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Official: 2018 2nd Round Pick Matthias Samuelsson Signs his ELC with the Sabres

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5 hours ago, MakeSabresGrr8Again said:

You most likely misread my post.....the point was that they are sons of of former players  and those are examples of players (the sons) that are not "mediocre" It really wasn't intended to be a "better than their father" comment and only an example of sons that aren't mediocre.

Thank you for your civil response and attempt to verify the information conveyed in my post, it is appreciated more than you know.

After I posted I felt there was no way I didn’t misread it, but I figured just in case you didn’t I would make for a good discussion on whether son or father was better so I left it. 

When you think you’re dealing with a person thinks Tie Domi is better than Max you have to step carefully because there’s clearly something wrong. Glad we sorted it out. 

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FWIW, his college coach (Andy Murray -- a former NHL head coach) was on WGR this morning and spoke very highly of him.  Murray made it sound like Matthias is absolutely an NHL player.

Also, I hadn't connected the dots, but Dawson DePietro was a college teammate of Matthias'.  Murray said DDP was one of the fastest players in college hockey and a good scorer, and has a reasonable chance at making the NHL.

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On 3/25/2020 at 7:21 PM, dudacek said:

Other than a handful of you who actually scout video on these guys, is the generally negative feeling toward Samuelsson mostly about his profile and the unfashionability of big, stay-at-home defencemen these days?

Is there no longer room for that type in the league? Cernak from Tampa seems to be doing pretty well. It certainly describes the current Chara. Brandon Carlo is effective. David Savard? Josh Manson?

The kid is a physical specimen, smart and he captained USDP team and the WJC team. Why do we think he's going to be Brad Miller?

He sounds just like Jake McCabe. That's his ceiling. We'd be better off without McCabe playing regular minutes, so I'm not very excited about this Botterill special. 

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1 hour ago, Thorny said:

He sounds just like Jake McCabe. That's his ceiling. We'd be better off without McCabe playing regular minutes, so I'm not very excited about this Botterill special. 

He is bigger and stronger than McCabe.  He is pretty huge, McCabe is average size.

Not that it means he will be better.

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14 hours ago, Curt said:

He is bigger and stronger than McCabe.  He is pretty huge, McCabe is average size.

Not that it means he will be better.

I think he’s got poise to his game that Jake doesn’t as well.

The question (again) is will that carry over at the faster pace of the NHL?

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Finally got around to listening to the WGR interview with his college coach, former NHL coach Andy MUrray.

For what it’s worth, Murray says Matthias was ready to play pro last summer, and will compete for a NHL job this fall. Played him in all situations, up to 27  minutes a night and said you are happy when he has the puck on his stick because you know he will make the right decision.

Western Michigan was a pretty good team this year, ranking in the lower reaches of the top 20.

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/03-27-western-michigan-hockey-head-coach-andy-murray-on-mattias-samuelsson

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I think this new defenseman is going to work out fine. In face, I was also thinking about our agreement. About me staying on another season. And if this defenseman does work out I want to transfer a D to another team this year.

You mean this summer before the harvest?

Sure, there's more than enough D-men.

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2 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:

I think this new defenseman is going to work out fine. In face, I was also thinking about our agreement. About me staying on another season. And if this defenseman does work out I want to transfer a D to another team this year.

You mean this summer before the harvest?

Sure, there's more than enough D-men.

Jason Lars - "It's only one more season...you can join the playoffs academy NEXT year"

Jack Eichwalker - "Ya, that's what you said last year"

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The game described by those who know and have seen Samuelsson is something that would make our defense corps unbelievably well-rounded, especially if Borgen can also stick around. 

Puck wizard, offensive prowess: Dahlin
Puck mover: Montour
Two-way, all-situations guy: Jokiharju
Nasty, bone-crushing checks: Risto
The Carlo/Cernak: Samuelsson
Additional edge and defensive-focused play: Borgen
NHL quality depth that fills some of these roles, not as well as the idealization of the players listed: Miller, McCabe 

Obv not all of these guys will be here one or two years from now but still. 

This is my rosy view. My nightmare scenario:
This contract is signed as one last-gasp attempt by Jason to show the Pegulas that HE is why the team is finally going to take a step it hasn't taken yet - all of Samuelsson, Cozens, Tage, Mitts are shoe-horned into a roster spot too high for their abilities, while one last botched D->forward trade underwhelms playing alongside one last Frolik-quality depth acquistion, and we are left with yet again horrible depth and a bunch of traumatized, lost prospects whose next two years will look similar to Casey/Tage's last two 
 

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4 hours ago, Thorny said:

Jason Lars - "It's only one more season...you can join the playoffs academy NEXT year"

Jack Eichwalker - "Ya, that's what you said last year"

It's pretty obvious that Uncle Jason Lars and Aunt RaKru are going to have to be fired in order to get ***** the farm and exploring the Stanley Cup Alliance...

3 hours ago, Randall Flagg said:

This is my rosy view. My nightmare scenario:
This contract is signed as one last-gasp attempt by Jason to show the Pegulas that HE is why the team is finally going to take a step it hasn't taken yet - all of Samuelsson, Cozens, Tage, Mitts are shoe-horned into a roster spot too high for their abilities, while one last botched D->forward trade underwhelms playing alongside one last Frolik-quality depth acquistion, and we are left with yet again horrible depth and a bunch of traumatized, lost prospects whose next two years will look similar to Casey/Tage's last two 
 

I like the rosy view better.

The ... nightmare... feels a little to close to home.

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20 hours ago, dudacek said:

Finally got around to listening to the WGR interview with his college coach, former NHL coach Andy MUrray.

For what it’s worth, Murray says Matthias was ready to play pro last summer, and will compete for a NHL job this fall. Played him in all situations, up to 27  minutes a night and said you are happy when he has the puck on his stick because you know he will make the right decision.

Western Michigan was a pretty good team this year, ranking in the lower reaches of the top 20.

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/03-27-western-michigan-hockey-head-coach-andy-murray-on-mattias-samuelsson

I've never doubted his hockey sense. I doubt his skill level overall. Again if he's a pk guy and 3rd pairing defender, I'll be happy. 

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56 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I've never doubted his hockey sense. I doubt his skill level overall. Again if he's a pk guy and 3rd pairing defender, I'll be happy. 

Pretty sure that if Botterill is still GM in 3 years that it's a given he'll be 3rd pairing & getting time on the PK.  😉 The catch is, will he be good at either role?  Likely yes, but definitely not a given.

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