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We don't have to get into a debate, but I don't find the two items comparable. In one you are in control of your own destiny. Move more, eat less. It's as simple as that. Clearly there are those where it doesn't work, but that's for a good reason, and I don't think it's political. Get a job and work hard also means the system isn't stacked against you by taking all the money you are working so hard for and that you keep your job. It feels like you are trying to say that it's hard to get good food. I would disagree with that if that's the path you are going down.

It's not as simple as diet and exercise? Outside of uncontrollable genetic dispositions, why is it not about diet and exercise? How does any level of politics play into how people choose to live their lives and what they choose to eat?

Kodak had a fairly well established pharmaceutical production facility back in the day. Guess the equipment still works?

We've all been there. Teachers get the shaft, never gonna get an argument saying otherwise from me. ?

Someone please make StrongBad relevant again. StrongBad livestreaming video games would be something I would subscribe to.

Kids will be given the option to be in school or not. They will be able to learn remotely as well. Those who are comfortable sending their kids to school will do so. The teachers have to deal with this the most. They are the one's who will be exposed. They are the one's who may not have a choice in the matter. I know some teachers who have no intention of stepping foot in the school right now and some who are ready to go. One can only hope that some balance occurs such that those who don't want to go in can teach the remote learners while those who will work in the school will teach those in school. It's going to be a mess because the schools are that much more complicated than pretty much any other facet of society. Handling kids is difficult. I'm watching how our local youth baseball league is doing handling a subset of these kids. It's exactly as Liger posts above... they have no clue what they are supposed to do. The baseball league puts the onus on the parents to police their kids but they aren't doing it. It's chaos. Now, add more of them to the mix.

One might wonder why you don't go do just that. Also, your post has nothing to do with the Blue Jays in Buffalo.

I'm a fan of the name... etc. That's all.

Went the other night, got an OKAY shot...

I have not heard of them before either. Thanks.

Posting anecdotal photos and resorting to "you haven't spoken to all gun owners" will not further the discussion. Agree to disagree or find evidence to support your claims, if such evidence exists. I would imagine the information you both seek to back your claims lives within the same research, if it exists. And it is interesting as to why the kidnapping of American citizens by its own government on US ground is not getting more air play. Government officials pulling people off the streets in unmarked cars is usually something you read about in countries whose citizens have historically sought refugee status in the United States. Seems like soon, citizens of the United States might need to seek refugee status in other countries. This is no longer the country we think it is.

Just remember, the politicians in the house and senate had the opportunity to remove this person from power. They chose not to do so. I would keep that in mind when trusting your party affiliations. While the top may be the most noticeable part of the infection, the stuff underneath causes more damage. People want to still make excuses for their parties, but bottom line, they are failing all of us. In fact, I would argue that having Trump in his role distracts the American public from the sketchy actions of the rest of the government. Look at this blowhard over here, ignore all those people over there.

I think many people are missing the point here. It matters not whether you are comfortable or not with his firing. it's easy to say that the comments he made were inappropriate and the results adequate. The issue is based in the double-standard that someone who is gay was able to make similar comments (allegedly) and did not receive the same discipline. I also expect this to end up in the politics club in 3..2..

I mean... if you already had the answer, why'd you ask the question? ?

Let me say this. I say "you can feel this way" because if I don't say it, I presume I will be questioned for not acknowledging that fact. It's kind of a catch-22. As for my statement on history, whether it's 1 year, 400 years, or 900 years, the process by which one culture assimilates, dominates, etc. is my point. Call it war, call it something else. It doesn't matter really. They are words to describe the subjugation of one culture to another. One nation over another. One governmental system, over another. Would I be emotional? Yes. As I said, though, I don't let the thoughts of the ignorant define me. I recognize the socio-economic divisions, the white privilege. I absolutely love how passionate you are in this discussion. You are 100% correct that none of us can understand what you have seen. But I would also offer that just because a story has not been shared does not mean no story exists. Not everyone wants to share their stories, but that doesn't mean they don't have them. I didn't quote your comments on the other sports franchises, but I appreciate the input. I shook my head when I read the dismissive BS from the Blackhawks organization. Now, if you tell me the people of that group support the name, then fine, so be it. But until I see that, I think they are full of crap. Dude.. I so need to aerate before I worry about lawn rolling.. and I also need to make some quality beer.. I recall you were looking for an exchange. ? For what it's worth, my points about history are a commentary on humanity and nature itself. The higher level of thinking that humanity has developed doesn't keep it from adopting the natural order. IN fact, one might argue that our "intelligence" can find new and interesting way to justify the natural order... against everything that is natural. I'm not a fan of the way Native American people are/were treated. I'm not a fan of how all non-white people are treated. I don't have control over the past, I was not there. I don't have control over others, but I will speak out against them. I do have control over myself and my actions. This thread is not anywhere near the need to be locked. There are important discussions going on here that will drive awareness. The passion behind your points emphasizes the point that there is more than just the words being used to be considered and those of us who are interested should heed that when absorbing the information.

Sure, but I'd have to look at the teams they were playing on to see how it related to the overall offensive output. I'm high on Dahlin. I'm just saying that goals scored, by a defenseman, on a team that hasn't scored goals for years, is probably not the best stat to look at for how good the player is.. Put a parachute on Usain Bolt and he's not going to win many races, despite still being fast.

They lost a war. The government that now rules the land decides on what is "equal" in the society that it governs. This is also how it works. Those who live in the society choose to do so (unless forcefully compelled to stay in that society). The choice, assuming there is one, is to work to change that government, or leave. You don't have to like the options, but those are the options. No one on this forum makes those rules, they are made automatically by the situation that has unfolded. I am telling you that when your ancestors lost the war they did in fact lose their right to continue to exist as they had in the past without interference from another culture. No one has to like that statement, but that does not make it any less true. Wars eventually end up at someone's door step. Again, no one has to like it, but it happens. We may, at some point in the future, lose a war and our lives as Americans could be forever changed. All of us, who live in this country, could be ruled by a completely different government and that government could decide that white people are not equal. If that happens, everything I said would still apply. All of that aside, what I think you are missing the most is that no one is saying you have to like any of it. No one is saying that they like any of it. The entire reason for my post was to provide a viewpoint on the fact that these things happen. Humanity, and even nature, does not live in harmony all the time. Those that lose out on conflict are often impacted in ways far worse than subjugation. Saying that does not attempt to justify either of the outcomes but merely to speak objectively as to what those outcomes usually are. I would prefer a world that could understand and accept a natural balance. One that does not use its intelligence to destroy but to build. I like to think of that as a wonderful way to think but I also realize that how each of us defines "natural balance" is usually the instigator for conflict. I'm not sure anyone has said that the Redskins logo and name is acceptable. A wise person would say that if you wanted to operate a sports franchise that would reflect a particular section of society that you would consult the people of that society for how they would like to be depicted. As to the rest of your suggested affronts, for me, personally, I wouldn't give a damn what logo they put on the side of a helmet. If the intent of the depiction of the fat, disgusting, white guy, wearing a trucker hat was intended to provide offense to white people (of which I am) then I am not offended. I'm not defined by that. If someone is ignorant enough to assume that's who I am then I am intelligent enough to know that that person is not worth my time or energy. As I said, that's MY feeling. There may be others who would take offense to that depiction. That's their choice. For my educational benefit and understanding, where do you fall with regards to the Chicago Blackhawks, Atlanta Braves, and Cleveland Indians? The Blackhawks, as I understand it, are saying their name honors a native leader, Black Hawk, of the Illinois' Sac & Fox Nation. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/us/chicago-blackhawks-name-spt-trnd/index.html

The entire Sabres team should have more goals. The story of a player is not told solely in the stats they provide. You do have to account for the team they are on, the style of play the team adopts, etc.

There is always something filled with something, and something that is not. The Earth was a history of humanity expanding across the globe and at every point there was going to be one culture taking over another. One day humanity will spread from the Earth and it will begin taking over other worlds. The opposite could happen as well. Any society that seeks to expand its borders will engage in conflict. The Native American tribes battled for land as well. They sought to increase their own territories. They did so at the expense of their own cultures only because there were no other cultures to compete with at that time. As far as regions and hemispheres go, they are theoretical boundaries, the edges of which will be tested. At some point, the Native American people who populated these lands were not on these lands. They too traveled thousands of miles from outside their region, their hemisphere. Humanity is defined by its violence. Every civilization throughout history has engaged in some level of violence. Some level of killing those who are not us. Not every culture was as violent or as dominating, but they all did it. Those who do not win a conflict are at the whims of those who do. In some cases it is beneficial to let those who lost continue to live, but to do so in an altered state and in some cases it is the decision to end their existence. This is humanity. In a sick and twisted way it's not much different than the rest of nature. The weeds in your garden seek to expand their existence at the expense of your flowers. They may live in harmony, or the weeds may kill the flowers. The difference is that because we are "evolved" in our thinking that we somehow think we are also "evolved" in our actions. But deep down we are all still driven by the basic laws of nature. Consume. Sleep. Reproduce. Extend our DNA throughout time until the laws of nature decide that our DNA should no longer be extended. None of this is meant to justify anything that occurred, just to add context that conflict between entities results in impacts to both entities, although the one that loses usually is changed more than the one that wins. The one that loses doesn't usually like that it lost, but to a certain degree, if its around to know it lost, then that's better than the alternative.

So offense is only counted in goals? Now I'm ticked off. All this time, every person who ever talks about hockey and offensive stats always tells me goals, assists, and total points and they've been feeding me garbage this whole time. All you damn analytics people who kept going on and on about assists, secondary, primary... you know what? You are full of it. The mop has spoken. It's all gimmicks. It only matters if you score goals! He has simplified your lives. Hell, simplified the lives of all the officials out there at every level of the game who struggle to remember two players who touched the puck before a goal was scored. It doesn't matter any more. Praise be! I guess I will sit back and start watching the players who only score goals. I will focus on their offensive possession skills. They should be easy to pick out. Those players taking the puck and skating end to end to score their amazing goals. You know, the only one's who drive offense.

Have you stopped at Birdhouse Brewing in Honeoye? Highly recommend them. I'm also a fan of Seven STory in Bushnell's Basin. Went back to K2 last week, used to be a fan but they've devolved into alcoholic fruit juice essentially. Quite a few places going with that these days. Ugh. Love Abandon. I've known the head brewer since before he started brewing. Got laid off from his high tech job, decided to intern at CBs in HFL then went to brewing school, spent time in Germany, then some time at Ommegang (don't ask him about it.) Birdhouse also uses them to brew some larger runs. Good stuff.

Moved non Trump conversations to a new thread where an appropriate and needed discussion can occur.

I am starting this thread to move posts into that are straying away from the primary topic in other threads and to provide a place for beneficial conversation on the topic.

Well, talking to a friend yesterday. His mother was just exposed because the hair dresser that came into the complex two weeks ago tested negative, passed the screen upon entry and then tested positive two days later. Now they've had to quarantine and test everyone. So, it's believable. This indicates the problem with this virus. You are clear one day and not the next but you can still pass it on.

I can't pinpoint when I became a fan. Grew up in Buffalo, watched games when the were on the local broadcast stations but it was just sports and I would watch almost anything then. I wasn't a passionate hockey guy. We were a football household. It was mostly the Bills all the time. Every Sunday we sat down, made wings, watched football. Hockey was nice, if it was on. I slowly became a bigger hockey fan progressing towards 88-89. I had been to games, but I knew the big names around the league and most of the Sabres but I can't recall much of it today and I attribute that mostly to just not caring enough at the time. From about 88-89 I really became a fan... and then became a serious fan. If I lived in Buffalo I am sure I would have splurged for season tickets, but life wasn't going to go in that direction... I ended up in Rochester and that was that. I began playing hockey in college and it was then that hockey truly dominated my life. Too many exciting moments.. 1999 is the most frustrating.. to be that close. 2006 playoffs the next.. The team needs to return to being genuine.. it's that simple. The owners started with the whole passion for hockey but have migrated to "we know more than you, shut up" mentality. Fix it and the team... ?