rounder

 

Then 9 comes into play in a Peterka for Robertson swap 

Just now, bob_sauve28 said:

Meaning they are willing to trade our first for a player now and a pick later the first round? 

You would have to assume this 100 percent

[inkman]

10 minutes ago, dudacek said:

In his latest pod, Chad says he's "pretty confident they have decided what they are doing there."

He said the Sabres have had the necessary conversations and established the market and the interested suitors. Now it's just about deciding which offer to pursue and cementing the deal. They want this off their plate early to clear the decks for whatever comes next.

According to Chad, the team is interested in/open to acquiring a late first and has talked to teams that have multiple 1sts and told them that is something they would consider.

He's says that's not necessarily the return we should expect, but implied their priority with this deal is gathering assets and creating flexibility for other moves.

So are the Sabres only interested in picks for Bo or is that what teams are calling with ? 🤷‍♂️

[dudacek]

Just now, bob_sauve28 said:

Meaning they are willing to trade our first for a player now and a pick later the first round? 

Meaning that the Sabres are willing to consider a late first in exchange for Byram.

He didn't specify if that was straight across, but didn't mention otherwise.

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Meaning they are willing to trade our first for a player now and a pick later the first round? 

Carter Bear could slide into the early 20s cuz his injury scares teams. Or not, once you get into the 20s this draft gets less exciting. 

[dudacek]

3 minutes ago, inkman said:

So are the Sabres only interested in picks for Bo or is that what teams are calling with ? 🤷‍♂️

He said some teams have asked if they would consider a late first, and they said yes, they would. 

He very specifically said that does not mean that will be the return or that they won't be considering other options.

[ponokasabre]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Carter Bear could slide into the early 20s cuz his injury scares teams. Or not, once you get into the 20s this draft gets less exciting. 

I agree 100 percent, there are a few players that are injured and could slide because of it, we are perfectly positioned to take one of those if we do acquire another first rounder

 

I am serious, lets right up this deal right now, Mario Ferraro and Dallas's first rounder for Bo Byram

Thats step one

[bob_sauve28]

3 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Meaning that the Sabres are willing to consider a late first in exchange for Byram.

He didn't specify if that was straight across, but didn't mention otherwise.

I think that would be awful! That's a rebuilding move 

[mjd1001]

I guess you take what you can get... But a late first is pretty bad. 

Look through the history of late first round picks, very few of them actually amount to much in the league. 

You'd be trading him for the proverbial lottery pick, but one without a high expected payout. And even if you win, you're not going to get that payout for years.

[ponokasabre]

1 minute ago, ponokasabre said:

I agree 100 percent, there are a few players that are injured and could slide because of it, we are perfectly positioned to take one of those if we do acquire another first rounder

 

I am serious, lets right up this deal right now, Mario Ferraro and Dallas's first rounder for Bo Byram

Thats step one

Mario Ferraro is a physical, steady, and dependable defenseman who can contribute offensively. He's known for his strong defensive play, particularly his ability to be a reliable penalty killer and his willingness to finish checks. While he might not be a top-pairing defenseman on a contending team, he's a valuable asset for a team looking for a dependable two-way player

[dudacek]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Carter Bear could slide into the early 20s cuz his injury scares teams. Or not, once you get into the 20s this draft gets less exciting. 

Chad said the purpose of the late 1st would be either flipping it or drafting a defenceman.

[LGR4GM]

5 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Chad said the purpose of the late 1st would be either flipping it or drafting a defenceman.

So Fiddler or Psenicka or Reid, uhhh Brzustewicz 

[LGR4GM]

Byram for a late 1st is not interesting to me. Maybe if there's something added but the difference between 27 and 37 in this draft is not much. 

[Pimlach]

40 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

SJ and Chicago make a ton of sense. 

He will help their rebuilds, but what do we get to help ours?  

[kas23]

27 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

Mario Ferraro is a physical, steady, and dependable defenseman who can contribute offensively. He's known for his strong defensive play, particularly his ability to be a reliable penalty killer and his willingness to finish checks. While he might not be a top-pairing defenseman on a contending team, he's a valuable asset for a team looking for a dependable two-way player

This sounds exactly like the player we needed Bryan to be, except for a LHD. Why not 1:1 straight up? Not saying I wouldn’t accept a draft pick in addition. 

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, Pimlach said:

He will help their rebuilds, but what do we get to help ours?  

[dudacek]

Byram for a late 1st would be a great deal for whoever is getting Byram 

[The Jokeman]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Byram for a late 1st is not interesting to me. Maybe if there's something added but the difference between 27 and 37 in this draft is not much. 

Exactly why trade a player for a prospect when the Sabres need players. IF I'm trading Byram I'd look at the Blackhawks who are littered with young Dmen, the one I like best is Sam Rinzel as he's a righty and only 20. 

[ponokasabre]

5 minutes ago, kas23 said:

This sounds exactly like the player we needed Bryan to be, except for a LHD. Why not 1:1 straight up? Not saying I wouldn’t accept a draft pick in addition. 

I think Byram as a 23 year old potential first line top pair defensman is more valuable then just Ferraro, as he is 26 had 17 points last year and was a -23, albeit on a crappy San Jose team

 

I do really feel that the value of Ferraro and the Dallas First that San Jose has is perfect value.

 

Ferraro Dahlin pairing would be so good

[LGR4GM]

See this is where I think Adams fails. He calls around, gets other teams offers and doesn't make strong enough counter offers. 

[ponokasabre]

6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Exactly why trade a player for a prospect when the Sabres need players. IF I'm trading Byram I'd look at the Blackhawks who are littered with young Dmen, the one I like best is Sam Rinzel as he's a righty and only 20. 

Yes but I just have no interest in us getting younger and adding a player who isnt ready. If Byram is going an older more established defensive defensman needs to replace him

[GASabresIUFAN]

So we traded Mitts to avoid paying him for 1 1/4 years of Byram who we didn’t need and don’t want to pay, so that we can now move Byram for a future asset which may or may not be used to acquire a defensemen who can play defense.  Sure why not!

What great management we have.  No wonder we are Cup contenders every year.

Edited yesterday at 04:22 PM by GASabresIUFAN