SwampD Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Sorry to open up old wounds, but if Drury and Briere really wanted to be here, like they said, they would be here. 3...2...1...enter Tom Webster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Come on dude they never even offered Briere a contract his entire last season in Buffalo. If the stories are to be believed (and I believe the framework anyway), Darcy offered Drury a deal but the contract never actually appeared from on high for him to sign. How can they sign a deal for less if no one gives them paper and pen? LET IT GO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 What have Drury and Briere done since they left? Any time I hear Briere's name it's usually in regards to Philly trying to move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Come on dude they never even offered Briere a contract his entire last season in Buffalo. If the stories are to be believed (and I believe the framework anyway), Darcy offered Drury a deal but the contract never actually appeared from on high for him to sign. How can they sign a deal for less if no one gives them paper and pen?LET IT GO. Believe me, I really have let it go. Just reading that made me think of that whole situation. I was one that really wasn't sad or mad that those two left. I just found it interesting that most people's response was to blame the Sabres and not the players themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 3...2...1...enter Tom Webster. It's difficult to compare the situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Sorry to open up old wounds, but if Drury and Briere really wanted to be here, like they said, they would be here.3...2...1...enter Tom Webster. Since you asked, I have said all along that both players offered to play for "hometown discounts." Briere and Drury can't be blamed for the fact that the organization didn't understand that $5 and $5.3 were less then they would eventually receive elsewhere. That being said, I have moved and once again only respond when the truth, at least the version of the truth I choose to believe, needs to be restated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Sorry to open up old wounds, but if Drury and Briere really wanted to be here, like they said, they would be here.3...2...1...enter Tom Webster. I disagree. Detroit is a money-making machine. Zetterberg will earn $6 million as a 42 year old at the end of his deal. I will assume, when he's 38-39 and going down hill, Detroit will buy his contract out and he'll get all the remaining money in a buy-out. That's what i heard from TSN the other night watching a game on the NHL network. Rich clubs, like NYR, Toronto, Wings, make so much money, they can sign players to long term deals and then buy them out, and that player is happy because he still earns the $72 million and the team saves under the salary cap. Buffalo is in no shape to ever buy anybody out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I disagree. Detroit is a money-making machine. Zetterberg will earn $6 million as a 42 year old at the end of his deal. I will assume, when he's 38-39 and going down hill, Detroit will buy his contract out and he'll get all the remaining money in a buy-out. That's what i heard from TSN the other night watching a game on the NHL network. Rich clubs, like NYR, Toronto, Wings, make so much money, they can sign players to long term deals and then buy them out, and that player is happy because he still earns the $72 million and the team saves under the salary cap. Buffalo is in no shape to ever buy anybody out. While there is no doubt that front loading contracts allow for rich clubs to keep the cap hit down, there have been numerous articles pointing out that the actual cap savings at the end of the contract is minimal and Detroit could end up with over $5 million in dead cap space at the end of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlecap Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Another controversial departure was that of Lafontaine. As far as I know, he wanted to stay but the Sabres brass took a hardline on his repeated concussions and failed to offer a contract. Fans were furious he left. So he went to the Rangers, where he ended his career shortly after that because of concussions. It seemed to me that Briere wanted to stay. Looking at Briere, I'm not saying his groin is a chronic problem, but I wonder about Briere's health and if that factored into the Sabres not offering him a contract.. Now Drury listened to his good friend Grier, who said the Sabres organization doesn't have the (financial) commitment it takes and he went to the Rangers along with a bumper crop of free agents that summer. I don't think he ever intended to re-sign with the Sabs, with his opportunity for a big payday and a high-profile team, where he feels he belongs. So what we have are two cases: one of a supremely talented player but damaged goods and the other, a mercenary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Another controversial departure was that of Lafontaine. As far as I know, he wanted to stay but the Sabres brass took a hardline on his repeated concussions and failed to offer a contract. Fans were furious he left. So he went to the Rangers, where he ended his career shortly after that because of concussions. It seemed to me that Briere wanted to stay. Looking at Briere, I'm not saying his groin is a chronic problem, but I wonder about Briere's health and if that factored into the Sabres not offering him a contract.. Now Drury listened to his good friend Grier, who said the Sabres organization doesn't have the (financial) commitment it takes and he went to the Rangers along with a bumper crop of free agents that summer. I don't think he ever intended to re-sign with the Sabs, with his opportunity for a big payday and a high-profile team, where he feels he belongs. So what we have are two cases: one of a supremely talented player but damaged goods and the other, a mercenary. 3...2...1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 What have Drury and Briere done since they left? Any time I hear Briere's name it's usually in regards to Philly trying to move him. I have no idea why this topic of Drury and Briere keeps coming up. Those days are over. Have either one of them won the Stanley Cup since they left the Sabres? No. I doubt they ever will either, in spite of the fact that Drury already has a Cup ring from Colorado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 IMO there is an obvious difference in the reputations of each franchise. Detroit is a first-class organization that puts money into scouting and development, and treats their players fairly and takes care of them WRT contracts, and is constantly building teams to WIN THE CUP. Not to compete, not make the playoffs and hope, they build to win. Buffalo, OTOH, has been fighting a negative rep (right or wrong) as a frugal team who lacked the financial commitment to build a Cup winner and underestimated the FA market a couple years in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 IMO there is an obvious difference in the reputations of each franchise. Detroit is a first-class organization that puts money into scouting and development, and treats their players fairly and takes care of them WRT contracts, and is constantly building teams to WIN THE CUP. Not to compete, not make the playoffs and hope, they build to win. Buffalo, OTOH, has been fighting a negative rep (right or wrong) as a frugal team who lacked the financial commitment to build a Cup winner and underestimated the FA market a couple years in a row. Isn't it odd that "first-class organization" usually is accompanied by championships. New England is now a "first-class organization" after 40 years of insignificance. Anyone remember when San Francisco was the class of the NFL. Now look at them. Detroit has been doing a great for a long time now. Back in the 70's and 80's they were a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 While there is no doubt that front loading contracts allow for rich clubs to keep the cap hit down, there have been numerous articles pointing out that the actual cap savings at the end of the contract is minimal and Detroit could end up with over $5 million in dead cap space at the end of the deal. Actually, no one has a clue how the end of that deal will effect the cap since the league will most likely be under a new CBA by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Isn't it odd that "first-class organization" usually is accompanied by championships. New England is now a "first-class organization" after 40 years of insignificance. Anyone remember when San Francisco was the class of the NFL. Now look at them. Detroit has been doing a great for a long time now. Back in the 70's and 80's they were a joke. But is it the championships that lead people to believe they are a first-class organization, or are the championships the result of doing things the right way - scouting, development, keeping their players happy, good coaches, good FO talent, etc.? FWIW, I don't consider the P*ts as a first-class org. Too many douchebags and too much bullschitt to earn any moniker that includes the word "class" (unless the term is low- or no-class, or even classless). And the 49ers fell apart after their scumbag owner got into trouble with the law (riverboat casinos and other lawsuits) and had to turn over the team to the Yorks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stenbaro Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Some things never change..Had to clean off the screen from laughing and drinking pepsi at the same time as reading this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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