That Aud Smell Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 <Draft bump> Thought experiment out there has the Bills trading back in order to select 2 WR’s. I really like that idea. https://billswire.usatoday.com/lists/mock-draft-2024-nfl-buffalo-bills-keon-coleman-ladd-mcconkey/# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 22 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: <Draft bump> Thought experiment out there has the Bills trading back in order to select 2 WR’s. I really like that idea. https://billswire.usatoday.com/lists/mock-draft-2024-nfl-buffalo-bills-keon-coleman-ladd-mcconkey/# I really need people to stop mocking McConkey to the Bills. I can’t put my finger on it but when everyone starts telling me something, I want the opposite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 44 minutes ago, inkman said: I really need people to stop mocking McConkey to the Bills. I can’t put my finger on it but when everyone starts telling me something, I want the opposite. You dont like McConkey? He's going to be a great player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 7 hours ago, Buffalonill said: You dont like McConkey? He's going to be a great player Case in point. And no, nobody knows who is going to be a great player. You can offer an opinion but it’s sure as heck not a certainty. They built an entire industry on the discourse about things like draft picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 7 hours ago, Buffalonill said: You dont like McConkey? He's going to be a great player Sith Buffalonill dealing with absolutes. Am I right @DarthEbriate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 (edited) Beane mentioned they do not have first round grades on 28 players this year. Thursday should be interesting Edited April 22 by Brawndo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 20 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Beane mentioned they do not have first round grades on 28 players this year. Thursday should be interesting I don’t think they stay put. I think they’re more likely to move up to ~20 than anything else. But I also think there’s a good chance they bail on Round 1 and grab two WR’s in a draft lousy with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 23 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Beane mentioned they do not have first round grades on 28 players this year. Thursday should be interesting Prepping the fanbase for trading out of the first round. Dammit Beane, I took Friday off for this *****! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Allen Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 9 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: <Draft bump> Thought experiment out there has the Bills trading back in order to select 2 WR’s. I really like that idea. https://billswire.usatoday.com/lists/mock-draft-2024-nfl-buffalo-bills-keon-coleman-ladd-mcconkey/# I would be pretty surprised if Coleman doesn’t go until the 4th and will be absolutely pumped if we got him there. I like what McConkey can do but not sure if he’s the type of wr we Need. I think we need more of a Thomas/Mitchell kind of guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 26 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said: I would be pretty surprised if Coleman doesn’t go until the 4th and will be absolutely pumped if we got him there. I like what McConkey can do but not sure if he’s the type of wr we Need. I think we need more of a Thomas/Mitchell kind of guy. McConkey is exactly what they don’t need. Same skill set as Shakir and Samuels. I wouldn’t hate if they drafted him, just not in the 1st round as they already have rostered players who do the exact same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 10 minutes ago, inkman said: McConkey is exactly what they don’t need. Same skill set as Shakir and Samuels. I wouldn’t hate if they drafted him, just not in the 1st round as they already have rostered players who do the exact same thing. Smurfs 2.0. Let's do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 50 minutes ago, inkman said: McConkey is exactly what they don’t need. Same skill set as Shakir and Samuels. I wouldn’t hate if they drafted him, just not in the 1st round as they already have rostered players who do the exact same thing. Samuels is a slot receiver and McConkey is not. And I don't mean, he sorta isn't, I mean flat out McConkey was not used much at all in the slot. At Georgia there simply is never a reason too. James Cook took those snaps, Bowers takes those snaps, other less talented WR take those snaps (Lovett). Ladd was primarily used on the outside, I think I saw something like 76% of his routes were outside routes. That all said, I would trade up for Brian Thomas Jr. because while McConkey has great speed and hands, I think Thomas has very good speed and hands but also has that extra height and weight. You are trading McConkey's YAC and excellent route running for Thomas Jr size/speed combo. Indianapolis would be a great trade up target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 22 Author Report Share Posted April 22 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: That all said, I would trade up for Brian Thomas Jr. because while McConkey has great speed and hands, I think Thomas has very good speed and hands but also has that extra height and weight. You are trading McConkey's YAC and excellent route running for Thomas Jr size/speed combo. Indianapolis would be a great trade up target. The online fancy stats people saddle Brian Thomas Jr. with several "red flags" -- something about how alarmingly low his "yards per route run" were. Apparently, this metric, YPRR, is a strong predictor of success in the NFL. And, physical beast though he is, Thomas's isn't good. I think I heard Joe DiBiase on WGR talking about Thomas -- something about "does he evolve into a DK Metcalf comparable" -- who apparently also had similar concerns with his fancy stats while also having physical freak measurables -- "or does he flop like several other physical freak prospects whose advanced stats were not good coming out of college?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg17 Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said: The online fancy stats people saddle Brian Thomas Jr. with several "red flags" -- something about how alarmingly low his "yards per route run" were. Apparently, this metric, YPRR, is a strong predictor of success in the NFL. And, physical beast though he is, Thomas's isn't good. I think I heard Joe DiBiase on WGR talking about Thomas -- something about "does he evolve into a DK Metcalf comparable" -- who apparently also had similar concerns with his fancy stats while also having physical freak measurables -- "or does he flop like several other physical freak prospects whose advanced stats were not good coming out of college?" https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-150-prospects-in-the-2024-nfl-draft-class He sounds pretty good. #17 by this guy’s ranking. Thomas is a big, explosive wideout with incredible production, including an FBS-best 17 touchdown catches this past season. He lines up outside and in the slot. He easily defeats press coverage with his quickness. He is very sudden in his release and can find another gear once the ball is up in the air. He is very loose and fluid as a route runner. He has snap at the top of the route and doesn't waste steps. He has a very large catch radius because of his frame, leaping ability and ball skills. After the catch, he has some wiggle to make defenders miss and also boasts home run speed. Overall, Thomas is a big-play machine and has the upside to develop into a No. 1 receiver for his drafting team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 9 minutes ago, bg17 said: https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-150-prospects-in-the-2024-nfl-draft-class He sounds pretty good. #17 by this guy’s ranking. Thomas is a big, explosive wideout with incredible production, including an FBS-best 17 touchdown catches this past season. He lines up outside and in the slot. He easily defeats press coverage with his quickness. He is very sudden in his release and can find another gear once the ball is up in the air. He is very loose and fluid as a route runner. He has snap at the top of the route and doesn't waste steps. He has a very large catch radius because of his frame, leaping ability and ball skills. After the catch, he has some wiggle to make defenders miss and also boasts home run speed. Overall, Thomas is a big-play machine and has the upside to develop into a No. 1 receiver for his drafting team. Zay Jones was a super productive college WR. He’s developed into a very nice WR3. 🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: The online fancy stats people saddle Brian Thomas Jr. with several "red flags" -- something about how alarmingly low his "yards per route run" were. Apparently, this metric, YPRR, is a strong predictor of success in the NFL. And, physical beast though he is, Thomas's isn't good. I think I heard Joe DiBiase on WGR talking about Thomas -- something about "does he evolve into a DK Metcalf comparable" -- who apparently also had similar concerns with his fancy stats while also having physical freak measurables -- "or does he flop like several other physical freak prospects whose advanced stats were not good coming out of college?" I mean, I love Ladd McConkey so I have no issue with this. There's about 3 guys in this window I am good with. McConkey is the safest probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 Please make it stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Night Train Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 Just trusting Beane to find help. Doesn't hit all of them but covers himself well in FA prior to draft week. I have the Ourlads scout guide. I'll ✔️ all the Bills picks as they fall. I can post their views after. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 23 Author Report Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, inkman said: Please make it stop. Your antipathy for Ladd ThaHonky to Buffalo only assures us that (1) the Chiefs will instead grab him at the end of Round 1 and (2) ThaHonky will post a 9-85-1 line against the Bills in next year's postseason. 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: Hmm. So maybe available at 28? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 10 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Your antipathy for Ladd ThaHonky to Buffalo only assures us that (1) the Chiefs will instead grab him at the end of Round 1 and (2) ThaHonky will post a 9-85-1 line against the Bills in next year's postseason. Hmm. So maybe available at 28? GTFOH with ThaHonky! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 Small hands combined with a repeated history of drop issues are a cause for concern. Injuries. 30 catches 478 2 TD's. Slot. That's part of the Ourlads report on Ladd McConkey. I'm guessing more size, wide experience and better hands are part of the Bills WR desires. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre The Cup Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 Troy Franklin is the guy we want at 28. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 41 minutes ago, Night Train said: Small hands combined with a repeated history of drop issues are a cause for concern. Injuries. 30 catches 478 2 TD's. Slot. That's part of the Ourlads report on Ladd McConkey. I'm guessing more size, wide experience and better hands are part of the Bills WR desires. We'll see. I'm sorry, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 Finally someone of like mind 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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