JohnC Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Jorcus said: I don't know if I would rather keep Samuelsson but but an argument for him is that he has only played 212 NHL games and should be coming into the best part of his development curve. The injuries have set him back and his start to this year was truly awful. He seemed to improve in fits and starts as the season went on. We were thinking he was guy to be supporting Power when in fact he has played less NHL games than Power. Not a good formula there. There is a decent chance that Sammy rounds into a much better player. I think he was one of the guys they were sending a message to about reporting to camp in shape. Playing his off wing did not help things. He would not be the first large defense man to overcome early injury trouble if it happens. Then again he may just be what he is now. Both Byram 246 NHL games and Power 242 NHL games are right in the sweet spot of the development curve. You have to be a bit careful about letting guys go at this juncture but reality probably dictates one of them is going if not two. Another thing to think about, did any one in this group ever write we need to find a right handed D man to play with Byram? You gave a well thought out response. I prefer keeping Samuelsson over Byram for contract and style of play reasons. I also believe that we could get a good return, especially if packaged, for Byram. Our defense and roster need to be better shaped. Getting the right return for Byram will help on that issue. It should be noted that I do like Byram and believe that he has more upside. Edited 2 hours ago by JohnC Quote
mjd1001 Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 18 hours ago, Brawndo said: I'm good with most of those...maybe not on the Quinn and Byram numbers though. Quote
JohnC Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, mjd1001 said: I'm good with most of those...maybe not on the Quinn and Byram numbers though. I agree with you on the Byram number but disagree with you on the Quinn number. It seems reasonable. It gives the player an opportunity to show what he is capable of without the organization being saddled with a longer termed contract. Assuming Quinn is not dealt in the offseason, next season is a "show me" year for him. This is an important offseason where he has to come into camp stronger and demonstrate a greater willingness to play a harder brand of hockey. Quote
Mango Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Thorny said: We were always supposed to be winning when Tuch was on a bargain deal, we had ELCs, etc. the long form rebuild plan they sold was exactly what we said it was: economic job security It was always clear as day. Spend on quality vets while we take advantage of guys on ELC'S. And as the ELC'S end sub in the home grown extensions and that's when Kulich, Savoie, and even Bensonetc will come to fill the bottom of the roster. We really botched this one. There was a wide open window for the Sabres to really do this right and be a challenger and they botched it as bad as they've ever botched anything in the Pegula era. I think that's why this one hurts a lot more and I hate Adams/Pegula about as much as I've hated any rivalry in Buffalo sports history. We were right there! Quote
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