To everyone clamoring for the Sabres to trade the pick

[SabreFinn]

7 minutes ago, inkman said:

Every GM values the unknown more than the known.  They could draft a star at 9.  Rosen will be lucky to be a 3rd line NHL player. 

Agree on that. Might be necessery to trow in a 2nd or a 3rd and a 4th to make a trade including Rosen as interesting as the 9th.

[GoPuckYourself]

6 hours ago, inkman said:

Yeah Brady Tkachuk was the apple of many Sabres fans eye a year ago.  I think he’s cemented himself as their centerpiece and core player.  I doubt any package not involving Tage or Rasmus wouldn’t be good enough for him.  
 

As far as who else is available, if I’m KA (I know bear with me here), I’d call every team asking about their grittiest most intense actually good hockey player under 30 and see if some semblance of a deal can get done with Byram/Power, Quinn, Rosen, 9 OA whatever it takes.  

I don't even think it was a realistic option ever imo. 

[The Jokeman]

On 5/6/2025 at 11:10 AM, Drag0nDan said:

#9, JJP , rosen out -> Jason robertson in -- Might also try and see about swinging Dumba or Lundkvist if they're still looking for RHD.  

Or swap JJP and tuch.  Or benson or Östlund.  In any case - trying to make a move for robertson is the biggest move i can see out there with a player who has no clause, and a team that is in a cap crunch.  He's likely to get 11-12M AAV on a new deal after next season and I'm not sure they can keep him.  

https://puckpedia.com/team/dallas-stars

Seguin @ 9.85, Hintz @ 8.45, Rantanen @ 12 - thats about 30M in cap space.  Add in Johnston @ 8.4.  Heiskanen and Lindell.  Harley will need to get paid.  Oettinger's salary goes up as well.

Holy hell it feels like yesterday Seguin was traded to Dallas and now he's 33. 

[PerreaultForever]

On 5/6/2025 at 1:36 AM, SabreFinn said:

I think it could be wise to keep the pick and in 3-4 years have a player on a cheap contract to hopefully  put in the line-up. We have plenty of other assets to trade, like Rosen for example, that will never be roster players for Sabres but might be one on another team.

Rosen doesn't have the same value. You can't just trade the guys you don't think are any good for gold. Other GMs are not usually stupid. The pick would be viewed as having a much higher ceiling than Rosen who doesn't look like he can even make the NHL on a regular basis. 

We already have cheap incoming ELCs. 

[SabreFinn]

9 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Rosen doesn't have the same value. You can't just trade the guys you don't think are any good for gold. Other GMs are not usually stupid. The pick would be viewed as having a much higher ceiling than Rosen who doesn't look like he can even make the NHL on a regular basis. 

We already have cheap incoming ELCs. 

I don't think Rosen is the same value as the 9th pick. I just named him as one of the assets I think should be used to upgrade the team before we use our top pick. I don't dislike Rosen, I just can't see him get a roster spot in Buffalo, even If he is a top player in AHL. That puts him on top of my list of players to trade. If a trade can't be done without our 9th. Then trade the pick, I'm not against improving the team, just want whoever completes next trade to try other options first.

[inkman]

On 5/8/2025 at 5:03 PM, GoPuckYourself said:

I don't even think it was a realistic option ever imo. 

It was certainly a pipe dream. The team needs a heart transplant.  Tage and Rasmus just don’t have it.  Not saying they aren’t great players or could be a part of a contending team. The Sabres need an infusion of intensity.  One that isn’t in the org. 

[Brawndo]

On 5/6/2025 at 6:53 PM, dudacek said:

I looked at it as two connected trades: Adams traded down to acquire an extra 2nd specifically with the intent of flipping it for Malenstyn

It’s too bad that Andrew Mangiapane never played against Seth Appert, they probably would have offered that 2nd rather then a 3rd for him. 

On 5/8/2025 at 12:28 PM, Pimlach said:

You are an opposing GM, would you want #9 or Rosen?  

Nine Overall

 

As others have mentioned Rosen really does not have any value around the league 

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, SabreFinn said:

I don't think Rosen is the same value as the 9th pick. I just named him as one of the assets I think should be used to upgrade the team before we use our top pick. I don't dislike Rosen, I just can't see him get a roster spot in Buffalo, even If he is a top player in AHL. That puts him on top of my list of players to trade. If a trade can't be done without our 9th. Then trade the pick, I'm not against improving the team, just want whoever completes next trade to try other options first.

I understand your position, but if Rosen can't make Buffalo which team can he make? If you're looking to try to entice a team to give up their top 5 pick or are looking for a proven player you're not getting it anywhere close to done offering up Rosen. 

You might be able to get a conversation going with Utah if you started by offering up Byram but even that might not get it done. You'd likely have to give more. 

I don't want higher picks or any down the road stuff though. I only want deals that make the roster better now. Right away. 

[Drag0nDan]

On 5/8/2025 at 10:54 AM, DarthEbriate said:

They could easily have afforded Mitts and McLeod’s salary this season if Byram isn’t on the team. If they wanted to stay lean, then don’t sign Lafferty. McLeod still would’ve been the 3C/PK specialist of the bunch.

edit: It would have meant Joker was a top-4 D man all year though or another guy would’ve need to be brought in aside from Gilbert. 

No i mean... i don't think they make that trade with Mitts under contract.  

[LGR4GM]

On 5/10/2025 at 8:05 PM, PerreaultForever said:

I understand your position, but if Rosen can't make Buffalo which team can he make? If you're looking to try to entice a team to give up their top 5 pick or are looking for a proven player you're not getting it anywhere close to done offering up Rosen. 

You might be able to get a conversation going with Utah if you started by offering up Byram but even that might not get it done. You'd likely have to give more. 

I don't want higher picks or any down the road stuff though. I only want deals that make the roster better now. Right away. 

You want a good NHL piece in return,  9th OA, Rosen, and Samuelsson is actually an attractive offer. Rosen can't make Buffalo because we have better Rosens. You find a team (islanders maybe) that's going to do a little rebuild. You offer them 3 pieces for one and maybe that's enticing. Teams without Buffalo's prospect pool that are aging, will find a spot for Rosen. He's capable of being a 3rd line guy. 

Or you package 9th, Rosen, Byram, and go after someone bigger. Rosen is just another chip and teams will look at his AHL production and think "maybe he's a middle 6 guy outside of Buffalo" 

[Carmel Corn]

On 5/10/2025 at 8:05 PM, PerreaultForever said:

I understand your position, but if Rosen can't make Buffalo which team can he make? If you're looking to try to entice a team to give up their top 5 pick or are looking for a proven player you're not getting it anywhere close to done offering up Rosen. 

You might be able to get a conversation going with Utah if you started by offering up Byram but even that might not get it done. You'd likely have to give more. 

I don't want higher picks or any down the road stuff though. I only want deals that make the roster better now. Right away. 

Rosen was a poor pick to begin with, but to your question he simply isn’t the right piece that Buffalo needs right now.  Other teams may need a young skilled forward who might bring some offense.  The Sabres already have such pieces, but lack other ones that I hope we can trade for.

[LGR4GM]

10 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

Rosen was a poor pick to begin with, but to your question he simply isn’t the right piece that Buffalo needs right now.  Other teams may need a young skilled forward who might bring some offense.  The Sabres already have such pieces, but lack other ones that I hope we can trade for.

What is Sebastian Cossa. Aka, who Buffalo should have taken. 

[Palm Trees And Taxes]

On 5/5/2025 at 8:03 PM, inkman said:

What exactly do you think the Sabres can get for 9th overall in a weak draft class?  

Fair point, thinking for me is pairing that pick with something else to get the piece or pieces we need (EX: Byrum, Power, etc)

Edited 3 hours ago by Palm Trees And Taxes

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, Palm Trees And Taxes said:

Fair point, thinking for me is pairing that pick with something else to get the piece or pieces we need (EX: Byrum, Power, etc)

The draft is not weak at the top. It's more that it's not deep.