pi2000 Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 I blame Botterill for this. Moving Bogo and Moulson should have been his number 1 priority last summer... many of us said that.... but nooooooo, he wanted to give them a clean slate and judge them only on their performance this season. What a huge . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 He shouldn't be in his rookie year. Maybe not top pairing, but top 4 - Ekblad was, I don't see why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 I blame Botterill for this. Moving Bogo and Moulson should have been his number 1 priority last summer... many of us said that.... but nooooooo, he wanted to give them a clean slate and judge them only on their performance this season. What a huge ######. No market for either player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 No market for either player. Yup. No one was taking either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) No market for either player. Yup. No one was taking either of them. It was a challenge and he failed... sure nobody wants them, so you packaging them as part of a larger deal to a team that can eat their cap. If Datsyuk and Pronger contracts can get traded, then so can Moulson and Bogosian. Edited January 11, 2018 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 No market for either player. I don't buy this at all. We should have bribed Vegas to take him in the expansion draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Do you guys really think that Dhalin will be a top pairing guy as a rookie? I don't. He is a great player and will very likely be a star in the NHL, but not a top pairing guy from the outset. Although, he is likely to be drafted by a terrible team and will end up being a top pairing guy on that team. Mike Schopp, who has an afternoon sports talk show on WGR Radio in Buffalo (sorry if I'm over explaining, I don't know how much you remember about Buffalo sports radio) -- Schopp, a man I like to listen to and love to hate -- has sometimes proposed that the Stanley Cup champion should draft first. Stop rewarding terribleness. It is a shame to see guys like Eichel and McDavid get banished to hockey outposts. Can you imagine McDavid on Chicago and Eichel on Tampa? Edited January 11, 2018 by PASabreFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Mike Schopp, who has an afternoon sports talk show on WGR Radio in Buffalo (sorry if I'm over explaining, I don't know how much you remember about Buffalo sports radio) -- Schopp, a man I like to listen to and love to hate -- has sometimes proposed that the Stanley Cup champion should draft first. Stop rewarding terribleness. It is a shame to see guys like Eichel and McDavid get banished to hockey outposts. Can you imagine McDavid on Chicago and Eichel on Tampa? No, but without Eichel, I can imagine the Sabres breaking the NHL record for least points in a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Mike Schopp, who has an afternoon sports talk show on WGR Radio in Buffalo (sorry if I'm over explaining, I don't know how much you remember about Buffalo sports radio) -- Schopp, a man I like to listen to and love to hate -- has sometimes proposed that the Stanley Cup champion should draft first. Stop rewarding terribleness. It is a shame to see guys like Eichel and McDavid get banished to hockey outposts. Can you imagine McDavid on Chicago and Eichel on Tampa? Makes no sense from a parity standpoint though. You'd end up like baseball where most years there are only a handful of teams who content year in and year out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 It was a challenge and he failed... sure nobody wants them, so you packaging them as part of a larger deal to a team that can eat their cap. If Datsyuk and Pronger contracts can get traded, then so can Moulson and Bogosian. Arizona picked up those contracts because they were tanking and needed to get to the cap floor. There was no team setting up to tank this past offseason to trade two bad contracts. You need a dance partner. The dance ended when Matthews was drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ho-Chi-Sock Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Can they put him on LTIR through 2020? Special Assignment? He spends the remainder of his contract at a desk job in HR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Arizona picked up those contracts because they were tanking and needed to get to the cap floor. There was no team setting up to tank this past offseason to trade two bad contracts. You need a dance partner. The dance ended when Matthews was drafted.It was definitely possible though. We could have bribed Vegas with a prospect or draft picks and gotten them to take whomever we wanted in the expansion draft. If we had offered them Nylander (for example) we probably could have gotten them to take Moulson and Bogosian. Imagine how easy it would have been to afford Kane then? I'm sure if we offered them a prospect like Asplund or Pu we might have been able to at least unload one of them. Edited January 12, 2018 by Alkoholist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 It was definitely possible though. We could have bribed Vegas with a prospect or draft picks and gotten Vegas to take whomever we wanted in the expansion draft. If we had offered them Nylander (for example) we probably could have gotten them to take Moulson and Bogosian. Imagine how easy it would have been to afford Kane then? I'm sure if we offered them a prospect like Asplund or Pu we might have been able to at least unload one of them. It would appear that Vegas knew what they were doing with their roster. We never had a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I'd keep Risto - Scandella - McCabe if we are lucky we can add Dhalin. Dhalin - Scandella - Risto McCabe - Guhle We likely don’t get Dahlin, but Boqvist would be a nice addition to a right side that currently only has Ristolainen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Mike Schopp, who has an afternoon sports talk show on WGR Radio in Buffalo (sorry if I'm over explaining, I don't know how much you remember about Buffalo sports radio) -- Schopp, a man I like to listen to and love to hate -- has sometimes proposed that the Stanley Cup champion should draft first. Stop rewarding terribleness. It is a shame to see guys like Eichel and McDavid get banished to hockey outposts. Can you imagine McDavid on Chicago and Eichel on Tampa? They should get rid of the lottery. It encourages teams to tank because every spot they drop gives them a better % chance of winning the number 1 pick. Sans lottery, if the last place team is 20 points worse than the next best team, then you won't have teams trying to tank to improve their odds during the season... because they won't have any chance of getting the 1st pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 They should get rid of the lottery. It encourages teams to tank because every spot they drop gives them a better % chance of winning the number 1 pick. Sans lottery, if the last place team is 20 points worse than the next best team, then you won't have teams trying to tank to improve their odds during the season... because they won't have any chance of getting the 1st pick. Eric Lindros, Alexander Daigle, and Mario Lemieux disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNYSABRESMAN Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 This just in: Zach Bogosian offically changes his first name to Crystal. Now I'll post this to twitter and tag P. Hamilton and see if I can get blocked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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