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I don't feel like counting on my fingers, but somehow Eichel has a plus minus 16 better than Reinhart

Not sure, but I think they do since Eichel's plus/minus is so different from Reinharts, I've been attributing much of that to these sort of situations, since they play mostly together.

These are the even strength goals 2019 BUF #9 EICHEL(3), Wrist, Off. Zone, 37 ft. 9,23,68,19,55,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(4), Wrist, Off. Zone, 10 ft. 9,23,68,26,33,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(6), Backhand, Off. Zone, 5 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(5); #37 MITTELSTADT(4) 9,37,55,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(8), Wrist, Off. Zone, 9 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(7); #26 DAHLIN(11) 9,68,22,43,26,55 BUF #9 EICHEL(9), Wrist, Off. Zone, 32 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(8); #26 DAHLIN(12) 9,23,68,26,62,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(10), Wrist, Off. Zone, 34 ft.Assists: #68 OLOFSSON(7); #23 REINHART(9) 9,23,68,19,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(11), Slap, Off. Zone, 26 ft.Assist: #53 SKINNER(5) 9,53,43,6,10,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(12), Wrist, Neu. Zone, 96 ft. 9,28,13,19,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(13), Wrist, Off. Zone, 10 ft. 9,23,28,26,62,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(14), Wrist, Off. Zone, 31 ft.Assists: #26 DAHLIN(15); #4 BOGOSIAN(1) 9,23,13,4,26,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(15), Wrist, Off. Zone, 23 ft.Assist: #4 BOGOSIAN(2) 9,43,90,4,19,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(16), Wrist, Def. Zone, 144 ft.Assist: #55 RISTOLAINEN(8) 9,13,90,4,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(17), Wrist, Off. Zone, 10 ft.Assist: #55 RISTOLAINEN(9) 9,23,68,33,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(19), Wrist, Off. Zone, 14 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(13); #68 OLOFSSON(16) 9,23,68,55,62,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(20), Wrist, Neu. Zone, 96 ft.Assist: #28 GIRGENSONS(4) 9,28,22,10,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(21), Snap, Off. Zone, 27 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(14); #33 MILLER(5) 9,23,68,19,62,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(22), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 13 ft.Assists: #10 JOKIHARJU(7); #26 DAHLIN(16) 9,23,68,10,26,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(24), Wrist, Off. Zone, 31 ft.Assists: #68 OLOFSSON(18); #23 REINHART(16) 9,23,68,26,62,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(27), Wrist, Off. Zone, 30 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(21); #26 DAHLIN(21) 9,23,74,26,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(28), Wrist, Off. Zone, 10 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(23); #33 MILLER(6) 9,23,28,24,33,35 2018 BUF #9 EICHEL(1), Snap, Off. Zone, 28 ft. 9,10,23,6,55,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(3), Backhand, Off. Zone, 11 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(2); #43 SHEARY(1) 9,23,43,19,82,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(4), Wrist, Off. Zone, 37 ft.Assist: #29 POMINVILLE(5) 9,53,29,8,82,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(5), Wrist, Off. Zone, 35 ft.Assist: #55 RISTOLAINEN(9) 9,43,55,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(6), Slap, Off. Zone, 27 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(14); #53 SKINNER(9) 9,23,53,26,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(7), Wrist, Off. Zone, 20 ft.Assist: #23 REINHART(16) 9,23,53,24,82,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(8), Wrist, Off. Zone, 38 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(17); #53 SKINNER(10) 9,23,53,24,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(9), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 13 ft.Assists: #24 PILUT(1); #55 RISTOLAINEN(15) 9,23,53,24,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(11), Wrist, Off. Zone, 12 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(20); #26 DAHLIN(13) 9,23,53,26,55,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(13), Wrist, Off. Zone, 37 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(22); #26 DAHLIN(16) 9,23,53,26,45,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(14), Snap, Neu. Zone, 72 ft.Assists: #23 REINHART(24); #28 GIRGENSONS(5) 9,23,28,4,6,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(16), Wrist, Off. Zone, 34 ft.Assist: #55 RISTOLAINEN(24) 9,53,26,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(17), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 17 ft.Assists: #53 SKINNER(15); #55 RISTOLAINEN(27) 9,23,53,19,55,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(18), Wrist, Off. Zone, 35 ft.Assists: #26 DAHLIN(25); #53 SKINNER(17) 9,23,37,53,26,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(21), Wrist, Off. Zone, 23 ft.Assists: #29 POMINVILLE(12); #55 RISTOLAINEN(33) 9,53,29,19,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(23), Wrist, Off. Zone, 14 ft.Assist: #23 REINHART(40) 9,23,53,4,26,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(25), Wrist, Off. Zone, 21 ft. 9,23,53,6,55,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(26), Wrist, Off. Zone, 15 ft. 9,23,53,92,62,40 BUF #9 EICHEL(27), Wrist, Off. Zone, 17 ft.Assists: #41 OLOFSSON(1); #23 REINHART(42) 9,23,41,24,62,35 BUF #9 EICHEL(28), Wrist, Off. Zone, 10 ft.Assists: #41 OLOFSSON(2); #23 REINHART(43) 9,23,41,26,55,40 2019 BUF #23 REINHART(1), Wrist, Off. Zone, 44 ft.Assists: #19 MCCABE(1); #55 RISTOLAINEN(1) 9,23,68,19,55,40 BUF #23 REINHART(2), Backhand, Off. Zone, 14 ft. 23,37,13,26,55,40 BUF #23 REINHART(3), Slap, Off. Zone, 32 ft.Assists: #68 OLOFSSON(2); #9 EICHEL(6) 9,23,68,6,19,40 BUF #23 REINHART(4), Deflected, Off. Zone, 7 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(4); #9 EICHEL(7) 9,23,68,6,55,40 BUF #23 REINHART(6), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 14 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(6); #19 MCCABE(4) 9,23,68,19,55,35 BUF #23 REINHART(7), Wrist, Off. Zone, 29 ft.Assists: #10 JOKIHARJU(5); #68 OLOFSSON(5) 9,23,68,10,33,35 BUF #23 REINHART(8), Wrist, Off. Zone, 25 ft.Assists: #90 JOHANSSON(6); #62 MONTOUR(1) 23,13,90,26,62,40 BUF #23 REINHART(9), Wrist, Off. Zone, 16 ft.Assists: #68 OLOFSSON(10); #9 EICHEL(16) 9,23,68,6,55,40 BUF #23 REINHART(10), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 20 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(10); #68 OLOFSSON(12) 9,23,68,19,55,35 BUF #23 REINHART(11), Snap, Def. Zone, 166 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(11); #68 OLOFSSON(14) 9,23,68,90,55,62 BUF #23 REINHART(12), Wrist, Off. Zone, 8 ft.Assists: #68 OLOFSSON(15); #62 MONTOUR(7) 9,23,68,55,62,35 BUF #23 REINHART(13), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 14 ft.Assists: #4 BOGOSIAN(4); #68 OLOFSSON(19) 23,68,22,4,19,35 2018 BUF #23 REINHART(1), Deflected, Off. Zone, 7 ft.Assists: #19 MCCABE(4); #43 SHEARY(2) 17,23,43,8,19,40 BUF #23 REINHART(2), Snap, Off. Zone, 15 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(7); #26 DAHLIN(6) 9,23,53,21,26,55 BUF #23 REINHART(3), Snap, Off. Zone, 37 ft.Assist: #9 EICHEL(20) 9,17,23,19,55,40 BUF #23 REINHART(4), Wrist, Off. Zone, 22 ft.Assists: #9 EICHEL(24); #4 BOGOSIAN(5) 9,23,72,4,26,40 BUF #23 REINHART(5), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 18 ft.Assists: #9 EICHEL(25); #8 NELSON(4) 9,17,23,4,26,40 BUF #23 REINHART(7), Backhand, Off. Zone, 7 ft. 9,23,53,24,55,40 BUF #23 REINHART(8), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 11 ft.Assists: #82 BEAULIEU(3); #55 RISTOLAINEN(13) 9,23,53,55,82,35 BUF #23 REINHART(9), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 17 ft.Assists: #24 PILUT(4); #4 BOGOSIAN(6) 23,53,71,4,24,35 BUF #23 REINHART(10), Wrist, Off. Zone, 43 ft.Assists: #53 SKINNER(14); #26 DAHLIN(20) 9,23,53,26,55,35 BUF #23 REINHART(11), Backhand, Off. Zone, 10 ft.Assists: #43 SHEARY(12); #9 EICHEL(36) 9,23,43,6,19,35 BUF #23 REINHART(12), Wrist, Off. Zone, 25 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(26); #19 MCCABE(9) 9,23,53,19,55,40 BUF #23 REINHART(13), Slap, Off. Zone, 12 ft.Assist: #19 MCCABE(10) 9,23,43,6,19,35 BUF #23 REINHART(14), Snap, Off. Zone, 28 ft.Assists: #4 BOGOSIAN(12); #9 EICHEL(44) 9,23,53,4,19,40 BUF #23 REINHART(15), Wrist, Off. Zone, 29 ft.Assist: #71 RODRIGUES(14) 23,71,43,48,82,40 BUF #23 REINHART(16), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 15 ft.Assists: #48 HUNWICK(1); #43 SHEARY(16) 23,71,43,48,82,40 BUF #23 REINHART(17), Wrist, Def. Zone, 174 ft.Assist: #40 HUTTON(1) 9,17,23,19,55,40 BUF #23 REINHART(19), Wrist, Off. Zone, 22 ft.Assists: #37 MITTELSTADT(12); #62 MONTOUR(25) 17,23,37,26,62,40 BUF #23 REINHART(20), Snap, Neu. Zone, 74 ft.Assist: #26 DAHLIN(33) 23,53,71,26,62,35 BUF #23 REINHART(21), Wrist, Off. Zone, 17 ft.Assist: #9 EICHEL(52) 9,23,41,8,24,40 BUF #23 REINHART(22), Wrist, Off. Zone, 9 ft.Assist: #9 EICHEL(53) 9,23,41,26,55,35

I'll pull out Pominvvile stats if you make me

Think in your head what a Reinhart goal looks like, then think about what an Eichel goal looks like, ...now Olofsson... Pastrnak... Draisytl (sp?) ... Olofsson requires Eichel, Pastrnak requires 63, Reinhart goals rarely come from a play by Eichel, and Eichel goals rarely come from a play by Reinhart. I'm not saying Reinhart is bad, I'm saying they don't help each other much. I've said a number of times I think Rakru is trying to get Reinhart to move the puck better, good teams have lots of goals like Vesey's two games ago, Buffalo plays like they are counting the number of shots they get.

Eichel has spectacular numbers without Reinhart, but you must put the numbers in context to understand why it isn't that important. Let's say the Larsson's line is on the ice and Okposo gets tripped, it's Eichel that comes over the boards when the goaltender comes off the ice. At this point you have a fresh Eichel on a 6-5, against a tired defense who doesn't normally play very good defense (remember it's Larsson's line on the ice). There's a very good chance of Eichel scoring, but it doesn't happen because Reinhart isn't on the ice. Second situation where they don't play together. Up by 1, or better yet 2, with two minutes left. Eichel gets to play these situations, Reinhart isn't on team "'opponent's empty net." So I could give you Jack's numbers without Sam, but those numbers mean a whole lot less than what you would take them to mean, so I won't. That said, I don't think they play well together and Reinhart should be the 2C everyone craves.

Terrible decision by Vegas.

Warning: Advanced Skepticism Look at Tierney's first chart called called 'Offense'. The X axis is labeled Quality, the Y axis is results. For me, this ought to produce, more or less, a straight line from bottom left to top right, because there ought to be a relationship between the quality of your chances and your results. Since xGf/60 doesn't relate to your results, it means that it's not the xGf/60 that is creating the results, it's something else, which I'll come back to. Now let's look at the second chart called 'Defense'. It produces, more or less, a straight line. Demonstrating that xGf does relate to your results in the defensive zone. I'll save the discussion of how the first chart relates to the second chart for another day. I believe that 'something else' is what happens right before the distance and type of shot are taken. If the puck moves horizontal through the zone, it creates a higher scoring chance than if a player takes the shot himself. If you've been listening to my podcast, I've been talking about how poorly the Sabres move the puck through the offensive zone. In Buffalo, it's mostly Eichel that moves the puck horizontal. I grade Vegas highlights as a comparison, where the entire team moves the puck horizontal (Though no one passes the puck to Carrier, like no one in Buffalo passes the puck to Girgenssons). I believe this horizontal puck movement creates higher quality scoring chances. NHL.com forces me to listen to the opposing announcers half the time, and that's been interesting as how the different announcers talk about their team (and how they talk about the Sabres, but that's another discussion). The St Louis Blues are very good at moving the puck horizontal in the offensive zone. The announcers talked about this during the last Sabre St Louis game, talking about how the coach of St Louis preaches being patient in the offensive zone. That the Blues' players are taught not to take the low percentage shot, but to wait for the high percentage shot. For me, the Blues dominated both Sabre games, that Ullmark stole one because the St Louis back up goaltender was bad in the first meeting. Similarly, (it was a while ago now, so my details will be off) I think it was the Washington announcers were talking about how the Cap's coach preaches getting high percentage shots. Contrasting that is Buffalo, where Rob Ray, every game, talks about the need to 'Put pucks to the net', or as I translate to 'Take low quality shots'. I believe this belief system is rampant in the Buffalo organization. Kreuger gives me hope despite my lack of confidence. Reinhart is moving the puck more in the offensive zone than he had been. The power play goal of Risto passing to Reinhart last night (while not horizontal, gave Reinhart and open look) gives me hope that the Sabres are working on getting higher percentage shots.

I'm not sure whether pi is serious or not, but either way, I agree with him.

@inkman talks Amerks and soft defenseman. https://youtu.be/M1dNJLS1pGQ

Not sure why Lysowski thinks the lines are pointless, this means it'll be Eichel Reinhart Asplund, no?

https://youtu.be/I6wphP_LvgQ Me and @Taro T talk Dalton Smith and the need to do something. A couple podcasts (The audio only ones) won't be available for a few days here as I transition from a real server host to a box in my closet, knowing me, it could take months. I regret showing you my email page.

Nonsense, it was over after two periods

Sheary got the first 4 or 5 games with Eichel, then a few games near the end. this is a chart of even strength ice time. The left axis might be too tiny, at about 30% up is 5min/game. About 2/3 up is 10 min/game. the x axis is individual games, with the blues as wins, and the reds as losses

I think Woody is also Nik Ehlers in his spare time

They're on eliteprospects.com

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The national broadcast said that the streak was over.

How would you quantify that

If you check nhlnumbers.com, https://puckpedia.com/player/casey-mittelstadt or a few other places I guess, it looks like Mittelstadt makes 832.5g in Buffalo but 70g in Rochester. It looks like he gets his 92.5g bonus either way.

OMG, Barzel's penalty worst penalty ever, thank god we traded that pick to get Lehner.

Tage has a hockey brother, he's having a good year... I refuse to look up his name... OK, I cheated, Tyce.

He didn't do lines like that. He basically played 3 lines, and mixed defensive pairs. (Using my unreliable data) Asplund only played 4 minutes, I looked at Miller, and he had 5 different defensive partners

I think that if save percentage meant anything, drafting goaltenders would be easy

I can't account for all the on-ice goals, these are about 10 that Eichel and Reinhart aren't on the ice together. I haven't downloaded the Jersey game yet. My argument here is that plus/minus is highly usage based, the times that Eichel gets plusses when Reinhart doesn't isn't about how they play together, it's about usage. And this doesn't mean I like Reinhart playing with Eichel, I'm just saying using plus/minus as a tool doesn't help too much. BUF #9 EICHEL(6), Backhand, Off. Zone, 5 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(5); #37 MITTELSTADT(4) 9,37,55,40 This one is 3-3, which have much higher scoring rates than 5-5, as 3-3, not sure how plus/minus counts BUF #9 EICHEL(8), Wrist, Off. Zone, 9 ft.Assists: #55 RISTOLAINEN(7); #26 DAHLIN(11) 9,68,22,43,26,55 This one is a Buffalo empty net since there are 4 forwards and two defenseman on the ice. BUF #9 EICHEL(11), Slap, Off. Zone, 26 ft.Assist: #53 SKINNER(5) 9,53,43,6,10,35 This is a case where he was on the ice with Skinner and Sheary BUF #9 EICHEL(12), Wrist, Neu. Zone, 96 ft. 9,28,13,19,55,35 96 feet? Gotta be an opponent empty net BUF #9 EICHEL(15), Wrist, Off. Zone, 23 ft.Assist: #4 BOGOSIAN(2) 9,43,90,4,19,35 Eichel's 15th with Sheary and Johansson BUF #9 EICHEL(16), Wrist, Def. Zone, 144 ft.Assist: #55 RISTOLAINEN(8) 9,13,90,4,55,35 144 feet. BUF #68 OLOFSSON(7), Wrist, Off. Zone, 12 ft.Assists: #9 EICHEL(11); #23 REINHART(7)9,37,68,10,33,40 This one is interesting because Reinhart gets an assist, but the data says he was off the ice, curious how this factored into plus minus BUF #53 SKINNER(9), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 13 ft.Assists: #9 EICHEL(14); #43 SHEARY(4)9,53,43,19,55,35 On the ice with Skinner and Sheary. BUF #68 OLOFSSON(10), Wrist, Off. Zone, 41 ft.Assists: #9 EICHEL(18); #6 SCANDELLA(4)9,74,68,6,55,35 On the ice with Asplund goal against team: team 9,68,55,35 opponent 42,71,8,70 Eichel and Olofsson on the ice for a goal against, not sure 3-3 counts BUF #22 LARSSON(2), Wrist, Off. Zone, 9 ft.Assists: #53 SKINNER(4); #68 OLOFSSON(6)9,53,68,22,26,62 This is another Buffalo empty net, as there are 4 forwards on the ice.