7+6=13 Posted Saturday at 08:42 PM Report Posted Saturday at 08:42 PM I believe we're one excellent forward/center away from having a legitimate roster, that's not only playoff bound but we could contend. That's without losing one via trade to acquire it. Quote
JohnC Posted Saturday at 09:18 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:18 PM 32 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said: I believe we're one excellent forward/center away from having a legitimate roster, that's not only playoff bound but we could contend. That's without losing one via trade to acquire it. If Robertson gets traded to the Sabres, we will likely be giving up at least two of our best young players to get him. There is no free lunch in this marketplace. Quote
inkman Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 09:20 PM 2 minutes ago, JohnC said: If Robertson gets traded to the Sabres, we will likely be giving up at least two of our best young players to get him. There is no free lunch in this marketplace. Yep. See ya Owen and Jiri. 3 Quote
JohnC Posted Saturday at 09:26 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:26 PM 4 minutes ago, inkman said: Yep. See ya Owen and Jiri. I would say no to such a deal. I suspect that most of the crowd here would say yes to such a deal. Quote
K-9 Posted Saturday at 09:51 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:51 PM If we do end up trading Power, I still maintain that we will regret having done so in 2-3 years. 3 Quote
CallawaySabres Posted Saturday at 10:15 PM Report Posted Saturday at 10:15 PM I would trade anybody on this team not named Dahlin. Make this trade happen please and bring some excitement back to the city. 2 Quote
Sabres73 Posted Saturday at 11:29 PM Report Posted Saturday at 11:29 PM 2 hours ago, JohnC said: I would say no to such a deal. I suspect that most of the crowd here would say yes to such a deal. Not me, that's a definite nope. 1 Quote
inkman Posted Saturday at 11:38 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 11:38 PM 2 hours ago, JohnC said: I would say no to such a deal. I suspect that most of the crowd here would say yes to such a deal. 1 hour ago, K-9 said: If we do end up trading Power, I still maintain that we will regret having done so in 2-3 years. 6 minutes ago, Sabres73 said: Not me, that's a definite nope. Therein lies the problem. Fans cling to the potential of a player vs cashing in while that player’s value is at it’s highest. I too think Power will be a great NHL player. I just don’t think Buffalo, as a team, their fans and the overall mental health of the city can wait another 5 years before the needle moves with this team. They need to fix it today. Attendance will be abysmal this season. Maybe then Terry will finally get the kick in the ass to make real changes to this team. 2 1 Quote
JohnC Posted Saturday at 11:52 PM Report Posted Saturday at 11:52 PM 7 minutes ago, inkman said: Therein lies the problem. Fans cling to the potential of a player vs cashing in while that player’s value is at it’s highest. I too think Power will be a great NHL player. I just don’t think Buffalo, as a team, their fans and the overall mental health of the city can wait another 5 years before the needle moves with this team. They need to fix it today. Attendance will be abysmal this season. Maybe then Terry will finally get the kick in the ass to make real changes to this team. Where I do agree with you is that the owner has almost irreparably damaged this franchise and fanbase. He’s a fool owner who doesn’t have the self-awareness to recognize how inept he really is. I wish he would go on his big boat and sail away. Quote
K-9 Posted Sunday at 12:04 AM Report Posted Sunday at 12:04 AM 24 minutes ago, inkman said: Therein lies the problem. Fans cling to the potential of a player vs cashing in while that player’s value is at it’s highest. I too think Power will be a great NHL player. I just don’t think Buffalo, as a team, their fans and the overall mental health of the city can wait another 5 years before the needle moves with this team. They need to fix it today. Attendance will be abysmal this season. Maybe then Terry will finally get the kick in the ass to make real changes to this team. I don’t disagree at all and I’m not gonna cry if Power is traded. I’m just saying we will regret it eventually. Quote
7+6=13 Posted Sunday at 09:58 PM Report Posted Sunday at 09:58 PM On 9/20/2025 at 5:18 PM, JohnC said: If Robertson gets traded to the Sabres, we will likely be giving up at least two of our best young players to get him. There is no free lunch in this marketplace. That's right and precisely why I made the comment. It's not so much about upgrading for me, it's that we need everything we have and one more not decent, excellent forward. Id consider trading for him but I don't think giving anything up at least in the top 6-8 work for me. Prospects in Rochester and picks, yes I would, but that's not going to get him. 2 Quote
Pimlach Posted Sunday at 10:48 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:48 PM On 9/20/2025 at 4:51 PM, K-9 said: If we do end up trading Power, I still maintain that we will regret having done so in 2-3 years. If the rest of the NHL GMs thought this then we could trade Power straight up for Robertson or other players of his ilk. Yet everyone here packages him with first rounders and top prospects. This is the year that Power has to make a significant improvement in his game. 1 Quote
K-9 Posted yesterday at 12:02 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:02 AM 57 minutes ago, Pimlach said: If the rest of the NHL GMs thought this then we could trade Power straight up for Robertson or other players of his ilk. Yet everyone here packages him with first rounders and top prospects. This is the year that Power has to make a significant improvement in his game. Regarding those other GMs, you may be assuming that Adams and Co. would trade him in the first place if they all came knocking nor do we know what his perceived potential is by other GMs around the league anyway. As for what everyone here would package him with and for whom, while amusing, it has no basis in reality at this point. My point about Power is this: while it’s nice that he might help fetch a player like Robertson, Robertson is fully formed and at his ceiling already. If Power reaches his ceiling, he will be every bit as good a Dman as Robertson is a forward and imo, Dmen that good are more valuable to a team. Agree entirely that Power needs to show improvement otherwise any point I have is moot. Quote
Huckleberry Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago On 9/20/2025 at 11:51 PM, K-9 said: If we do end up trading Power, I still maintain that we will regret having done so in 2-3 years. Yeah, when we drafted him, I had something on my mind of the Anaheim ducks having Pronger - Niedermayer on their defence winning the cup. Quote
Pimlach Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 12 hours ago, K-9 said: Regarding those other GMs, you may be assuming that Adams and Co. would trade him in the first place if they all came knocking nor do we know what his perceived potential is by other GMs around the league anyway. As for what everyone here would package him with and for whom, while amusing, it has no basis in reality at this point. My point about Power is this: while it’s nice that he might help fetch a player like Robertson, Robertson is fully formed and at his ceiling already. If Power reaches his ceiling, he will be every bit as good a Dman as Robertson is a forward and imo, Dmen that good are more valuable to a team. Agree entirely that Power needs to show improvement otherwise any point I have is moot. Fair assessment. We will revisit this in April and see how Power did. I want you to be right and I want to see it this season. Right now he is a big defenseman that does not have a physical game, has offensive skills are offset by his inability, or perhaps unwillingness, to play good defense. This could be the year, or he may not take the step we are looking for until 25, so we get his bottom 6 years. That means others have to be better and play more minutes. 1 Quote
inkman Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Posted 5 hours ago On 9/20/2025 at 4:42 PM, 7+6=13 said: I believe we're one excellent forward/center away from having a legitimate roster, that's not only playoff bound but we could contend. That's without losing one via trade to acquire it. They are still soft as charmin. Need to move out Power, Quinn, Samuelsson and Bryson. You can’t have players who avoid all forms of contact. 1 Quote
7+6=13 Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, inkman said: They are still soft as charmin. Need to move out Power, Quinn, Samuelsson and Bryson. You can’t have players who avoid all forms of contact. I never really thought about Quinn as one of the non physical players. Not that I'm disagreeing but I suppose I could have not paid enough attention to that, within the disappointment of his last season. I will disagree on moving out Power. It's not the time to do that yet. Bryson, I mean, it's not expected. He's just not that kind of player and he's a 14 min guy. Samuelsson, absolutely agree. He's the player I dislike the most on the team. I hope you're surprised that we're not as soft as you're expecting. Quote
Taro T Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said: I never really thought about Quinn as one of the non physical players. Not that I'm disagreeing but I suppose I could have not paid enough attention to that, within the disappointment of his last season. I will disagree on moving out Power. It's not the time to do that yet. Bryson, I mean, it's not expected. He's just not that kind of player and he's a 14 min guy. Samuelsson, absolutely agree. He's the player I dislike the most on the team. I hope you're surprised that we're not as soft as you're expecting. Before the leg injuries, Quinn was like a young version of Reinhart regarding contact. He'd get knocked down a lot but wouldn't necessarily lose the puck and he was pretty good at forechecking to get it back (and then get knocked down again without losing it, and so on and so forth). But he was way easier to get away from the puck last season and he wasn't nearly as effective at getting it back. Will be interesting to see which version shows up this season and we get our 1st glimpse of it tonight. Quote
7+6=13 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 26 minutes ago, Taro T said: Before the leg injuries, Quinn was like a young version of Reinhart regarding contact. He'd get knocked down a lot but wouldn't necessarily lose the puck and he was pretty good at forechecking to get it back (and then get knocked down again without losing it, and so on and so forth). But he was way easier to get away from the puck last season and he wasn't nearly as effective at getting it back. Will be interesting to see which version shows up this season and we get our 1st glimpse of it tonight. Agreed and Sam is an excellent comparison in the way he got knocked down. I guess I just don't think of Quinn as soft and avoiding contact. Maybe even in the same respect, that I never thought Sam was soft. I could be wrong, maybe he is. Hope not. We have it on. 1 Quote
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