lalalalalaFontaine Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Status quo here in Sabreland until this team locates a true hockey owner... Legitimate sports franchises always start from the top down... Need to look no further than our Bills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themaze2332 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Status quo here in Sabreland until this team locates a true hockey owner... Legitimate sports franchises always start from the top down... Need to look no further than our Bills... You know, the Bills are trying. At least Chan Gailey dumps people who are ineffective. And, because of that, we have seen improvement. I thought of the Bills as a joke until the last three weeks...and why? Because Gailey fired ineffective people and moved an ineffective QB. Now I am watching games and when I am not, looking up scores. The Sabres need the same kind of coach. Lindy is all talk. Hooray...he FINALLY backed his words by sitting Rivet. Chan did his benching/firing/adjusting nearly immediately; Lindy, not so much. We give money to all of the wrong people because our organization is reactive instead of being proactive. And it is a true shame. I hope Miller decides to peace out to prove how awful our management is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Owners don't sell teams to appease fans, they do it to make a cash grab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 They pretty much announced two years ago they are willing to look at offers, without saying officially the team is for sale. Let's hope it all clicks, as in yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresGameNight Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Realistically, you aren't going to find another owner with enough money that wants to keep the team in Buffalo. Gollisano saved the franchise and for all anyone knows is the only person that can keep it here. The greater Buffalo-Niagara area is a bit short on Billionaires these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frisky Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Short memory anyone? Give Tommy G some credit. Almost certainly, if he had not purchased the team from the NHL, there would be no hockey team to complain about. I think it is awfully philanthropic of him to keep funding something he probably isn't that interested in. Don't you remember the lack of legitimate ownership groups that came forward last time? I believe the most promising one was the Mark Hamister group prior to Golisano. And, IIRC, his ultimate plan was to move the team. Also, I think if he wanted to make a crap load of cash, he could also have tried selling to Jim Balsille. So, all things considered, there isn't really anybody in the area who's rich enough to buy the team who's going to keep it in town. Down the road, there might not be any sports teams to complain about. You'll be stuck with minor league baseball, Niagara hockey, and local high school sports. The Bills probably more so than the Sabres at this point. LA is still looking hard for a team and have pubicly announced a while back that the Bills were one of their prime targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Short memory anyone? Give Tommy G some credit. Almost certainly, if he had not purchased the team from the NHL, there would be no hockey team to complain about. I think it is awfully philanthropic of him to keep funding something he probably isn't that interested in. Don't you remember the lack of legitimate ownership groups that came forward last time? I believe the most promising one was the Mark Hamister group prior to Golisano. And, IIRC, his ultimate plan was to move the team. Also, I think if he wanted to make a crap load of cash, he could also have tried selling to Jim Balsille. So, all things considered, there isn't really anybody in the area who's rich enough to buy the team who's going to keep it in town. Down the road, there might not be any sports teams to complain about. You'll be stuck with minor league baseball, Niagara hockey, and local high school sports. The Bills probably more so than the Sabres at this point. LA is still looking hard for a team and have pubicly announced a while back that the Bills were one of their prime targets. I don't think Hamister's plan was to move the team. He just didn't have financing in place. After he didn't get the team, he became petulant and moved the Destroyers. Your point on Golisano is well-taken. He saved this team, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I could be wrong, but the league will decide if a franchise moves, not an owner. The Sabres are staying in Buffalo. There are people interested; LQ has confirmed this. It's just a matter of OSP squeezing every last penny out of the deal, apparently. Golisano should be thanked for buying the team, but that doesn't get him a free pass on criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I could be wrong, but the league will decide if a franchise moves, not an owner. The Sabres are staying in Buffalo. There are people interested; LQ has confirmed this. It's just a matter of OSP squeezing every last penny out of the deal, apparently. Golisano should be thanked for buying the team, but that doesn't get him a free pass on criticism. Absolutely. But criticism and demands that he sell the team are different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I have no problem with Golisano. He doesn't touch the team and pays for them to be here. What more could you ask for from an owner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Absolutely. But criticism and demands that he sell the team are different things. I think demanding to sell the team is at one extreme end of the criticism spectrum. :) It's frustrating. Anyone who knows Golisano's story knows he has sack. Self made billionaire. Political maverick. I just wish he was tuned in more to the state of the team. I know he has it in him to shake things up. He could be a good owner. Somehow, the fans need to get his attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I think demanding to sell the team is at one extreme end of the criticism spectrum. :) It's frustrating. Anyone who knows Golisano's story knows he has sack. Self made billionaire. Political maverick. I just wish he was tuned in more to the state of the team. I know he has it in him to shake things up. He could be a good owner. Somehow, the fans need to get his attention. We could invite Monica Seles to a pre-game skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 They pretty much announced two years ago they are willing to look at offers, without saying officially the team is for sale. Let's hope it all clicks, as in yesterday. I could be wrong, but the league will decide if a franchise moves, not an owner. The Sabres are staying in Buffalo. There are people interested; LQ has confirmed this. It's just a matter of OSP squeezing every last penny out of the deal, apparently. Golisano should be thanked for buying the team, but that doesn't get him a free pass on criticism. I think demanding to sell the team is at one extreme end of the criticism spectrum. :) It's frustrating. Anyone who knows Golisano's story knows he has sack. Self made billionaire. Political maverick. I just wish he was tuned in more to the state of the team. I know he has it in him to shake things up. He could be a good owner. Somehow, the fans need to get his attention. It has been noted before, and you have re-confirmed it today. The person with the highest post count on this site is a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 We could invite Monica Seles to a pre-game skate. I find that to be a very weird relationship and of course I don't have any idea what their relationship is. Maybe it started on Facebook or Twiiter lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 We could invite Monica Seles to a pre-game skate. She was pretty good at placing her shots. Maybe she could teach Hecht how to avoid hitting the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I could be wrong, but the league will decide if a franchise moves, not an owner. The Sabres are staying in Buffalo. There are people interested; LQ has confirmed this. It's just a matter of OSP squeezing every last penny out of the deal, apparently. What's this based on? If someone called you up out of the blue and offered you $3500 for your lavender Prius, and book value was $8000, and you declined the offer, would you be "squeezing every last penny out of the deal?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I could be wrong, but the league will decide if a franchise moves, not an owner. The Sabres are staying in Buffalo. There are people interested; LQ has confirmed this. It's just a matter of OSP squeezing every last penny out of the deal, apparently. Golisano should be thanked for buying the team, but that doesn't get him a free pass on criticism. What's this based on? If someone called you up out of the blue and offered you $3500 for your lavender Prius, and book value was $8000, and you declined the offer, would you be "squeezing every last penny out of the deal?" I read somewhere the only deal they had was one that moved the Sabres out of Buffalo and TG said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 What's this based on? If someone called you up out of the blue and offered you $3500 for your lavender Prius, and book value was $8000, and you declined the offer, would you be "squeezing every last penny out of the deal?" If you can speculate that someone low-balled him, I can speculate that someone didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabtot Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Golisano saved this team...I have no problem with him. Ticket prices are resonable,he is making money. I think he leaves all hockey decisions to Larry Quinn. Quinn loves Darcy and Lindy, he lacks the balls to fire either one of them. They will have to quit to be gone. I think that if the team can't turn it around soon Lindy may step down on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 An NHL team is not the greatest investment going forward. Quinn and Co. may have gotten too greedy on this one. Bettman will be begging Balsille to own 8 teams by the time this is said and done. Contraction ain't just for expecting moms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotentPowerPlay22 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I could be wrong, but the league will decide if a franchise moves, not an owner. The Sabres are staying in Buffalo. There are people interested; LQ has confirmed this. It's just a matter of OSP squeezing every last penny out of the deal, apparently. Golisano should be thanked for buying the team, but that doesn't get him a free pass on criticism. Golisano does deserve praise for saving the team, but he also sees it as a business first. His primary motive is not to lose money. His secondary motive is to be competitive. His motivation to win the Stanley Cup takes a back seat to his primary motive. The owners that really are in it to win the Cup have a passion for the game. Golisano doesn't have it. If the Sabres make the playoffs each year and show a small profit then the owner is satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Golisano does deserve praise for saving the team, but he also sees it as a business first. His primary motive is not to lose money. His secondary motive is to be competitive. His motivation to win the Stanley Cup takes a back seat to his primary motive. The owners that really are in it to win the Cup have a passion for the game. Golisano doesn't have it. If the Sabres make the playoffs each year and show a small profit then the owner is satisfied. It IS a business! He didn't become a billionaire by ignoring the bottom line, and won't remain one if he does. I disagree with your ranking of his priorities. It seems the first priority is and always has been the preservation of one of the greatest and rarest assets the city of Buffalo has ever possessed. This would be the Seattle Sabres Space if he hadn't stepped in. Winning achieves the other goals. They have said before the team isn't profitable without a playoff series. He spends more than enough for the team to be successful, the problem is that DR spent the money on the wrong players and is now afraid to do something to correct his mistakes. Don't become too resentful of Golisano. I suspect that if there is a legitimate group (ie the one headed by Jim Kelly) involved in keeping the Bills in Buffalo, Golisano will be VERY heavily invested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 His stock price looks similar to the performance of his hockey team the past 5 years. PAYX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 His stock price looks similar to the performance of his hockey team the past 5 years. PAYX Have one of those charts for the price of tea in china? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Dance Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I have no problem with Golisano. He doesn't touch the team and pays for them to be here. What more could you ask for from an owner? A winning attitude and the right people under him to actually BE a Stanley Cup contender instead of just saying so. Hey, he bought the team and "saved" them from a fate worse than death. I'm grateful. Since then, what has the ownership group (LQ is a minority owner, too don't forget) brought us? A run to the conference finals where our lack of depth on defense cost us a trip to the finals? And since then? With the Sabres (as with all things Buffalo apparently), we tend to have long memories when it comes to accomplishments. We remember things as they were, not as they are. I mean, we still see the occasional post whining about losing Briere and Drury! Hey, they are GONE! Let's try to be a little more proactive and look at what we need to do next to succeed. Peter Karamanos (owner of the Hurricanes and ) has a great business rivalry with his fellow Detroiter, Mike Ilitch. Karamanos wanted nothing more than to be the owner of a Stanley Cup-winning NHL franchise, so he could be in the same class as his rival, Ilitch. Well, he went and did it. The Hurricanes wheeled and dealed and got the pieces they needed to make an honest run for the Cup. And they won it. (Of course, now the team is reaping the results of that as they are down in the standings again). But, they are now and forever Stanley Cup Champions and no one can take that away from them. Contrast that with Tommy G. I guess he is pleased that people still slap him on the back and thank him for "saving" the Sabres (well, when he is back in the area). But what real effort have we seen from the top down to really, truly make the Sabres a "contender". Not much. If left to their own devices, the current management team will keep floundering around until the Arena is half-empty and then....well, Tommy will have to decide whether he wants to own a winner or just wants to cash out and go back to Florida. The owner's indifference has a way of running downhill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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