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Glad to see the Canadian judicial system is as screwed up as ours. http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2016/07/11/sabres-oreilly-acquitted-of-all-charges-in-ontario-accident-case/

Oh come on. Don't play dumb. Here, it's been quoted many times in this thread: Call it what you want: demands, selection criteria, wish list, etc. It doesn't matter, once he hits August 16th, he's in the driver's seat. He'll have all the power over where he goes and why. Believe what? That his agent has repeatedly said Vesey wants to hit free agency?

I think I agree. Or, he at least knows where he wants to play. His list of demands could also be smokescreen to make it look like there will be much contemplation in where he finally settles down. And for the record, I doubt it's Buffalo. He would've signed already.

I was originally in the let him talk to other teams camp. Now, I'm not so sure. I think the idea only shows our impatience. We want a decision now - no matter what. I don't think we need a quick decision though and it's probably not in the Sabres best interest. I would hate for him to commit to another team and have that team start making decisions knowing he's in the fold. Aug 16th is over a month away and a lot of roster changes may occur during this period. What if CHI or PIT get impatient and trade for a top-6 forward next week? You'd be able to cross them off the list then.

I agree with this. Strictly speaking, I don't see this quote any different than how it was before.

Good to hear the Upper Tanker is getting some recognition around here. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=upper+tanker&utm_source=search-action

Good to hear Jack will be there to continue the coddling.

Yes, money does that. If it wasn't for his money and high profile, I'm sure he would be sitting in jail by this point. Doesn't mean the cops can't sniff around looking for problems and likely do when dealing with people of color.

I bring it up because it's likely the truth, no matter how much we want to think otherwise. In the eyes of the law, to think that blacks are held to a similar standard as whites it's just laughable.

I hate to bring race into this, but he's definitely under the microscope being black in a white dominated sport. Still could be guilty of these accusations though.

I just consulted the How to Coddled Your NHL Prospect handbook. Page 39 says Development Camp attendance is generally frowned upon.

An awesome addition is what I really meant. While we don't really need players, just as we didn't need players during the tanks, I think one is needed if we realistically want a good playoff run. As it is now, we'll likely be battling for a playoff spot, which is still great news.

Hold that thought. Gotta run to the store to pick up some Huggies for Timmy.

There's also a misconception that if we place a teenager on our roster, they'll likely end up like Grigorenko or Zadorov. And even so, there's still no evidence their careers were detrimentally affected by this either. They could've sucked no matter what. If Guhle is ready, he's ready. If not, then he's not. And besides, Guhle or no Guhle, we still need Fowler or Barrie.

I agree with the juniors notion. There's likely going to be diminishing returns with him going back for a 4th year and he may develop more in a sheltered role in the NHL. I don't know. Tough choice.

What he is doing is circumventing the spirit of the NHL draft. It's almost making it look like being drafted is a punishment. Why shouldn't players just be allowed to pick their teams. The excuse of him doing "what he's allowed to do" is a clear case of concrete thinking, especially when he specifically set out to circumvent the draft. If you can look past the "rules", what he is doing is wrong.

I see a lot of "he's following the bylaws of the CBA" or "he's exercising his rights according to the CBA", etc. But the truth is, I can do a lot of horrible, low-class, sleazy things and still be well within my rights according to the US Constitution. Just because someone can do something doesn't mean they should do something, far from it.

This a great plan. Let him give you his 2 favorite teams. Ones that he would definitely sign with if traded to them. Then offer both teams his rights. Ask for a conditional 1st if he signs with them and nothing if he doesn't. Someone will pony up.

I don't know the story of Adam Oates. Did he hit free agency as a result of refusing to sign with the team who drafted him? Did he have an arm's length list of demands for teams looking to sign him? Edit: at least from reading Wiki, looks likes a completely different situation. He wasn't drafted, but was a true FA. And the place he signed was likely motivated by money. $1.1 million 4 year contract in 1985 was likely a lot of money for a rookie back then.

What about time on the PP unit? Anyone think there's a shot in hell CHI or PIT places him on their PP?

Posturing? Just like he did with Nashville? Anyways, can anyone think of another player who pulled this same stunt who went on to become an excellent or great NHLer?

Sounds eerily similar to the Babcock situation, although we have even less details of that affair. If GMTM thinks he's been duped, he doesn't need to tell people about it. Doesn't reflect well on him.

Let him talk to teams now. Have him give you his top 2-3 teams he would definitely sign with. If not us, auction his rights to the top bidder of these 2-3 teams. Get a 2nd for him if you can.

You would think GMTM would know better by now.

Yes. And after it is filled out, it needs to be faxed to the NHL.