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Well they like Simmons in Toronto but no matter. Yes, that was their Staal argument, not mine. Foligno is a Foligno.

UPL was pretty good, but I still think if their plan is to play him as one of our 2 goalies next year it's a mistake. Refs definitely seemed to favour the Rangers. Some real BS calls when it mattered. Decent effort, kind of the same. Cozens made that early gaff but then seemed to turn it up for the rest of the game. Shows character to me. I like that. Also liked Borgen.

and he was 100% right.

Right. paying Taylor Hall was a much better decision. 🙂

It is a little like that but I wouldn't be bringing him in for huge point numbers but for the character and leadership that the young guys can see first hand and learn from. In 3 years or so he's done and Cozens or whoever takes over.

Which is exactly why I'd try to land Nick Foligno. He's a leader, he has local ties, and he can be that guy to teach work ethic and team spirit etc. for the next 3-5 years and then one of the kids takes over (maybe Cozens). Sam is definitely not captain material.

but you know with this team, we'd get the drug addict version.

imo Foligno is exactly what this team needs. So I'm curious, assuming a trade for Jack is made who's your new captain?

Don't think you get all four but yes, Landeskog would be another of the good FAs you can use the saved money on. Agreed.

It was during the draft, not the trade thread. I remember several people predicting he would be a bust. But it doesn't matter. The other part, see above.

Keep in mind there is a part B to this trade. You get 2 rookie contracts and you can dump that Eichel money on maybe a Nick Foligno as a new captain or some other good free agent. maybe two.

Eichel's obviously more talented, but the real question should be which one would win you the hockey game? That's a far trickier argument. In the case of the modern Sabres the question might also be who was/is the more valuable hockey player Eichel or ROR?

Not as talented as Eichel but better leaders and thus we won more games with them.

Really don't see how they could be nothings. A bunch of people here scoffed at Lafreniere and he looked pretty good against us yesterday and he's only beginning. These guys are going to be very good hockey players.

What about Turcotte & Byfield for Eichel? or Byfield Turcotte and a pick or two (perhaps conditional)?

true, but it'll be hard to escape the burden of current history if the season shifts to "is Jack happy' or "what's wrong with Jack" or "Jack Eichel trade rumours" and maybe it's the right moment to avoid that possibility before the no trade kicks in and while we reset and rebuild with a youthful group .

hey new guy. Don't let them silence you. Take a look here and make some suggestions. https://www.sabrespace.com/community/topic/29305-the-jack-eichel-trade-rumor-and-speculation-thread-sorry/

Already said, you just don't want to hear it.

Yup. Goalie is the starting point no matter what you do with Eichel or without.

Which is my point and why I believe we would be stronger in trading him. Too much focus on Jack and on the past years. Inescapable and all the talk next year if things don't go great. Better to wipe the slate clean at this point and build fresh with the young group we have plus what we get.

Actually it is solved, it's just that people don't follow the solutions. They simply don't listen, just like the covidiots.

There's truth to that, and you'd think so, but remember these are hockey players. They're not often the brightest lights and they spend their entire lives in team oriented groups and locker rooms and a lot of them are used to being "led". Do not underestimate the power of strong team leadership. Said it before and will always believe it. History would have been different if we'd named ROR captain instead of holding it for Eichel.

I think it happened at a Tim's. 🙂

No, but expecting him to be the answer for everything is part of the cause.

Having Reinhart taking the draw with the goalie pulled doesn't exactly scream genius coaching but whatever, face offs don't matter I'm told. So, two teams trying to play basically the same way. They're just better than us. For those people in the other thread saying the Sabres are a mid level team maybe this will convince you. Rangers are a mid level team. We are down below that. We were never in it. Thompson needs to sit again. All his bad habits are taking over again. Guy just doesn't get it.