bob_sauve28 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Good player, works hard, physical and seems like he has some offensive skills. He is a RFA if I'm not mistaken though. Im hoping he gets turned into a first round pick at the trade deadline. I like him, think he is a good player, but I do not want the Sabres to throw a big contract his way this off season, even if he starts lighting it up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 He's UFA after the season and at this rate of play he seems to be untraceable. I'm not worried about buffalo throwing big money at him. David Clarkson ruined that for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 He's UFA after the season and at this rate of play he seems to be untraceable. I'm not worried about buffalo throwing big money at him. David Clarkson ruined that for everyone. They should turn him into a spy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Good player, works hard, physical and seems like he has some offensive skills. He is a RFA if I'm not mistaken though. Im hoping he gets turned into a first round pick at the trade deadline. I like him, think he is a good player, but I do not want the Sabres to throw a big contract his way this off season, even if he starts lighting it up here. No. More. Draft picks. Period. You know what we should do? Every year we should take the 3 most valuable FA's we have and trade them for draft picks. That way every fecking year we are 3-5 years away from replacing the players we move. Yeah. #Tankforever Edited November 1, 2014 by weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 No. More. Draft picks. Period. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Thank you. Was hoping you'd do it so I didn't have to. And you'll appreciate the edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 By lighting it up I presume you mean production wise. With that said, given his other attributes you listed I see no reason to let him go. I agree he will not get Crosby money but a player with the above attributes is who some thought Foligno would be. If he can start producing why not 3yrs/2 mil per. This is about half of what he is currently making and the pay cut would help in a potential trade if he sucks. I think TM would have to explain to him why he is not a 4 mil player and besides Myers and Moulson/Ennis no Sabre is getting a good offer from other teams next year. Bottom line I like him but I also liked Hodgaon before he disappeared and Reinhart before he looked like a teenage pu$$y in the icecapades. These are both different topics but the point is lets just see how he does under Nolan and then hopefully under a coach who doesn't wish for effort but demands and instills it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 By lighting it up I presume you mean production wise. With that said, given his other attributes you listed I see no reason to let him go. I agree he will not get Crosby money but a player with the above attributes is who some thought Foligno would be. If he can start producing why not 3yrs/2 mil per. This is about half of what he is currently making and the pay cut would help in a potential trade if he sucks. I think TM would have to explain to him why he is not a 4 mil player and besides Myers and Moulson/Ennis no Sabre is getting a good offer from other teams next year. No freaking way Stewart signs a contract for 2 M. He'll get at least a 4M deal somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Why Because for every Jeff Finger, there is a Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 But do you think he is a 4 mil player? Honestly I don't think we have seen it in his short time here but if he can take on Lucic type guys and put up 20 goals then OK. Give him some money. Now to argue myself. I don't think any of our players will reach their potential this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 No freaking way Stewart signs a contract for 2 M. He'll get at least a 4M deal somewhere. Yes, he gets at least 4 million. But if we sign him I think he does the same dog act Myers, Stafford, Hodgson and Leino et al. Do after they get the big bucks. I'll take a first round pick for him. It doesn't mean we can't be competitive sooner than when the player picked is ready to play. Until we are ready to make a playoff run we stack up on first rounders. We can even cash them in for a hired gun in the future when we are ready to do damage in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 But do you think he is a 4 mil player? Honestly I don't think we have seen it in his short time here but if he can take on Lucic type guys and put up 20 goals then OK. Give him some money. Now to argue myself. I don't think any of our players will reach their potential this year. I don't, but some GM will. There are 30 men out there just itching to make stupid decisions this summer, and Stewart will be one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 But do you think he is a 4 mil player? Honestly I don't think we have seen it in his short time here but if he can take on Lucic type guys and put up 20 goals then OK. Give him some money. Now to argue myself. I don't think any of our players will reach their potential this year. Given all the fair-to-middling players that sign for 4M, yes I think he is a 4M player. He is what the market bears, Yes, he gets at least 4 million. But if we sign him I think he does the same dog act Myers, Stafford, Hodgson and Leino et al. Do after they get the big bucks. I'll take a first round pick for him. It doesn't mean we can't be competitive sooner than when the player picked is ready to play. Until we are ready to make a playoff run we stack up on first rounders. We can even cash them in for a hired gun in the future when we are ready to do damage in the playoffs. Yes, trading Stewart for a pick does in fact mean we can't be competitive sooner. What are you replacing him with after you've moved him? Probably a borderline guy. We need NHL players to be competitive. Every time we get rid of one for picks we delay the time to being competitive even further. Fine, you don't want him? Trade him for real, live actual NHL players instead of picks that may or may not work out 3-5 years after you've received them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Given all the fair-to-middling players that sign for 4M, yes I think he is a 4M player. He is what the market bears, Yes, trading Stewart for a pick does in fact mean we can't be competitive sooner. What are you replacing him with after you've moved him? Probably a borderline guy. We need NHL players to be competitive. Every time we get rid of one for picks we delay the time to being competitive even further. Fine, you don't want him? Trade him for real, live actual NHL players instead of picks that may or may not work out 3-5 years after you've received them. Even a seasoned prospect. But, as you aptly stated, no more picks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Even a seasoned prospect. But, as you aptly stated, no more picks! I'm dying for an honest to God hockey trade. Gimme another Roy for Ott, ffs. I blame you for that existing in my spoken word now, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Given all the fair-to-middling players that sign for 4M, yes I think he is a 4M player. He is what the market bears, Yes, trading Stewart for a pick does in fact mean we can't be competitive sooner. What are you replacing him with after you've moved him? Probably a borderline guy. We need NHL players to be competitive. Every time we get rid of one for picks we delay the time to being competitive even further. Fine, you don't want him? Trade him for real, live actual NHL players instead of picks that may or may not work out 3-5 years after you've received them. And we don't trade him and he signs somewhere else, how does that help us? The more draft picks the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) And we don't trade him and he signs somewhere else, how does that help us? I didn't say we should keep him and pray he signs. But I don't want anymore picks. The more draft picks the better #Tankforever Edited November 1, 2014 by weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 What's wrong with taking picks if that's the only thing you can get for a player you plan on letting walk? It's nice to say no more picks and all that jazz, but let's be real, that's what pending UFAs get it return as rentals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I hope they re-sign him. He went toe to toe with Lucic just because he could. More of that please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 What's wrong with taking picks if that's the only thing you can get for a player you plan on letting walk? It's nice to say no more picks and all that jazz, but let's be real, that's what pending UFAs get it return as rentals. If that is all you can get, well, you get what you get. I hope they re-sign him. He went toe to toe with Lucic just because he could. More of that please. If he is willing to re-sign, yes please more of this. Personally, even if the guy is a bit of a slacker, I want him on my team. He brings a dimension that none of our prospects have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Why Here is why (sorry for the format) Zbynek Michalek at Defenseman $4,000,000 Mark Giordano at Defenseman $4,000,000 Antti Niemi at Goaltender $4,000,000 Michael Grabner at Right Wing $4,000,000 Drew Stafford at Right Wing $4,000,000 Kevin Bieksa at Defenseman $4,000,000 Erik Cole at Left Wing $4,000,000 Victor Hedman at Defenseman $4,000,000 David Jones at Right Wing $4,000,000 Cory Schneider at Goaltender $4,000,000 Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau at Right Wing $4,000,000 Jiri Hudler at Center $4,000,000 Max Pacioretty at Left Wing $4,000,000 Cam Fowler at Defenseman $4,000,000 Oliver Ekman-Larsson at Defenseman $4,000,000 Patric Hornqvist at Right Wing $4,000,000 Bryan Bickell at Left Wing $4,000,000 Pascal Dupuis at Right Wing $4,000,000 Daniel Briere at Center $4,000,000 Dennis Seidenberg at Defenseman $4,000,000 Zach Bogosian at Defenseman $4,000,000 Christian Ehrhoff at Defenseman $4,000,000 Mark Fayne at Defenseman $4,000,000 Benoit Pouliot at Left Wing $4,000,000 Milan Michalek at Left Wing $4,000,000 Jussi Jokinen at Left Wing $4,000,000 Ales Hemsky at Right Wing $4,000,000 Mikhail Grabovski at Center $4,000,000 Dmitry Kulikov at Defenseman $4,000,000 197 John Carlson at Defenseman $3,966,667 198 Josh Gorges at Defenseman $3,900,000 Alexei Emelin at Defenseman $3,900,000 200 John-Michael Liles at Defenseman $3,875,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) They should turn him into a spy! Effing auto correct... Edit: I'm not changing it either! Call the CIA. Chris Stewart is untraceable. Edited November 1, 2014 by ubkev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 And we don't trade him and he signs somewhere else, how does that help us? The more draft picks the better Like others have said, when does it stop? How many more picks do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Like others have said, when does it stop? How many more picks do you want? All of them. I want the draft to be a 3 hour GMTM soliloquy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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