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Chalk it up to a beaten and down trodden fan base grasping for answers. When this team gets good, and I think they someday will, more fans will be back and the community will change again and again. My opinion, the SabreSpace regulars are hockey diehard fans as much as Sabres fans, that why we stick it out. When they get good, more old fans and hopefully a bunch of new fans will be here, and different opinions will be everywhere.

There are a lot of posters here that I learn things from, to many to name them all right now, but @Brawndo, @dudacek, and @LGR4GM have not been named yet and they provide a lot of useful information. Shout out to them. Probably due to my advanced age, but I can relate to @PerreaultForeverand @JohnC, even though they sometimes are at different ends of the discussion. @PASabreFan brings great humor, and some thought provoking comments. I used to say a Contrarian viewpoint but he doesn’t like that. Certainly a unique viewpoint and communication style. I agree a lot with @Thorny (as long as I don’t pick on Eichel too much) and @Taro T. I don’t care for posting lies, “what ifs” that can be damaging to people, and historical rewrites - I will address these. I try to bring some humor, some history, some knowledge of the game. I don’t think it’s a secret that I can’t get behind Pegula because I don’t think we are lucky just to have a team. In 12 years that is what he has produced. I enjoyed the Buffalo Bisons circa 1966-69 way more than I have any of the Pegula years, maybe it is youth versus age but those guys were fun. I think the Sabres are the most abused market in any sport in North America. If I piss anyone off I am probably not trying to.

When you hire an employee that lacks the experience typically associated with a job, and you let them work for several years they become experienced. Ok, sure. I guess that is the point in all this double talk. You still hired an inexperienced person from day one. You took that chance. You suffer the consequences of baptism by fire that the employee will go through. You also suffer the damage to organization that could result internally and as viewed from the outside. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say The Pegula’s hired an inexperienced person to run hockey operations when they picked Adams. We have discussed Adams resume enough, it was not nearly strong enough. He was hired because he is smart, they knew him and liked him, and he would be loyal to their plan at that time. I think it is reasonable to say that Pegula has no clue who to hire to run his hockey operations. Putting his wife in charge when his cronies from Pittsburgh and Penn State failed was a mistake. LaFontaine, Murray, Boterill, Adams - all were stretches. They are all “experienced” now though. Ok. Maybe Adams will turn out great since he being afforded so much time to get it right? That is what we have to cling too.

Please stop making things up. You clearly know nothing about his workouts and training habits. If you did you might not be throwing out these kinds of ideas. He has not fallen of the cliff either, he is having an injury riddled season on a team that is collectively having a bad season. Look at stats on similar top goal scorers and find one that has not had dips in production over the years. If you find any, the chances are they were lucky with injuries and played on great teams that had plenty of good players to pick up the slack.

I get it. I was giving you some of your “Pa Vibe” back. Sure he is an NHL head coach, as much as Housley was, and more so than Ralph. To me, an “NHL Head Coach” must have some level of success to get hired and rehired. So if a team hires Housley, or Rolston, or Ralph again, I would still question that they hired an actual NHL head coach. Now, Terry has yet to hire an experienced GM. Even the FO in upstart Seattle would not hire JBot as a GM, he is an AGM still. Smart guy, hard worker, still learning the craft. I would argue that Adams should work for Karmonos when looking at their prior credentials. I was happy he was brought in and suspect he will leave as soon as a better opportunity arises Adam’s might have been the least qualified GM hiring in a long time. He seems to have done ok to fortify the scouting/ analytics/ drafting side. His trades are a mixed bag, in part because he let players go that wanted out and had no leverage (Eichel, Reinhart, Montour, Risto). His ability to acquire veteran help has been poor. His attention to goaltending is atrocious. His ability to conduct a coaching search? Well, he didn’t really do one when he made DG his choice. So, is he an NHL GM? Yes in title, yes in term, but his resume has holes and if he was fired today I do not see him landing a GM position anywhere in the NHL for quite awhile. Anyone seen Terry Murray lately?

You must attain success at that level. Has he?

You don’t even need experience to do this. You need accountability to met your goals and commitments, you need at every level.

After reading the thread and watching the replays I can only repeat what I’ve been saying for awhile. I feel so bad for the fans and especially, the young kids. The Sabres could not show up for Kid Day. Again. Another home game dud. Terry, your in town to bask in the Bills glory. Are you there? Listen Terry, watch and listen ….is there anybody out there?

I’ve said this before. I have seen gambling ruin marriages and kill families. Stop promoting it. I’m no prud but why is it necessary? Let the gamblers go to the web and find what they need.

Well I only saw the last 8:32 so I’ll refrain from comment but what I saw was good effort with no finish. Junk goalies tend to beat us. The story of the game must be that two lunch bucket guys score on Sabres turnovers and the Sabres big guns not answering.

Because Tampa got possession, you known the icing rule?

Ugh Tage you had that loose puck and missed it. Dam

Weak call on Bennie. fak

Hello Teammates, Punch checking in at 8 mins in 3rd. Let’s get a PPG. Muscle Weight

On a cot.

The comment about Boterill not wanting to trade ROR came from Rivet and Peters in the recent thread here that highlighted one of episodes. That is where I believe I heard it.

1975? What took you so long? You miss a lot a facts about goaltending that season and about the early Sabres history with 3 goalies Punch carried 3 goalies in the Sabres first season (Crozier, Daley, Dryden), and again in for portions of 74-75 when there were problems with Croziers health and he had a great team to support In 1974-75 they went with Crozier, backed by Bromley. Crozier got sick again, he had illness in his history. He played Bromley for much the season. Farr was a minor league player, call up for limited action. Bromley played ok but he was not the guy Punch was going to ride into the playoffs. The team looked great and Punch knew goaltending wins playoffs. Punch finally found a trade he liked, trading for Desjardins from the Islanders, who owned his NHL rights when Michigan of the WHA folded. Desjardins finished the year for Buffalo, and Crozier got a bit healthier and played a few playoff games. Bromley was essentially done once Desjardins showed up. He played one game the next season and went to the WHA. None of this has anything to do with, or is related in any way to the current Sabres situation. Just wanted to set the record straight.

Is sarcastic Taro much like that bawdy George.

ROR was speaking out of frustration of another losing season in a poorly run organization. To my knowledge he didn’t force the trade, he just said what he felt at the time. It is known that Boterill did not want to move him. Terry told Boterill to get the trade done before ROR’s contract bonus kicked in. St Louis dumped the troubled and inconsistent Berglund and his bad contract, the worn out Sobotka, their 3rd best rated prospect at the time (Tage), and their #1.

@PASabreFan has a big cap hit but he is a generational mascot prospect that should unseat Sabretooth in the next few years.

Hockey players drinking, smoking, and partying all night is the stuff of legend and it still goes on today. Usually more on the road. The Eichel/Kane/Reinhart crew were party animals, especially on the road. Lehner had his own private drinking issues. Bogo and ROR partied a lot That crew is gone and replaced by choir boys in comparison. What we have today is a bunch of young kids playing video games and hanging out, competing with each other Thompson stays home with his family and has for years. Tuch, the same now. Dahlin/Mitts and the younger gang like to play and have fun but are basically choir boys in comparison to what they could be doing. The issue with losing at home is DISTRACTION and mental weakness. Sure the home arena environment can suck at times, and that puts pressure on - that is something they need to turn around and savor. Do they want the love from the fans that the Bills get? Earn it by winning at home. Make every home game Muscle Weight. Be pissed to lose at home. NEVER lose 2 in a row at home. The coach needs to stomp on their azzes to get them focused and ready. There is no reason they play better on the road than at home unless it takes them away from comfort zone distractions at home. The often used word “accountability” - players to each other and their coach, coach to FO/GM, GM to Terry, Terry to the fans. We don’t have it. The Blues owner directed his GM to fire a popular Cup winning coach because he feared missing the playoffs two years in a row, which they still might do, but at least he will learn if the next guy in line can do it. Imagine the numbness fans in Buffalo feel after 12-13 years.

The Levi discussion - keep him as the #2 versus send him to Rochester, is another in a long line of stupidity regarding the Sabres FO. Sure, he looked good last year in his NHL stint. He looked better than the other 2 at that time. But the huge mistake was stating you are “all in on playoffs” and not bringing in an NHL Vet. What other GM would pin his hopes on the 3 goalies they had? Adam’s is dam lucky that UPL is maturing as an NHL player. Levi should be in Rochester. He doesn’t play now, and that is not whats best for him. He needs to play more.

I don’t get trade Greenway talk? We trade him and we create a hole. Could be he is one of the players other teams would want.